• 700 Racists Shut Down an English Town This Weekend
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[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110423]The title should be fixed. You can't say all 700 people were racists. I bet less than 50 are. People are just tired with islams expansion and progression into europe and want it to stop. i wonder why you post this but don't post that several thousand muslims protested against freedom of speech in the uk against charlie hebdo. Are they not racists for attacking western and [b]white values?[/b][/QUOTE] white makes right etc
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110561]Alright mock white values. but if the tables are turned what if it was black values. Black pride day exists. Does it not exist to uphold black cultures and values. To say that black values dont exist is racist and likewise to say white values don't exist is hypocritical and racist too.[/QUOTE] way to entirely miss the point the point being that there are no white values, just as there are no black values black pride day isn't about any particular race's values, but equality in a world that still has racism, and in a historical context serves as a reminder of racism so that it may be avoided also, I advise anyone who is so unwise as to follow sensationalist headlines politics to try and keep an eye on who rates what topics in what way for example, FT displays behaviour both racist and homophobic food for thought?
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110665]BloodRayne, is it true you're from Bavaria - a place most Germans refer to as "The Texas of Germany"?[/QUOTE] Pretiacruento, is it true you're from Argentina - a place most of the world refer to as "Nothing to do with the conversation and is merely trying to stir shit"?
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110561]Alright mock white values. but if the tables are turned what if it was black values. Black pride day exists. Does it not exist to uphold black cultures and values. To say that black values dont exist is racist and likewise to say white values don't exist is hypocritical and racist too.[/QUOTE] This guy is fucking for real. How do you go outside [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Fausty;47110689]Pretiacruento, is it true you're from Argentina - a place most of the world refer to as "Nothing to do with the conversation and is merely trying to stir shit"?[/QUOTE] How 'bout them Falklands
[QUOTE=Fausty;47110689]Pretiacruento, is it true you're from Argentina - a place most of the world refer to as "Nothing to do with the conversation and is merely trying to stir shit"?[/QUOTE] man trying to counter a childish insult with another childish insult really isn't the way to go [quote]How 'bout them Falklands[/QUOTE] like, what does this even have to do with anything
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated white trash usually flocks to that ideology.[/QUOTE] That is a pretty fucking awful generalization of white people. Supremacism exists in every form and shape, and is not limited to skin colour, but can be any sort of "defining" trait, as in what someone will judge you by, any observable trait, behavior even: race, gender, religion, political conviction, diagnosis etc. or a combination of various(or even all) of these "defining" traits. I'd just wish that people would stop giving a shit about race and start seeing each others as members of the same species, put their differences aside and work together to accomplish something grand - But that is, and probably will remain a biblical myth. Edit: Minor freudian slip.
[QUOTE=Fausty;47110689]Pretiacruento, is it true you're from Argentina - a place most of the world refer to as "Nothing to do with the conversation and is merely trying to stir shit"?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=NeverGoWest;47110809]That is a pretty fucking awful generalization of white people.[/QUOTE] I went a bit overboard, I guess. I just dislike racists.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated trash usually flocks to that ideology. Edit: Whoa, would you look at all those boxes. The closet racists are coming out of the woodwork.[/QUOTE] Fixed that for you. If anyone is the closet racist here, i think it's you.
Amazing how this protest gets alot of publicity yet the one with Muslim's swarmed Downing Street gets nothing at all hardly.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47110723]How 'bout them Falklands[/QUOTE] I dunno, never cared for them in the first place. You're barking up the wrong tree. :v: [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Comcastic;47110856]Fixed that for you. If anyone is the closet racist here, i think it's you.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. Fixed it in my post.
Oh lord, I can't wait for the unabashedly islamophobic EDL fans to crawl out of the woodwork. I come from a town in Texas with very strong racial tensions between rich white doctors and the poor disenfranchised blacks and mexicans. We didn't start bussing kids to the high school until the early 80s in order to avoid having to help all the black kids go to school - and we only did that after a court order. I've seen a shitload of racism and I'm very accustomed to it, and you people are joking yourselves if you think islamophobia is anything different than racism in America. I'm a firm believer that Europe is less self-aware of their problems with racism than the US is. I regularly see people post online about "fucking gypsies" and how the "goddamn muslims are taking over." It's literally the same exact thing as people going "them messicans are stealing our jerbs." You're just as fucking stupid as those obese stupid Americans you criticize. You're a bigoted minority that would be watching Fox News daily if you had been raised in the U.S. Seriously, get some outside perspective on this shit before you say "muslims are taking over" and hilariously wrong bullshit like that. It's genuinely retarded. I immediately think of you as some slack-jawed slick-haired british guy wearing nike gear, drinking canned wine, and huffing aerosols - just like you think of the anti-black and anti-mexican Americans as fat, flag-waving, clapping idiots.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47110307]lotta facemasks there [t]http://i.imgur.com/10gbGId.jpg[/t] i can't even believe the cops would have something like that at their disposal[/QUOTE] That is actually like that cool police barricade in Deus Ex Human Revolution, I like it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Dumb Reference" - Blazyd))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Soret;47110980]That is actually like that cool police barricade[/QUOTE] I'd snip that. Did you not see the guy get banned for making a reference?
[QUOTE=.Isak.;47110885]I'm a firm believer that Europe is less self-aware of their problems with racism than the US is. I regularly see people post online about "fucking gypsies" and how the "goddamn muslims are taking over." It's literally the same exact thing as people going "them messicans are stealing our jerbs." You're just as fucking stupid as those obese stupid Americans you criticize. You're a bigoted minority that would be watching Fox News daily if you had been raised in the U.S.[/QUOTE] I understand that, but sometimes you guys take it to the extreme! Someone I know once flew to the US for work, and he had to fill in some paperwork at a company, which of course included the race. He politely asked to the assistant, if he had to complete that part... and she replied "well, you have to", and he asked her "why does it matter? I'll just go with 'mixed race' or whatever", and she said it's "because we don't want to offend you". It's not that we turn a blind eye to it, we just don't see it very productive to bring up the race at every chance they get - the best way I can explain it, is in that one time, when an American reporter asked a British black athlete, how did it felt to be such a very well-regarded "African British" athlete, and he replied that he's not "African Britsh", he's just British... or more precisely, a British man who happens to be black. There was some video on YouTube, about Oprah's reaction to a black American actress, who didn't refer to herself as "African American", just "American"... and I thought that's how it should be, and Oprah had none of that, it looked like she blew a head gasket. I mean WTF man... how are you guys going to overcome some of your racial issues like that? [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] I mean it's one thing to acknowledge it, and another one is to turn everything into a race-centric matter.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47111008]I understand that, but sometimes you guys take it to the extreme! Someone I know once flew to the US for work, and he had to fill in some paperwork at a company, which of course included the race. He politely asked to the assistant, if he had to complete that part... and she replied "well, you have to", and he asked her "why does it matter? I'll just go with 'mixed race' or whatever", and she said it's "because we don't want to offend you". It's not that we turn a blind eye to it, we just don't see it very productive to bring up the race at every chance they get - the best way I can explain it, is in that one time, when an American reporter asked a British black athlete, how did it felt to be such a very well-regarded "African British" athlete, and he replied that he's not "African Britsh", he's just British... or more precisely, a British man who happens to be black. There was some video on YouTube, about Oprah's reaction to a black American actress, who didn't refer to herself as "African American", just "American"... and I thought that's how it should be, and Oprah had none of that, it looked like she blew a head gasket. I mean WTF man... how are you guys going to overcome some of your racial issues like that? [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] I mean it's one thing to acknowledge it, and another one is to turn everything into a race-centric matter.[/QUOTE] Well, for official work things, it's probably got a lot to do with statistics for the company and the government.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47110508]Blows my mind how people can say that Islamophobia isn't racism.[/QUOTE] A term created to stop any real form of criticism against Islam.
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110561]Alright mock white values. but if the tables are turned what if it was black values. Black pride day exists. Does it not exist to uphold black cultures and values. To say that black values dont exist is racist and likewise to say white values don't exist is hypocritical and racist too.[/QUOTE] Define white values.
I feel bad for Muslims. They're stuck with a stigma because of a bad few out of a hefty bunch.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated (usually white) trash usually flocks to that ideology. Edit: Whoa, would you look at all those boxes. The closet racists are coming out of the woodwork.[/QUOTE] How can you call people racist when you say that racists are usually white There are racists in all cultures
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110578]Explain me, briefly, what is a "white value". Just name me one, that is intrinsecally and unabashedly [I]white[/I].[/QUOTE] name me one thing that is intrinsecally and unabashedly black, asian, muslim, etc and racism and every edl bullshit aside, sharia law is regressive and nothing is being done about its unlawful integration into western societies [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=wauterboi;47111718]I feel bad for Muslims. They're stuck with a stigma because of a bad few out of a hefty bunch.[/QUOTE] I feel bad for white people, they're stuck with a stigma because of a bad few out of a hefty bunch
you tried to use his own metaphor against him and it really didn't work.
[QUOTE=.Lain;47113282]you tried to use his own metaphor against him and it really didn't work.[/QUOTE] that's not what a metaphor is
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated (usually white) trash usually flocks to that ideology. Edit: Whoa, would you look at all those boxes. The closet racists are coming out of the woodwork.[/QUOTE] why are you condemning people who rated you dumb as closet racists when not only did none of them sayi anything racist, your post is actually racist.
[QUOTE=Egevened;47112778]name me one thing that is intrinsecally and unabashedly black, asian, muslim, etc [/quote] He never said there were any. Stop trying to avoid admitting you messed up. [quote]and racism and every edl bullshit aside, sharia law is regressive and nothing is being done about its unlawful integration into western societies [/QUOTE] unlawful integration into western societies? How exactly? Harassment, discrimination and corperal/capital punishment are illegal in the UK regardless of their context. The Government has a monopoly on any court of law. People might hold sharia councils in their own home but first and foremost comes the actual law. They cannot legally impose things on you or punish you. You are just repeating some hollow rhetoric you read on stormfront, daily stormer, the edl website or a daily mail spin piece.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;47113381] The Government has a monopoly on any court of law. People might hold sharia councils in their own home but first and foremost comes the actual law. They cannot legally impose things on you or punish you. [/QUOTE] that's nice, but [video=youtube;UC2VQjSgpso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2VQjSgpso[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [video=youtube;y1tEpjmFH9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tEpjmFH9g[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] nice daily mail pieces
[QUOTE=Egevened;47113407]that's nice, but [video=youtube;UC2VQjSgpso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2VQjSgpso[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [video=youtube;y1tEpjmFH9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tEpjmFH9g[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] nice daily mail pieces[/QUOTE] Have you ever been to london? The video is making it out like it happens regularly, it doesn't. The video makes it seem like the police do nothing about it, they do. What they're doing there, intimidating people in the street, is illegal. Lots of those guys have been arrested, asbo'd or approached by the MI5. Just because you saw a video of it doesn't mean it is legal or common.
[QUOTE=Egevened;47113407]that's nice, but [video=youtube;UC2VQjSgpso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2VQjSgpso[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [video=youtube;y1tEpjmFH9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tEpjmFH9g[/video] [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] nice daily mail pieces[/QUOTE] 'Look at me quoting shitty site instead of other shitty site', you sure showed us man, you sure showed us.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;47113474]Have you ever been to london? The video is making it out like it happens regularly, it doesn't. The video makes it seem like the police do nothing about it, they do. What they're doing there, intimidating people in the street, is illegal. Lots of those guys have been arrested, asbo'd or approached by the MI5. Just because you saw a video of it doesn't mean it is legal or common.[/QUOTE] holy shit and you're calling my opinions closeted when you're blindly firing assumptions based on a fucking flagdog how does the frequency of these things happening affect the validity of my point or concerns [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Damjen;47113487]'Look at me quoting shitty site instead of other shitty site', you sure showed us man, you sure showed us.[/QUOTE] yeah look at that biased 20 minute documentary with actual journalism
[QUOTE=Egevened;47113501]holy shit and you're calling my opinions closeted when you're blindly firing assumptions based on a fucking flagdog [/quote] Yup that was equally ignorant of me. [quote] how does the frequency of these things happening affect the validity of my point or concerns [/QUOTE] You're original statement suggested "nothing was being done bla bla bla" Those videos do not prove that nothing was being done, so they do not prove your point. The police arrested some of those guys and the cleric has been tried for terrorism (on a seperate issue). So I think your original statement was wrong.
Holy shit this thread is a riot
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