[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32053424]Drug abuse is like suicide in that the victim is the criminal.[/QUOTE]
It's marijuana it's like the least life ruining drug ever made.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32053424]Drug abuse is like suicide in that the victim is the criminal.[/QUOTE]
For other things classified as drugs (heroin and meth come to mind immediately), this makes sense.
Marijuana use is harmless.
And really, even for those things it doesn't make sense, because people have the freedom to make whatever stupid choices they want, and keeping them illegal makes them unregulated and worse.
[QUOTE=lavacano;32053586]Marijuana use is harmless.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you [i]to an extent.[/i]
Inhaling suspended smoke particles and allowing them to collect inside your lungs isn't healthy at all, but that's purely the effect of inhaling [i]any[/i] smoke. The effects of the THC chemical is what's harmless.
[url]http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/152192/5_reasons_progressives_should_treat_ron_paul_with_extreme_caution_--_'cuddly'_libertarian_has_some_very_dark_politics/?page=entire[/url]
I need to learn to tag links...
Anyway, Ron Paul may be right about these things, but is insane in almost everything else he wishes to do to the government.
Marijuana is mostly harmless but you're running a considerable risk by being high and it's often spiked with some pretty deadly stuff (people smoke it coated in embalming fluid for cryin' out loud!).
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32054353]Marijuana is mostly harmless but you're running a considerable risk by being high and it's often spiked with some pretty deadly stuff (people smoke it coated in embalming fluid for cryin' out loud!).[/QUOTE]
What? Marijuana is almost never "spiked".
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The only time it would be is if the person spikes it themself.
He's the only one that won't interfere with the changes that people in each state choose for themselves, how is that a bad thing?
Then people cry out about gay rights.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32054362]He's the only one that won't interfere with the changes that people in each state choose for themselves, how is that a bad thing?
Then people cry out about gay rights.[/QUOTE]
read the several reasons spread out in this thread and several others if you actually care.
if anything the crying is about the fact that such demagoguery is allowed to exist in mainstream society.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32054402]read the several reasons spread out in this thread and several others if you actually care.
if anything the crying is about the fact that such demagoguery is allowed to exist in mainstream society.[/QUOTE]
It will continue to exist in mainstream society since the vast majority of people are fucking stupid.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32054353]Marijuana is mostly harmless but you're running a considerable risk by being high and it's often spiked with some pretty deadly stuff (people smoke it coated in embalming fluid for cryin' out loud!).[/QUOTE]School usually isn't a liable source about marijuana use. Just saying.
Technically, drinking tea has the same amount of danger of being "spiked" then smoking marijuana.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32054499]It will continue to exist in mainstream society since the vast majority of people are fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
irrelevant, things in mainstream society has changed, it will be changed again
I can see why Ron Paul would hate the tea party. After all, he was the one that started it before Dick Army and Sarah Palin co-opted it, threw him out, and turned it into a party of know-nothings and people who can't see the ballot from behind their hood.
[QUOTE=Keegs;32052577]Ron Paul is okay however his idea that civil rights should be left up to the states is insane.[/QUOTE]
It is better than most republicans though, and is basically the status quo now anyways.
Basically it is his way of saying that he has his views, but knows its not fair for him to force said views on the people (or not very important for him). Id muchrather have that than some crackpot who shares his civil views and has an agenda to force them on the nation.
[QUOTE=KorJax;32056865]It is better than most republicans though, and is basically the status quo now anyways.
Basically it is his way of saying that he has his views, but knows its not fair for him to force said views on the people (or not very important for him). Id muchrather have that than some crackpot who shares his civil views and has an agenda to force them on the nation.[/QUOTE]
Ummmmmm, if he left anything up to the states that'd be a lot of views being enforced on people.
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;32054536]School usually isn't a liable source about marijuana use. Just saying.
Technically, drinking tea has the same amount of danger of being "spiked" then smoking marijuana.[/QUOTE]
*Spit Take*
[QUOTE=Swilly;32057101]Ummmmmm, if he left anything up to the states that'd be a lot of views being enforced on people.[/QUOTE]
any state that would actually take rights like that away would be fucking themselves over and they know it.
[QUOTE=Chilean;32057223]any state that would actually take rights like that away would be fucking themselves over and they know it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah...they'd still do it.
LBGT rights would go out the window, I bet the system would become extremely more racist in a lot of southern states.
Face it, historically, leaving civil rights up to states has never been a good idea.
He basically wants to recreate the Articles of Confederation and that failed miserably.
A lot of what Ron Paul says makes sense, a hell of a lot more than any of the other Republican candidates anyways.
But as most people have already pointed out, the good is always off set by the bad as stated in person11's article (Even though it's a liberally biased organization, their sources [I]are[/I] cited).
I'm really disappointed in the direction America is heading. I align myself more as a Republican than anything else, but in a very moderate sense. I think it's a damn shame that [I]all[/I] of the Republican candidates (and a huge majority that hold office) are living, breathing [I]stereotypes.[/I]
Why be anti big government and at the same time you want to enforce anti LBGT legislation and be "pro-life"? Instead of giving the people the choice to do what they want, such as marry someone of the same gender or transgender, or abort a cluster of cells because you were [I]raped[/I], or cannot support that child, they enforce greater government regulation against these subjects. I understand this is where conservatism comes in, but when your core ideals support greater restrictions on people's lives, especially when your religion is involved, I don't really understand why people are aligned with the party that traditionally advocated greater individual rights.
That is the supposed antithesis of what Republicans are [I]supposed[/I] to be. Throw in a little seperation of Church and State and you've got a good formula. Hell, most internet regulation acts that allow the federal government to spy on you are supported by Republicans. Let's not even mention the Patriot Act.
I want a viable alternative to the Democrats (that's not to say I really dislike Democrats, I just don't agree with current policies), and instead all I have are a party of bible waving, civil liberty restricting, all around phobic, two dimensional cardboard cutouts.
It's going to be fascinating to see how the future of this country unfolds.
[QUOTE=Chilean;32057223]any state that would actually take rights like that away would be fucking themselves over and they know it.[/QUOTE]
People are still openly racist and homophobic even when they know by doing that they are fucking themselves over for many people and many places.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32054357]What? Marijuana is almost never "spiked".
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The only time it would be is if the person spikes it themself.[/QUOTE]
I suppose if you discount synthetic cannabinoids such as JWH-018.
[QUOTE=Swilly;32057581]LBGT rights would go out the window[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong but there are practically no LGBT rights on a federal scale.
States do it however. Yeah, states are so horrible and oppressive, not like the federal government at all. You know, the federal government that cracks down on medical marijuana in California? Yeah, total freedom.
I mean Christ, look how much flak Arizona got for giving police the power to investigate if they thought someone was an illegal immigrant. Now imagine what would happen if a state tried to bring back segregation.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;32052480]The majority of Ron Paul's opinions are decent and logical, its just a few are so wildly insane they counter balance the good ones.[/QUOTE]
The fact that he's pro-life shadows everything. You don't need to be radical to want to end the war, and he has some very shitty views.
Fuck him.
[QUOTE=leet;32063707]The fact that he's pro-life shadows everything.[/QUOTE]
wow really? the fact that he has an opinion in the grayest area of politics shadows everything?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32054353]Marijuana is mostly harmless but you're running a considerable risk by being high and it's often spiked with some pretty deadly stuff (people smoke it coated in embalming fluid for cryin' out loud!).[/QUOTE]
The people who dip it in formaldehyde do so of their own volition, it's not 'spiked'.
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[QUOTE=Chilean;32063778]wow really? the fact that he has an opinion in the grayest area of politics shadows everything?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, indicative of the rest of his kyriarchal bullshit.
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[QUOTE=Chilean;32062153]Now imagine what would happen if a state tried to bring back segregation.[/QUOTE]
I'd hope a lot of African Americans would make use of the constitution and vote from the rooftops.
[QUOTE=Contag;32063807]Yeah, indicative of the rest of his kyriarchal bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Abortion is an extremely complex topic that people oversimplify.
I'd rather have the federal government compromise on a social issue than have California give everyone rights and the south restrict everyone's rights.
[QUOTE=Chilean;32064001]I disagree. Abortion is an extremely complex topic that people oversimplify.[/QUOTE]
Explain?
Most African-Americans are in the South, I really don't think it's as big of an issue as people think it is. Yes, most racists are also in the South, but most of the South isn't racist.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population[/url]
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