700 Racists Shut Down an English Town This Weekend
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Lots of people wearing face covers, it's like they don't want to be associated with their cause, which is odd!
Gives them a bad image if anything, making them look like aggressive thugs.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;47113560]Yup that was equally ignorant of me.
You're original statement suggested "nothing was being done bla bla bla"
Those videos do not prove that nothing was being done, so they do not prove your point.
The police arrested some of those guys and the cleric has been tried for terrorism (on a seperate issue). So I think your original statement was wrong.[/QUOTE]
okay yeah you're right on that I'll admit, the videos I posted I didn't post to prove that nothing was being done; I posted them to prove that even if on a small scale, it is happening
it's not any worse than say, a child trafficking ring made up of nothing but white people, but both should be treated equally and not rammed headfirst with extremism
I wouldn't like to pull the 'if you immigrate to a country abide by its laws' rhetoric here at all, because now THAT one definitely sounds racist, but it's technically true
[QUOTE=Source;47110860]Amazing how this protest gets alot of publicity yet the one with Muslim's swarmed Downing Street gets nothing at all hardly.[/QUOTE]
Well this is hardly swamping the TV channels right now. I doubt it'd make any national tv.
They were both featured in the news in some form... what the hell do you want?
[QUOTE=Egevened;47113598]okay yeah you're right on that I'll admit, the videos I posted I didn't post to prove that nothing was being done; I posted them to prove that even if on a small scale, it is happening
it's not any worse than say, a child trafficking ring made up of nothing but white people, but both should be treated equally and not rammed headfirst with extremism
I wouldn't like to pull the 'if you immigrate to a country abide by its laws' rhetoric here at all, because now THAT one definitely sounds racist, but it's technically true[/QUOTE]
it's absolutely true, terrorists and that ilk should be tried by these laws. But the fact is, events like this where a group of EDL/White power skinheads/football hooligans beat some people up, damage a Bangladeshi families shop, or generally cause disorder, happen with far more frequency that cases of islamic extremism in the UK. Especially down here in the south east where I live, there are a lot of white power skinheads in my area, and they're far more of a threat to my daily life than the muslim community
[QUOTE=Egevened;47112778]I feel bad for white people, they're stuck with a stigma because of a bad few out of a hefty bunch[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or genuine, but I can say stuff like this is true to an extent. With every single group there is, the loudest and most obnoxious will represent a group. People do have a negative stereotype for white people. However, to say this negative stereotype is on par or even relevant to the stigma against Muslims is ignorant. I know people who are uncomfortable sitting near to Muslims simply because they're afraid of them being terrorists, and as you can see in the video, the fear of terrorism is a strong factor in this riot as well.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated (usually white) trash usually flocks to that ideology.
Edit: Whoa, would you look at all those boxes. The closet racists are coming out of the woodwork.[/QUOTE]
Poor? Upper class society begs to differ.
Usually white? Can you spell Ironic?
Yeah, just scream racist when called out after you spout such uniformed meritless dribble.
A lot of racism against whites in this thread.
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You may as well have a swastika on your face.
How would a tattoo like that ever be a good idea, you can't even hide it with a hat.
[QUOTE=morky;47113578]Holy shit this thread is a riot[/QUOTE]
People without a shred of empathy for the way of thinking of another political stance, that's SH for you. If you're not on the left, you're a racist bigot bastard.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47110281]Jesus Britain, i know we got racists, but damn....[/QUOTE]
Our racists are nothing like yours.
We don't have guns.
[QUOTE=proch;47116157]People without a shred of empathy for the way of thinking of another political stance, that's SH for you. If you're not on the left, you're a racist bigot bastard.[/QUOTE]
I mean, EDL as a whole are bigoted and violent and are essentially on the level of 80s white power skinheads for the most part
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110541]Islam is not a race. It can be any race. It's a religious and political ideology. it is not racist no more than being christianphobic is racist or caraphobic.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you deff hate Islam as a whole and not just Arabs, that's why you think they're after 'white rights'
[QUOTE=Vasili;47111701]A term created to stop any real form of criticism against Islam.[/QUOTE]
Anglophobia, Francophobia, Sinophobia, etc. "Christianophobia," "Anti-Christian Sentiment."
You could apply this line of reasoning to any of these words. All of them were coined on purpose at some point in time to describe a negative social phenomenon, so why would your statement only apply to Islamophobia?
[QUOTE=Egevened;47113501]holy shit and you're calling my opinions closeted when you're blindly firing assumptions based on a fucking flagdog
how does the frequency of these things happening affect the validity of my point or concerns
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yeah look at that biased 20 minute documentary with actual journalism[/QUOTE]
If you think VICE is proper journalism then I'd hate to see what you consider shitty journalism.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47110283]Racists are the same everywhere: poor, uneducated (usually white) trash usually flocks to that ideology.
Edit: Whoa, would you look at all those boxes. The closet racists are coming out of the woodwork.[/QUOTE]
I would broaden that demographic; it also includes those of all races. Even amongst African Americans there is an openly spoken prejudicial system based on the lightness/darkness and shade of black they are. You don't see this amongst better educated more socially well-rounded individuals, regardless of race.
[QUOTE=Vasili;47111701]A term created to [B]represent an idea and/or phenomenon[/B].[/QUOTE]
ftfy
sorry i know that it's hip and cool (among the proponents of every ideology) to pretend that there's a massive evil conspiracy (by some amorphous sociopolitical shadow-mass) against your specific belief system and agenda, but you can't pretend that a word which describes A was created with the intentional agenda of misclassifying B under said word
here let me illustrate what i mean
"Antisemitism": a term created to stop any real form of criticism against zionism.
"Political correctness gone mad": a phrase created to stop any real form of criticism against racists.
neither of these terms or phrases were coined with the asserted purpose in mind. they were made to describe exactly what their definitions are
and just because some people jump the gun and misuse a word with negative connotations doesn't mean that there's a campaign of censorship against the recipients of the jump-gunning.
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