• First rebels enter Tripoli from the west. No resistance as first neighborhood liberated. WARNING: Ma
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I bet you all within a year there will be a autocratic/despotic/dictatorial/etc government in place, and the only difference is that everybody will be worse off after than before.
[url]http://twitter.com/#!/ITwitius/status/105451431103971328[/url] They are putting out the same stock footage they have been using for months. One of the Sky team on Twitter suspect it might be coming from a broadcast truck at the hotel where the journalists are staying.
NSFW [url]http://i54.tinypic.com/96kfhj.png[/url]
IS THAT GADDAFI?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;31871762]IS THAT GADDAFI?[/QUOTE] Couldn't be anyone else.
I [I]think[/I] that was posted on military photos earlier (Not seen either) and debunked. [url]http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?195079-Libyan-Conflict-Photos-and-Videos&p=5825573&viewfull=1#post5825573[/url] Is it the same image? Any chance you could describe the image you linked to?
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[QUOTE=Jsm;31871791]I [I]think[/I] that was posted on military photos earlier (Not seen either) and debunked. [url]http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?195079-Libyan-Conflict-Photos-and-Videos&p=5825573&viewfull=1#post5825573[/url] Is it the same image? Any chance you could describe the image you linked to?[/QUOTE] A guy that looks exactly like Gaddafi in a pool of blood, looks legit..? Close up shot
A lot of news sources keep saying that he fled. How likely is it that he was actually shot if everyone is saying that he fled?
[QUOTE=IceBlizzard;31871713]NSFW [url]http://i54.tinypic.com/96kfhj.png[/url][/QUOTE] Gentlemen, place your bets on when the provisional government will end up falling to bits.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31871855]Gentlemen, place your bets on when the provisional government will end up falling to bits.[/QUOTE] Are you just conditioned to hate anything that's being brought forth by masses of people??
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31871855]Gentlemen, place your bets on when the provisional government will end up falling to bits.[/QUOTE] Your unfailing optimism gives us all such inspiring hope
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31871855]Gentlemen, place your bets on when the provisional government will end up falling to bits.[/QUOTE] Honestly, they have a somewhat solid constitution and very good ideas surrounding the transition between the temporary government and the real government. As said before, they're preventing anyone who was in the TNC from serving in the new government.
They're going to be dependent on the same foreign governments who supplied them during their fight. I'll bet they'll be much better than Gaddafi's regime.
Let's hope the provisional government does not fall to bits. Otherwise we'll see a post civil war Libya be way worse off than the dictatorship they endured under Gaddafi.. It's funny how if Gaddafi had just been a little lenient and not so quick to oppress his people, he could be sitting in a comfortable position still.. You can't erase the accomplishments he had achieved during his reign, like what's been said earlier in the thread.
[QUOTE=lum1naire;31871944]Let's hope the provisional government does not fall to bits. Otherwise we'll see a post civil war Libya be way worse off than the dictatorship they endured under Gaddafi.[/QUOTE] It's already worse off.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31871986]It's already worse off.[/QUOTE] Because civil wars and internal conflicts are times when the country's economy booms. Just shut up. You've always been touting how Libya has been a prosperous country under Gaddafi's rule. Why the Hell would a country want a leader that is willing to stomp his boot on his own citizens just so that he can stay on his seat? He can massacre hundreds while he improves highways, and you would still parade about how he has improved Libya's infrastructure and his great procedures in population control?
I seriously doubt that if things go bad, another dictator will take power. They whole country just fought to get rid of one and that spirit is still strong. If something happens, it will become decentralized, with Libya breaking up into fractions; most likely into three sections - east, west and south as the ethnic regions are.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;31872018]I seriously doubt that if things go bad, another dictator will take power. They whole country just fought to get rid of one and that spirit is still strong. If something happens, it will become decentralized, with Libya breaking up into fractions; most likely into three sections - east, west and south as the ethnic regions are.[/QUOTE] Tribal warfare could be an issue, a sort of Iraq like situation but worse.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;31872012]Because civil wars and internal conflicts are times when the country's economy booms. Just shut up. You've always been touting how Libya has been a prosperous country under Gaddafi's rule. Why the Hell would a country want a leader that is willing to stomp his boot on his own citizens just so that he can stay on his seat? He can massacre hundreds while he improves highways, and you would still parade about how he has improved Libya's infrastructure and his great procedures in population control?[/QUOTE] I would say he left Libya much better off than before, and had Libya simply waited it would have gradually changed into a democracy. It seems to be better off before the civil war than during it and most likely after it. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;31872018]I seriously doubt that if things go bad, another dictator will take power. They whole country just fought to get rid of one and that spirit is still strong. If something happens, it will become decentralized, with Libya breaking up into fractions; most likely into three sections - east, west and south as the ethnic regions are.[/QUOTE] Russia and France both fought to get rid of their monarchs, but sure enough they had autocrats with even greater power than before, and launched into a long series of bloody wars.
The war is over. Finally. Less bloody than i expected.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31872048]I would say he left Libya much better off than before, and had Libya simply waited it would have gradually changed into a democracy.[/QUOTE] It just did change into a democracy. Gradually, over the past five months.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31872048]I would say he left Libya much better off than before, and had Libya simply waited it would have gradually changed into a democracy.[/QUOTE] 42 years is not waiting? The NAACP got black people to vote properly in half that time.
The dead Gaddafi picture is fake, it's one of the three guys that died in the house raid of Osama
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;31872064]42 years is not waiting? The NAACP got black people to vote properly in half that time.[/QUOTE] The human race waited about 12,000 years to gain universal suffrage since the first governments popped up.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31872093]The human race waited about 12,000 years to gain universal suffrage.[/QUOTE] When it comes to getting freedom, sooner is always better than later.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;31872105]When it comes to getting freedom, sooner is always better than later.[/QUOTE] Freedoms a relative value.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31872111]Freedoms a relative value.[/QUOTE] I have this odd feeling I'd like to see you move to North Korea :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;31872135]I have this odd feeling I'd like to see you move to North Korea :v:[/QUOTE] I'd rather move to China.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31872153]I'd rather move to China.[/QUOTE] Please do! Hopefully they'll censor Facepunch by the time you move, too.
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