• Refugees life lost after fatal stabbing in refugeecenter Germany
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[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49344303]funny how a few bans mean BDA is "pushing an agenda" yet [B]twenty three threads[/B] in the span of four weeks, only two of them NOT about refugees or muslims (even fake news in one occasion) is glossed over as a 'just guy posting important news'[/QUOTE] hey man he's not pushing an agenda by posting 21 threads about refugees, mostly in a negative light, he's just informing people of "local news" also don't forget he works at a refugee camp (something that he refuses to actually give any evidence for - i'll say this, if he can give any evidence he actually does then i'm in but slightly confused as to how someone so negative about refugees can volunteer unless there's a program that demands it. if there's no evidence, then as far as i'm concerned, it's a fucking shield and that's it)
What is wrong that he only posts that subject? No one is forcing you to read it.
Fairs fair, other people got banned for it so even if this guy doesn't actually have an agenda he gets banned for it too. This is facepunch, someone getting banned is always the right solution
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49338739][img]http://i.imgur.com/eb0x6a2.png[/img] Please find something else to post about. I don't understand how or why someone who clearly hates these people as much as you do managed to volunteer at a refugee center.[/QUOTE] The dude lives in the country and is obviously passionate about spreading word about the shit thats happening. Just because you want to be blinded to these issues doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to show them. Barely anyone else has been posting these sorts of threads, and I'm glad atleast one person has been doing it to help keep up with whats happening
[QUOTE=Araknid;49346358]The dude lives in the country and is obviously passionate about spreading word about the shit thats happening. Just because you want to be blinded to these issues doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to show them.[/QUOTE] Seriously. And he's always been pretty civil about too. Even more civil then the ones wanting him to dox himself.
[QUOTE=DuCT;49346372]Seriously. And he's always been pretty civil about too. Even more civil then the ones wanting him to dox himself.[/QUOTE] Careful about throwing that word around there guy. Asking someone to post a censored, but timestamped photo of their ID is hardly "doxxing". People do that shit all the time to actually prove who they are when they are working for actually controversial groups and posting controversial shit about said group. I'm pretty sure someone with a chip on their shoulder who works at a refugee camp could do the exact same thing. The fact he is steadfastly refusing to do so, but continues to use it as a basis for his anecdotes being 100% the only thing happening is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49346408]Careful about throwing that word around there guy. Asking someone to post a censored, but timestamped photo of their ID is hardly "doxxing". People do that shit all the time to actually prove who they are when they are working for actually controversial groups and posting controversial shit about said group. I'm pretty sure someone with a chip on their shoulder who works at a refugee camp could do the exact same thing. The fact he is steadfastly refusing to do so, but continues to use it as a basis for his anecdotes being 100% the only thing happening is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] What would the ID prove? Nothing. [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] IF he did post his ID you'd probably go "that doesn't prove anything" So why would he.
[QUOTE=opaali;49346532]What would the ID prove? Nothing. [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] IF he did post his ID you'd probably go "that doesn't prove anything" So why would he.[/QUOTE] Okay well we'll just continue to ignore him and call him a racist anyway in that case if we'd clearly just dismiss any attempts at proving he actually can substantiate his claims. At least trying is better than doing nothing and just insisting we believe that he's not lying about working with a group he clearly despises in some way.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49346601]Okay well we'll just continue to ignore him and call him a racist anyway in that case if we'd clearly just dismiss any attempts at proving he actually can substantiate his claims. At least trying is better than doing nothing and just insisting we believe that he's not lying about working with a group he clearly despises in some way.[/QUOTE] So noticing that the current refugee system doesn't work is racist? You're the reason why it's so fucked up at it is currently
[QUOTE=opaali;49346651]So noticing that the current refugee system doesn't work is racist? [B]You're the reason why it's so fucked up at it is currently[/B][/QUOTE] Cute. Our immigration systems generally work somewhat well. The sheer numbers are causing a strain because it's sudden, but it's not a modern apocalypse like half the sources I've seen Rumbler post want to make it out to be and our other resident racists insist it will be. The EU is not killing itself with this. Reactionary bullshit is however giving everyone a headache. The EU area has shite integration historically, it's really quite a xenophobic block of countries. These integration issues are hardly news, and posting about the minority of refugees that are fed up enough to get noisy about it is dishonest about the whole situation. I'm still incredibly sceptical of Rumbler because until about two or three weeks ago [I]that account had not posted in at least half a decade or something[/I]. And the first thing it does after waking up is post about the refugees "breaking shit all the time" non-stop both here and in the video section (posting pretty fucking /pol/tastic videos at that)? Please. Tell me that isn't a obvious agenda with a straight face.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49346601]Okay well we'll just continue to ignore him and call him a racist anyway in that case if we'd clearly just dismiss any attempts at proving he actually can substantiate his claims. At least trying is better than doing nothing and just insisting we believe that he's not lying about working with a group he clearly despises in some way.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter? You don't have to believe that he volunteers at all. His perspective and arguments do.
[QUOTE=omenology;49346689]It doesn't matter? You don't have to believe that he volunteers at all. His perspective and arguments do.[/QUOTE] Do what? Matter? Because unless he can substantiate his claim that he actually volunteers, his arguments aren't really that great as they all rely on his volunteering experiences (that he refuses to prove remember) happening. Christ, is it so much to actually ask for some proof of something? No doubt you guys saying "ITS NOT IMPORTANT!!!" would be screeching your balls off if this was a accusation of violence from a woman or some shit. You can't have it both ways. Ask for proof in one scenario and you should continue to do so in others otherwise you're probably a hypocritical fool.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49346710]Do what? Matter? Because unless he can substantiate his claim that he actually volunteers, his arguments aren't really that great as they all rely on his volunteering experiences (that he refuses to prove remember) happening. Christ, is it so much to actually ask for some proof of something? No doubt you guys saying "ITS NOT IMPORTANT!!!" would be screeching your balls off if this was a accusation of violence from a woman or some shit. You can't have it both ways. Ask for proof in one scenario and you should continue to do so in others otherwise you're probably a hypocritical fool.[/QUOTE] proof is important, however i've been going through his posts and most of his points actually hinge on sources he posts with his anecdotal reports taking a backseat. people seem more focused on getting him to prove he actually works at a refugee center whereas that isn't where the majority of his evidence for his arguments lies. the anecdotes seem to be more supplementary resources rather than primary.
Is this a thread about a fatal stabbing or a thread about rumbler? Because I feel like it has taken up 80% of this thread.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;49346802]Is this a thread about a fatal stabbing or a thread about rumbler? Because I feel like it has taken up 80% of this thread.[/QUOTE] Apparently rumbler is a racist and this stabbing never happened unless he posts his ID
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;49346802]Is this a thread about a fatal stabbing or a thread about rumbler? Because I feel like it has taken up 80% of this thread.[/QUOTE] They just use Rumbler as an excuse to not talk about what he posts.
[QUOTE=opaali;49346813]Apparently rumbler is a racist and this stabbing never happened unless he posts his ID[/QUOTE] Uhm nobody has called him a racist in this thread and nobody has claimed this stabbing never happened :v:
:snip: im dumb
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;49347071]Uhm nobody has called him a racist in this thread and nobody has claimed this stabbing never happened :v:[/QUOTE] Have you been in any other Rumbler thread?
[QUOTE=DuCT;49347094]Have you been in any other Rumbler thread?[/QUOTE] Yes I have, what is your point? I think it's safe to say that the only reason he is on this forum is to share anti-refugee views.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;49347105]Yes I have, what is your point? I think it's safe to say that the only reason he is on this forum is to share anti-refugee views.[/QUOTE] The point is people in those topics avoid what he actually posts and focus on the unnecessary things. All while he tries to get things back to the article he posted. And if you'd actually read his posts, you'd see that he's not anti-refugee, he just against they way this whole thing is being handled.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;49347105]Yes I have, what is your point? I think it's safe to say that the only reason he is on this forum is to share anti-refugee views.[/QUOTE] Sadly that is true. And sadly it's the majority over here that aren't actual refugees. They just came here because the smugglers told them they get nice house and lots of money. Of course we still pay them ~300€+ a month while they are here to realize it's shit to live in here until they leave on their own accord. [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] My favourite story is the one where Iraq refugees decided to go back to their families because they were "sick" and when they saw Helsinki they decided to stay instead
[QUOTE=opaali;49346651]So noticing that the current refugee system doesn't work is racist? You're the reason why it's so fucked up at it is currently[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=hexpunK;49346688]Cute. Our immigration systems generally work somewhat well. The sheer numbers are causing a strain because it's sudden, but it's not a modern apocalypse like half the sources I've seen Rumbler post want to make it out to be and our other [b]resident racists[/b] insist it will be. The EU is not killing itself with this. [b]Reactionary bullshit[/b] is however giving everyone a headache. The EU area has shite integration historically, it's really quite a [b]xenophobic block of countries[/b]. These integration issues are hardly news, and posting about the minority of refugees that are fed up enough to get noisy about it is dishonest about the whole situation. I'm still incredibly sceptical of Rumbler because until about two or three weeks ago [I]that account had not posted in at least half a decade or something[/I]. And the first thing it does after waking up is post about the refugees "breaking shit all the time" non-stop both here and in the video section (posting pretty fucking /pol/tastic videos at that)? Please. Tell me that isn't a obvious agenda with a straight face.[/QUOTE] Noticing it doesn't just make you racist, but a xenophobic racist spreading reactionary bullshit, to be precise.
I'm a racist. Because I don't like that we pour millions of € in to refugees. They complain once, and get better food. We spend 20 years eating this grub that's apparently not good. We complain, nothing happens. Refugees complain, they get better. [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] The fact that 2/3 of refugees we take in right now get "thrown out" is ridiculous (we can't throw them out because we dont have deal with Iraq about returns. We are taking in war criminals and can't send them back because dumb laws. I don't really want to live in a place with people like this: --picture removed--- [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=AntonioR;49347215]Noticing it doesn't just make you racist, but a xenophobic racist spreading reactionary bullshit, to be precise.[/QUOTE] I'm a xenophobe because I live in europe and rich Iraq people try to abuse our country? Neat! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting, Untagged Gore" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=opaali;49347392] GORE[/QUOTE] NSFW that please!!
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;49347593]NSFW that please!![/QUOTE] I cant. I want people to see.
[QUOTE=Araknid;49346358]The dude lives in the country and is obviously passionate about spreading word about the shit thats happening. Just because you want to be blinded to these issues doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to show them. Barely anyone else has been posting these sorts of threads, and I'm glad atleast one person has been doing it to help keep up with whats happening[/QUOTE] 110% agree. Is this the reason the OP is now banned? What happened?
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49347658]110% agree. Is this the reason the OP is now banned? What happened?[/QUOTE] Not really much apart from getting on a mod's nerves by continuing to argue dishonestly, probably.
[QUOTE=DuCT;49347188]And if you'd actually read his posts, you'd see that he's not anti-refugee, he just against they way this whole thing is being handled.[/QUOTE] No he's very clearly anti-refugee. It's painfully fucking obvious. I'm starting to feel like mugatu from zoolander when he points out derek only has one look. This is insane
This thread is fucking trash. Shutting it down.
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