• Police shoot crazy guy waving a knife in the middle of times square, all of it was caught on film
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[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190743]10.6 metres is the max range, that's a pretty comfortable distance when you see that they were around about that distance (at least in the short snippet of footage shown)[/QUOTE] A man with a knife can also rush in from the distance incredibly fast. I don't think anybody wanted to shoot him but the guy with the knife kinda forced them to.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190980]I guess the same could be said for them risking themselves to lethally take down an insane man with a weapon that might not work, needs to be fired from close range and isn't guaranteed to hit anyway. They are police officers, solving risky situations is their job[/QUOTE] How do you know the man was insane?
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190980]I guess the same could be said for them risking themselves to lethally take down an insane man with a weapon that might not work, needs to be fired from close range and isn't guaranteed to hit anyway. They are police officers, solving risky situations is their job[/QUOTE] Uh, no, a bullet is different than a tazer. A bullet also moves a fucking lot faster than a tazer. A bullet is usually guaranteed to work if it hits.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190933]I know tasers are not the most reliable thing, but the fact that they weren't considered for use in the situation strikes me as wrong.[/QUOTE] Tasers are just an alternative way of subduing someone when you [I]could[/I] beat/wrestle them to the ground, but don't want to risk injury or getting punched yourself. I'm quite sure the cops have used tasers before, and I'm quite sure they understand that [I]you do not counter lethal force with less-lethal force.[/I] The cops don't want to risk anyone's life over that ONE life. If they shoot him, they know he's the only one that will get hurt that day. If they try playing "heroes" that save the life of all parties, they start risking the lives of more and more people, completely unnecessarily.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190997]In this situation it seems just that[/QUOTE] No that is not what it seems like. Why would the police just open fire after waiting for a while? The man was obviously proving to be a threat either by moving to harm police officers or others around him.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37191002]How do you know the man was insane?[/QUOTE] I don't, I was rewriting what was posted to change the argument.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;37190987]Facepunch when police open fire on a suspect: "OMG POLICE BRUTALITY they should have tried tazing him first!!1111111111" Facepunch when police use tazers on suspects: "OMG POLICE BRUTALITY tazers shouldn't be used! They're dangerous!"[/QUOTE] 2-3 people != facepunch as a whole. besides i never see anyone crying police brutality
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191020]I don't, I was rewriting what was posted to change the argument.[/QUOTE] Except its wrong because tazers are a fuckload different than pistols.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37191002]How do you know the man was insane?[/QUOTE] It's far more likely that he was high. The effects of some drugs can result in people shrugging off pain, even from bullets.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;37191023]2-3 people != facepunch as a whole. besides i never see anyone crying police brutality[/QUOTE] Then you must not read news section thread. Are you being serious right now? You never see people crying police brutality? What forum are you from?
[QUOTE=AaronM202;37191030]Except its wrong because tazers are a fuckload different than pistols.[/QUOTE] Well not really, as the attributes you posted can also be applied to pistols
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190933]I know tasers are not the most reliable thing, but the fact that they weren't considered for use in the situation strikes me as wrong.[/QUOTE]I can agree with that, less dead people is a good thing, after all. Anywho, it's quite possible that none of them had tasers, too. (Not sure about that, but food for thought). [QUOTE=xxncxx;37190941]I edited my post[/QUOTE]Snipped mine 'cause I'm a nice guy.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191045]Well not really, as the attributes you posted can also be applied to pistols[/QUOTE] Please just stop. You don't know anything about tasers or firearms if you think the two function the same.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;37190734][b]TAZERS ARE USED UP CLOSE, HE HAD A KNIFE.[/b] Seriously dude.[/QUOTE] What? Tasers definitely have longer range than a knife. If he had a gun then that's another story
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191045]Well not really, as the attributes you posted can also be applied to pistols[/QUOTE] Uh...No. Not really. If you shoot someone, they're probably going to feel the effects, and its probably going to work. Also, bullets move a lot faster than tazers.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37191040]Then you must not read news section thread. Are you being serious right now? You never see people crying police brutality? What forum are you from?[/QUOTE] i read it plenty, i hardly see people whine police brutality when tazers or guns are used, only in that one rare thread where someone who shouldnt have been shot, got shot.
Just do a fucking Google search or read a Wikipedia article on pistols and tasers and learn how they are different before posting your uninformed and blatantly wrong opinion.
And by feel, if several guys shoot a guy in the chest multiple times, he's probably going to die.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37191057]Please just stop. You don't know anything about tasers or firearms if you think the two function the same.[/QUOTE] please tell me how [quote] a weapon that might not work, needs to be fired from close range and isn't guaranteed to hit anyway.[/quote] can be applied to tasers but not to pistols
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37190980]I guess the same could be said for them risking themselves to lethally take down an insane man with a weapon that might not work, needs to be fired from close range and isn't guaranteed to hit anyway. They are police officers, solving risky situations is their job[/QUOTE] Their job is to save lives. Not risk the lives of themselves and several bystanders whenever they aren't in the mood for killing a lunatic.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37191066]Just do a fucking Google search or read a Wikipedia article on pistols and tasers and learn how they are different before posting your uninformed and blatantly wrong opinion.[/QUOTE] my opinion is better than yours therefore your opinion is wrong and mine is fact
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191075]please tell me how can be applied to tasers but not to pistols[/QUOTE] Hey guys, apparently you can only fire pistols from close range, and even then it's inaccurate. Oh wait, that's completely untrue.
I see how this was justifiable but at at the same token they could have apprehended the suspect without killing him using things like bean bag shotguns or long range pepper spray.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;37191081]Their job is to save lives. Not risk the lives of themselves and several bystanders whenever they aren't in the mood for killing a lunatic.[/QUOTE] Police wear stab vests, they maintain a perimeter in which bystanders are not allowed to enter and they have guns. Isn't it worth a go to use a taser when you have ample backup to protect you?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37191097]I see how this was justifiable but at at the same token they could have apprehended the suspect without killing him using things like bean bag shotguns or long range pepper spray.[/QUOTE] They tried pepper spray.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37191094]Hey guys, apparently you can only fire pistols from close range, and even then it's inaccurate. Oh wait, that's completely untrue.[/QUOTE] It's all relative
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191075]please tell me how can be applied to tasers but not to pistols[/QUOTE] Because unlike tazers, pistols: Can hit things from more than 10 Feet. Can fire it multiple times. Can blow holes through you.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191075]please tell me how can be applied to tasers but not to pistols[/QUOTE] For tasers, "close range" means around 10 feet compared to around 50 meters for the average 9mm pistol, and "(not) guaranteed to hit anyway" means that for a taser, the two prongs dont even fly in the same direction while a bullets flies straight out of the barrel of a firearm for a very long range.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191108]It's all relative[/QUOTE] What.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;37191075]please tell me how can be applied to tasers but not to pistols[/QUOTE] That applies to fucking EVERY WEAPON IN EXISTENCE, but a taser isn't a rifled weapon, it doesn't travel at the speed of sound, it doesn't have a zero, and it sure as fuck isn't easy to use at a distance, while a pistol is usually trained with at 25m.
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