• Origin launches Game Time; battles the "try before you buy" piracy excuse.
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[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;45162920]free weekends[/QUOTE] Yay Call of Duty free weekend!
[QUOTE=MisterSjeiks;45165233]Doesn't this technically mean you could make different Origin accounts and just keep playing Titanfall forever?[/QUOTE]Kinda but you would never progress so if you're fine with that go ahead.
I think this model would work a lot better if every Origin title had an individual Game Time meter (averaging between ten minutes and one or two hours, depending on how big the game is, but they can still do free weekend deals if they want) so you can demo any game in their library to see how well it runs, whether or not you like it, etc. But in order to prevent people from exploiting this system to essentially play an entire game for free, these meters don't refill. It's a fair trade, if you ask me. And then Valve should do the exact same thing with Steam so everyone will be happy.
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;45165286]I think this model would work a lot better if every Origin title had an individual Game Time meter (averaging between ten minutes and one or two hours, depending on how big the game is) so you can demo any game in their library to see how well it runs, whether or not you like it, etc. But in order to prevent people from exploiting this system to essentially play an entire game for free, these meters don't refill. It's a fair trade, if you ask me. And then Valve should do the exact same thing with Steam so everyone will be happy.[/QUOTE] One problem with a system like that is you can essentially download the game and just acquire a crack when trial runs out. Doesn't worth for titanfall since it's MP title. But for SP ones that's a problem.
Not gonna download 50gb just to play for 2 days
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;45165286]I think this model would work a lot better if every Origin title had an individual Game Time meter (averaging between ten minutes and one or two hours, depending on how big the game is, but they can still do free weekend deals if they want) so you can demo any game in their library to see how well it runs, whether or not you like it, etc. But in order to prevent people from exploiting this system to essentially play an entire game for free, these meters don't refill. It's a fair trade, if you ask me. And then Valve should do the exact same thing with Steam so everyone will be happy.[/QUOTE] They mentioned different meters for different games, so I'm pretty sure that's what they're already planning to do.
[QUOTE=smurfy;45162985]I'm consistently surprised by how shit Origin isn't[/QUOTE] EA went into digital distribution with the worst of intentions and realized they were going to lose hard to Steam if they didn't step it up.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45165335]That's not really a problem? Even if you didn't have this system, you can still download the game, and crack it.[/QUOTE] So then that means their ultimate goal for it is moot.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45165335]That's not really a problem? Even if you didn't have this system, you can still download the game, and crack it.[/QUOTE] You can't download it from official sources though.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45165446]Well they are trying to get rid of the argument "but i'm only trying it before I buy it". If you're truly trying it before you buy it, you'd play the x hours, and either buy it, or not buy it. If you were going to crack it anyway then not much is going to stop you, now is it?[/QUOTE] But they've made it essentially easier to grab the core files, all people need to do now like you said is to crack it.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45165465]Its no easier than going to TPB and sitting and waiting for it to download. Grasping at straws people, this isn't anything to complain about, and does well to combat the "try it before you buy it" crowd.[/QUOTE] I'm not grasping at straws or complaining about it. I'm saying it's just easier to grab the files now legitimately than risking a shoddy torrent. Why are you so defensive? It's not the perfect counter-measure you know.
What I think has to be realized is so far the games that have been given out for free (or in the case of Titanfall, free two day thing) is that all of the games are in some way owned or published by EA which means they probably have a greater say in how it's all done and it enables them to do this. With Steam, Valve only own a handful of the games and most likely would have to negotiate with each publisher / studio to pull off such a thing. It's not just a case of Valve stepping it up, it's also the logistics behind it.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;45162906]That's really awesome actually Your move steam[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? steam has done this A LOT of times
[QUOTE=Trogdon;45162906]That's really awesome actually Your move steam[/QUOTE] I doubt Steam will really do anything. Of GoG, Origin, and Steam, Steam is definitely making itself the lesser of the three competitors. GoG offers no DRM whatsoever, and from some of the game to game stuff I've seen they're offering better sales right now too. Origin has made numerous progressive moves that address concerns of the gaming community, like refunds and now demos. Steam is currently more focused on making the Steam store more like, of all things, the fucking XBOX Live Indie Game Marketplace.
I like Steam for the sales, the social aspect and the convenience of having most of my games in one place. For pretty much everything else Steam is falling behind.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45165569]I like Steam for the sales, the social aspect and the convenience of having most of my games in one place. For pretty much everything else Steam is falling behind.[/QUOTE] Steam's biggest edge is it's constant sales, but honestly the annual sales seem to be met with less jubilee each year, because there's [I]constant[/I] sales all the time anyway, and a lot of people have all the games they want already. I don't even own many games, and I've got all the big hits I want, leaving only sales with a variety of games that would be neat to have I guess. At least, that's how it feels to me, but maybe that's just in my head, who knows.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45163041]This isn't going to do anything to piracy because it was a phony excuse to begin with.[/QUOTE] Bingo. [QUOTE=Brt5470;45164811]If you don't think people pirate games because there is no demo of it you are naive.[/QUOTE] And that's what makes it a convenient excuse.
[QUOTE=Robber;45164939]I like how Killer Instinct did it. You can either buy the full game for $20 or you can just buy small pieces of it (in that case characters).[/QUOTE] I think Dead Or Alive 5: Core Fighters did it better. You are given 4 characters at the start plus two that are swapped out every month and AFAIK all the stages. It includes all the modes except the story.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45165416]EA went into digital distribution with the worst of intentions and realized they were going to lose hard to Steam if they didn't step it up.[/QUOTE] this is why competition is healthy
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45165569]I like Steam for the sales, the social aspect and the convenience of having most of my games in one place. For pretty much everything else Steam is falling behind.[/QUOTE] What Origin [i]really[/i] needs are community features like Steam has. I think that no matter what else they do to attract players, without strong community features like groups, group chats, and private forums, Origin will never really grow. [editline]20th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;45164260]Honestly EA is a bad company, they just happened to understand that Origin was a great PR tool if used right, and it works. Decent performance, rather good prices, free games and pretty damn good trial system. Basically for every fuckup they can do they still have the ability to put out a couple free games on Origin and calm people down. I'm not gonna complain, free games are always good.[/QUOTE] You're probably too blinded by your hate of EA, but they has been improving a lot lately.
- welp apparently this was against the rules, the more you know-
I love when companies actually take care of their past problems you get dips muttering over sour grapes. "they're only doing it so people will like them and buy their stuff again" no shit, it's like they learned a lesson or care about continuing as a company so they can develop more games
This is not a new concept, do none of you people remember trygames.com? It was like the original digital distribution method. [editline]20th June 2014[/editline] Also as for the whole steam vs origin thing, steam is a much better all round product IMO but origin beats it in some cases. Like speed, seriously I downloaded the hardline beta at 22.8Mb/s I struggle to get even half of that with steam..
If i origin ever gets a security system akin to steam guard, I would say its just as good for me as steam
The biggest issue with me for Origin is that they don't have a single game that I want to play. Steam, on the other hand...
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;45163076]You know, I wouldn't mind a new, optional sort of "pay as you go" game distribution model where you pay, say, $5 for 10-20 hours of gameplay and are allowed to download and play whatever in the library. For people like me who hardly have time to play games but want to keep up with the newer multiplayer experiences, it would be nice to not shell out the big bucks for games people abandon in a matter of days, and try out games I wouldn't try out otherwise while cutting down on the steam library fat.[/QUOTE] Uncharted 3 actually did this, you could purchase the MP experience and not the SP experience.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;45168133]Steam, on the other hand...[/QUOTE] ...doesn't either. Nothing to buy during the sale, already have everything.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;45168173]...doesn't either. Nothing to buy during the sale, already have everything.[/QUOTE] So you already own games which you want to play, on steam? That's totally different to not having [I]any[/I] games, bought or not, that you want to play.
Yeah nice job I guess, but that ain't a demo. Sure you can combat bullshit excuses for piracy all you want, but that's no problem. The main problem is the absence of demo-versions of games prior to release or closely after release, so people could know what they're buying. Placing a game on free-weekend months after release isn't that.
I don't understand why people hate Origin and EA so much. In total, I have spent $1 on games that redeem on Origin. Now, with that said, [thumb]http://puu.sh/9Cyy4/168241f6c1.jpg[/thumb] This is my Origin Library. EA is really becoming really fucking generous compared to Steam. [editline]20th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=gudman;45168365]Yeah nice job I guess, but that ain't a demo. Sure you can combat bullshit excuses for piracy all you want, but that's no problem. The main problem is the absence of demo-versions of games prior to release or closely after release, so people could know what they're buying. Placing a game on free-weekend months after release isn't that.[/QUOTE] The open beta, however, is. For instance, I know I can't run BF:H now because I've played the beta and it ran like ass.
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