• Ohio Teen Attempts Suicide In Front of Classmates
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[QUOTE=latin_geek;40479342]How do you fuck up shooting yourself in the head?[/QUOTE] There's actually a surprisingly high chance (it's not [I]that[/I] high, but it's surprisingly so for what it is) of surviving a bullet to the head, even at point blank.
[QUOTE=James xX;40479289]Maybe he did it because he couldn't do it at any other moment? It's as if you are grasping at straws here to prove that he did it to show off. In the article, it clearly shows that he was at the higher end of the class, and would obviously have known better. I don't appreciate much the insult. If you think my opinion is wrong, argue your point without resorting to insults.[/QUOTE] You really think he wasn't able to do it anywhere else? I'm fairly certain if you're going to shoot yourself in the head you can find the time to do it alone and secluded.
[QUOTE=Valdor;40479381]You really think he wasn't able to do it anywhere else? I'm fairly certain if you're going to shoot yourself in the head you can find the time to do it alone and secluded.[/QUOTE] Him not having another place to do it is as good a reason as him wanting to show off.
[quote] all-male Catholic school [/quote] Well, at least we know why he did it.
How can you even fathom the option that he didn't have any other place to do it?
[QUOTE=W00tbeer1;40479433]How can you even fathom the option that he didn't have any other place to do it?[/QUOTE] How can you, that he did it to show off?
Shooting yourself in front of your class is a desperate cry for help.
[QUOTE=James xX;40479405]Him not having another place to do it is as good a reason as him wanting to show off.[/QUOTE] No it's not, if anyone is grasping at straws it's you. The only reason to shoot yourself in front of your class is for attention (maybe not "look at me" attention but perhaps "look at what you've done" attention).
[QUOTE=James xX;40479451]How can you, that he did it to show off?[/QUOTE] There is a possibility that he did it to show off. We're not saying he did, but there's a chance. There is zero possibility that school was the only place he could commit suicide. He could do it in private at home. There was a reason he did it in the classroom. Because he had no other location is not why.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;40479454]Shooting yourself in front of your class is a desperate cry for help.[/QUOTE] Doesn't really give 'em much time to, though. If your suicide attempt is a cry for help, try something subsonic.
[QUOTE=Valdor;40479459]No it's not, if anyone is grasping at straws it's you. The only reason to shoot yourself in front of your class is for attention (maybe not "look at me" attention but perhaps "look at what you've done" attention).[/QUOTE] I would look into child psychology maybe, then come back to this thread when you have a point to stand on.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;40478921]"My life is shit, everything is shit, better show how shit it is to everyone else" Basically if someone goes and offs themselves infront of other people, they either do it cause attention for themselves or they don't care about the effects it'll present to over people. It's selfish.[/QUOTE] it's quite obvious you have no idea what goes through the mind of a suicidal person
[QUOTE=James xX;40479497]I would look into child psychology maybe, then come back to this thread when you have a point to stand on.[/QUOTE] Darn if only he was a year older then he would have had the mind of an adult. [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] But yeah it probably would have been too hard for him to find the time to go kill himself in a secluded place, I mean he probably had a lot of homework to do or something.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;40478792]What a selfish way to do it. He's likely gonna feel even worse when he comes around.[/QUOTE] All the more reason to try again.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;40478921]"My life is shit, everything is shit, better show how shit it is to everyone else" Basically if someone goes and offs themselves infront of other people, they either do it cause attention for themselves or they don't care about the effects it'll present to over people. [b]It's selfish.[/b][/QUOTE] Of course it's selfish. You're about to end your life for reasons that could be anything but most likely being bullied. You don't want to do it quietly you want to show these people what their actions have caused.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;40478797]there was an attempt why even go through the trouble to pull this kind of thing in front of your class[/QUOTE] Trying to make a point to those who bully him, a cry for help? There's lots of reasons
Awful lot of people in this thread calling a depressed person selfish.
This happened way too close to where I live. As in when I was in high school, their sports teams were ones we competed against. Heart goes out to the poor souls who had to witness it and to the person's family and friends.
to all the people who don't think it was a cry for 'attention': why did he do it in the middle of class?
I fucking hate it when people feel the need to jump in front of a train, delaying my journey to work. Selfish bastards.
[QUOTE=stupid10er;40480446]to all the people who don't think it was a cry for 'attention': why did he do it in the middle of class?[/QUOTE] plus, if it were a cry for attention you'd think he'd choose a method that could actually be interrupted.
[QUOTE=stupid10er;40480446]to all the people who don't think it was a cry for 'attention': why did he do it in the middle of class?[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpRbtq2e0S0[/url] Mental problems? Maybe he was dared to? Insurance scam? The possibilities are endless, the fact that you think that it was showing off and couldn't be anything other than showing off is just the sign of a closed mind.
[QUOTE=Valnar;40480132]Awful lot of people in this thread calling a depressed person selfish.[/QUOTE] Lots of people thinking a suicidally depressed person thinks rational. Chances are the reason why he did it publicly was originally born from some impulse to share his problems with someone. He's described as very involved in the school life, top student, boy scout, exactly like the type that would bottle up problems and shortcomings and bury them until it's become so much it overwhelms him and makes it even more difficult for him to share that burden so large and completely contrary to his image. In his final moment he might have seen a chance to finally let it all out, finally cave in under all that pressure and do what he wanted to do but couldn't: show everyone just how fucked up he's felt inside this entire time. Without him having to worry about how people might react or how revealing all those ugly truths might twist his image or even damage his social life. Whatever mental barrier stopped him from talking it out with somebody. When you're alone with your thoughts, it can be like waking up all alone in an empty black room where you're hearing monsters behind every one of your steps echoing from the walls. Where nothing is, everything could be; where reasonable solutions cannot be found, the brain will grasp at straws and fill gaps with even the flimsiest of horror scenarios cooked up by a sort of negative creativity arising from fear, anger, bitterness. We've all been in that room at some point, stagefright's like a short dose of it, but we've all left it with a reasonable solution or emotional support before it could dominate our lives and overshadow rational troubleshooting. He didn't.
Sounds like the tale in the Pearl Jam song, Jeremy.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;40479454]Shooting yourself in front of your class is a desperate cry for help.[/QUOTE]Not really, since I doubt he expected to survive
Botched suicides are becoming more common these days.
A ton of people have accused the kid of being selfish, but from what my understanding is, he feels alone, yet cares about other people. Several times in my life have I felt that offing myself in such a manner, to show that instead of directing all of my frustrations and anger at everyone else, I push them onto myself. The thought is just comforting since that instead of letting it get to you and turning you into a complete asshole and going on a murder spree, you just leave everyone's life permanently so that you may no longer bother them. In a way you just want people to know that you cared more about them than they did about you.
Oh boy another thread filled with people with zero experience with the mentally ill [QUOTE=eddy-tt-;40478921]"My life is shit, everything is shit, better show how shit it is to everyone else" Basically if someone goes and offs themselves infront of other people, they either do it cause attention for themselves or they don't care about the effects it'll present to over people. It's selfish.[/QUOTE] The ignorance... it almost physically hurts
[QUOTE=Valnar;40480132]Awful lot of people in this thread calling a depressed person selfish.[/QUOTE] No, we're calling a guy who most probably traumatized a good part of his class selfish. I have empathy with him, but doing suicide in this manner is being a dick whatever way you're looking at it. I'm aware of that suicidal people aren't necessarily rational, but we can't just say "but he was suicidal!" and let whatever he did slide. [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Gustafa;40480456]I fucking hate it when people feel the need to jump in front of a train, delaying my journey to work. Selfish bastards.[/QUOTE] No, I hate it when people feel the need to show their dismembered body off to children and other people standing around waiting for the train.
[QUOTE=IPK;40480879]Botched suicides are becoming more common these days.[/QUOTE] Thing is a lot of people trying to commit suicide deliberately fail as a cry for help, although they don't realize at the time that the method they're using (such as stuffing yourself with a bottle of sleeping pills) can permanently damage you.
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