• Michelle Obama endorses healthier school lunches
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[QUOTE=Glaber;26685395]Actually, it is.[/QUOTE] As a man, your opinion has nothing to do with whether or not the fetus is aborted or not. [editline]13th December 2010[/editline] Unless you and your significant other want to make the decision together.
Fact is, aborting a fetus is denying the Right to Life. But that a topic for another thread.
is it denying right to life when all my sperm cells died while I was mopping them up with a tissue [editline]14th December 2010[/editline] and opinions are never facts
How did we get from Michelle Obama trying to get schools to offer healthier food to the moral repercussions of abortion
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26685722]How did we get from Michelle Obama trying to get schools to offer healthier food to the moral repercussions of abortion[/QUOTE] Healthy lunches are part of the socialist agenda to a) make our kids healthy so they b) fuck more and c) get abortions abc the path to demise vote ron paul 2012
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26685722]How did we get from Michelle Obama trying to get schools to offer healthier food to the moral repercussions of abortion[/QUOTE] Jenkem's fault [editline]13th December 2010[/editline] I guess I kinda amplified it
I noticed.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26685722]How did we get from Michelle Obama trying to get schools to offer healthier food to the moral repercussions of abortion[/QUOTE] This quality post by Jenkem: [QUOTE=Jenkem;26684093]How is it good that the government is telling *us* what we should do with our bodies? [b]Interesting. Are you pro-abortion, by chance?[/b] Actually, it is a nanny state action. You're probably too brainwashed and slack-jawed from your porn, marijuana, and soap operas to really think for yourself apart from whatever opinion you've absorbed, though.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the reiteration
[QUOTE=Glaber;26685628]Fact is, aborting a fetus is denying the Right to Life.[/QUOTE] Quite frankly, I doubt the fetus is going to care.
I think it's good. So long as they don't tell us what to eat in our own homes, but I doubt that would pass. Then again, most drugs are illegal, which is sort of fascist.
Well as long as they don't force people to eat stuff
[QUOTE=Glaber;26685628]Fact is, aborting a fetus is denying the Right to Life. But that a topic for another thread.[/QUOTE] Every time you fap you deny millions of sperm cells the right to life. You don't abort after the child has developed a consciousness. Abortion is done before the neural system is developed, meaning the child is nothing more than a collection of organs, a "shell", with no consciousness, self-awareness or anything like that whatsoever. Killing an undeveloped fetus is like killing a plant, or a microorganism. Of course, judging from your previous posts and the thread start, I'm guessing you're a far-right republican idiot who believes in souls and God, and thinks "hurr durr them scientists be tellin' un-american lies 'bout them brains and neural systems so that they can take away our liberties!"
[i]Why is this thread still open?[/i]
Why would anybody not endorse (or approve or whatever) the government ensuring children healthier meals in their schools?
There's nothing wrong with this. School food is shit.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;26691103]Every time you fap you deny millions of sperm cells the right to life. You don't abort after the child has developed a consciousness. Abortion is done before the neural system is developed, meaning the child is nothing more than a collection of organs, a "shell", with no consciousness, self-awareness or anything like that whatsoever. Killing an undeveloped fetus is like killing a plant, or a microorganism. Of course, judging from your previous posts and the thread start, I'm guessing you're a far-right republican idiot who believes in souls and God, and thinks "hurr durr them scientists be tellin' un-american lies 'bout them brains and neural systems so that they can take away our liberties!"[/QUOTE] BZZT So close. I am conservative, I believe in God, and I think that there is a place for science in our world, but it can't go unchecked. For that matter, I even believe that evolution is one of God's tools for creation. Let me explain my thinking on sperm, eggs and the fetus as best I currently can. The sperm is like an ignition key to a car, The car is like an egg. A running car is like the developing fetus. Now if you fap, it's like spilling a bunch of replicable, or blank keys. If the car is destroyed before it's assigned a key, that like when the man and woman missed their chance at the current egg. Now when you put the key into the car and start it up, you could almost say that it's alive. Almost. At this point the cat starts needing fuel. For a fetus this comes directly from the woman its developing in. Now for a fetus to be aborted it needs something surgical, for a car, a 2ltr bottle of pop (or more) in the gas tank. The example is not perfect and has some flaws, but for now it's the best I have. So, getting back on topic now, I have to wonder why some of you think that some of us are saying the free lunches are bad? What I'm saying is the Free BREAKFAST and DINNERs are. When you depend on School for all 3 meals of the day for all of the school year and the summer, why bother learning how to cook? Why try to get a job to be able to afford food? Or if you can't get a job, why bother scrounging for discarded pop bottles and cans that you can exchange for money at participating stores (US)? (and yes, there was a person that would come around the Baker College dumpsters doing just that.) If you just get Lunch from school, then you develop the knowledge of other areas where you can get food from. Is it healthy? Not so much, unless it's a soup kitchen (They don't just serve soup). Government programs can get repealed based on politics.
[QUOTE=Chrille;26693457]Why would anybody not endorse (or approve or whatever) the government ensuring children healthier meals in their schools?[/QUOTE] dey took oer candybarrrrrs unrelated, Glaber, you going to Ohayocon by chance? I know it's moderately close to you.
[QUOTE=Glaber;26679970]Now why do you think that? [/QUOTE] I don't know how you could make conservatives look any stupider.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26693684]dey took oer candybarrrrrs unrelated, Glaber, you going to Ohayocon by chance? I know it's moderately close to you.[/QUOTE] No, not this year. I primary go to Youmacon as I volunteer at table top gaming and run the Pokemon Trading Card game. Plus I currently can't afford to go.
[QUOTE=Glaber;26693674]Let me explain my thinking on sperm, eggs and the fetus as best I currently can. The sperm is like an ignition key to a car, The car is like an egg. A running car is like the developing fetus.[/QUOTE] how about this: The sperm is a million ignition keys to one car, The car is an egg and the fetus is optimus prime.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;26693756]how about this: The sperm is a million ignition keys to one car, The car is an egg and the fetus is optimus prime.[/QUOTE] awesome analogy, but I think it would be more sperm=keys egg=ignition fetus=engine starting baby born=get to work also let's get back on the topic of school food being changed for the better and how it's destroying america and taking away people's rights or whatever shenanigans limbaugh has announced
[QUOTE=Glaber;26693674]BZZT Let me explain my thinking on sperm, eggs and the fetus as best I currently can. The sperm is like an ignition key to a car, The car is like an egg. A running car is like the developing fetus. Now if you fap, it's like spilling a bunch of replicable, or blank keys. If the car is destroyed before it's assigned a key, that like when the man and woman missed their chance at the current egg. Now when you put the key into the car and start it up, you could almost say that it's alive. Almost. At this point the cat starts needing fuel. For a fetus this comes directly from the woman its developing in. Now for a fetus to be aborted it needs something surgical, for a car, a 2ltr bottle of pop (or more) in the gas tank. The example is not perfect and has some flaws, but for now it's the best I have. [/QUOTE] Some flaws? The entire example is stupid and has no real-life application whatsoever, and it doesn't seem to make much sense either. You're basing your beliefs about fetuses on similarities to cars and ignition keys? And when a sperm cell enters an egg cell it's hardly "almost alive". Its still just cells, no consciousness, their function is entirely based on chemical reactions and signals as well as the DNA telling it what proteins to produce. Diverse cells, like blood cells, start forming after a week, organs later on. The brain and nervous system is one of the last things to develop, and without a nervous system a fetus doesn't have a consciousness, it can't think or feel, just like cells, or organs like your heart or your guts, can't think. And how is the last sentence, [I]"Now for a fetus to be aborted it needs something surgical, for a car, a 2ltr bottle of pop (or more) in the gas tank."[/I] even the slightest bit relevant. You're comparing abortion to pouring soda into a car? In other words, your argument is invalid. Very much so. [QUOTE=Glaber;26693674] So, getting back on topic now, I have to wonder why some of you think that some of us are saying the free lunches are bad? What I'm saying is the Free BREAKFAST and DINNERs are. When you depend on School for all 3 meals of the day for all of the school year and the summer, why bother learning how to cook? Why try to get a job to be able to afford food? Or if you can't get a job, why bother scrounging for discarded pop bottles and cans that you can exchange for money at participating stores (US)? (and yes, there was a person that would come around the Baker College dumpsters doing just that.) If you just get Lunch from school, then you develop the knowledge of other areas where you can get food from. Is it healthy? Not so much, unless it's a soup kitchen (They don't just serve soup). [/QUOTE] Haha, like people who buy their kids McDonalds instead of making real food know how to cook anyway? Besides, this isn't intended for kids with parents who cook good food. This is intended for kids with parents who don't cook and just buy snacks and fast food, as well as kids with parents who can barely afford food. There's no reason for parents to send their kids to eat breakfast and dinner at school if they can afford healthy and good food, I think those parents would prefer to eat dinner with their children. And this is also intended for [B]kids[/B], not the entire fucking family, so it's pretty damn obvious why one would still need to go to work and learn how to cook. Your reasoning is flawed, you don't loose knowledge of cooking if you get free, healthy meals at your school. In fact, your gain knowledge about what to eat, what's good to eat e.t.c, and most importantly you make it a habit to eat healthy food instead of fast food shit. Who do you think learns more about cooking healthy meals, a kid who gets some extremely sugary breakfast, a pizza or hamburger for lunch and fast food for dinner, or a kid who gets to eat a variation of healthy food each day? And why would they learn cooking better if they were served food at home instead of at school? At home it's either ordering from a fast food restaurant or the parents cook, it's not very often children get to do the meals on their own. Finally, why the hell are you even complaining about this? It offers 3 free, completely optional and healthy meals to children. How is that bad? Are you this stupid for real, or trolling? "Buhu, they're giving us free things, fucking communists."
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;26695030]Haha, like people who buy their kids McDonalds instead of making real food know how to cook anyway? Besides, this isn't intended for kids with parents who cook good food. This is intended for kids with parents who don't cook and just buy snacks and fast food, as well as kids with parents who can barely afford food. There's no reason for parents to send their kids to eat breakfast and dinner at school if they can afford healthy and good food, I think those parents would prefer to eat dinner with their children. And this is also intended for [B]kids[/B], not the entire fucking family, so it's pretty damn obvious why one would still need to go to work and learn how to cook. Your reasoning is flawed, you don't loose knowledge of cooking if you get free, healthy meals at your school. In fact, your gain knowledge about what to eat, what's good to eat e.t.c, and most importantly you make it a habit to eat healthy food instead of fast food shit. Who do you think learns more about cooking healthy meals, a kid who gets some extremely sugary breakfast, a pizza or hamburger for lunch and fast food for dinner, or a kid who gets to eat a variation of healthy food each day? And why would they learn cooking better if they were served food at home instead of at school? At home it's either ordering from a fast food restaurant or the parents cook, it's not very often children get to do the meals on their own. Finally, why the hell are you even complaining about this? It offers 3 free, completely optional and healthy meals to children. [B]How is that bad?[/B] Are you this stupid for real, or trolling? "Buhu, they're giving us free things, fucking communists."[/QUOTE] Rated Bad reading X12 Have you not been reading my posts? *Sigh* Okay, parents already leave their children at daycare. Those same parents would more than likely see these new programs as less they need to do for their kids. Others may see this as government telling them what their kids should eat because of Michelle's comment: ‘We Can’t Just Leave it Up to The Parents'. You could also watch this video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZeQEDOvDA[/media] [url]http://video.foxnews.com/v/4458020/new-school-lunch-plan/[/url]
[QUOTE=Glaber;26696338]Rated Bad reading X12 Have you not been reading my posts? *Sigh* Okay, parents already leave their children at daycare. Those same parents would more than likely see these new programs as less they need to do for their kids. Others may see this as government telling them what their kids should eat because of Michelle's comment: ‘We Can’t Just Leave it Up to The Parents'. You could also watch this video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZeQEDOvDA[/media] [url]http://video.foxnews.com/v/4458020/new-school-lunch-plan/[/url][/QUOTE] Honestly, I'm done arguing with you. You have no capacity to understand something someone says as possibly being anything else than what Rush or Mark Levin or whatever right-wing talking head you're sucking off this week is ranting about. You know what Michelle Obama meant by her quote? "We can't just leave it up to the parents [to make sure their kids eat right, we need to provide healthy meals for children in schools too]." I'm as left-wing as they come, but I can take a controversial quote and understand what the guy was trying to say instead of what Keith Olbermann or whoever wants me to think they meant without acting like a complete fuckwad about the whole thing.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26696541]Honestly, I'm done arguing with you. You have no capacity to understand something someone says as possibly being anything else than what Rush or Mark Levin or whatever right-wing talking head you're sucking off this week is ranting about. [B]You know what Michelle Obama meant by her quote? "We can't just leave it up to the parents [to make sure their kids eat right, we need to provide healthy meals for children in schools too]."[/B] I'm as left-wing as they come, but I can take a controversial quote and understand what the guy was trying to say instead of what Keith Olbermann or whoever wants me to think they meant without acting like a complete fuckwad about the whole thing.[/QUOTE] That's only a part of it. From the sounds of he quote, she doesn't even trust parents at home too. Why else expand the program to Breakfast and dinner? Of course this also sounds like she doesn't trust parents to pack kids a healthy lunch either. Someone else can answer.
I want you to find a source that isn't fox news. Isn't rush limbaugh, or glenn beck. I'm not saying go dig around MSNBC, but find something that doesn't say everything related to obama with wide, dead eyes and a disgusted sneer on her mouth. I want ONE conversation that doesn't lead to releasing prisoners from guantanamo bay or military training of our children. We are talking about forcing schools to provide better food, not forcing children to eat rations and enlist in the services.
[QUOTE=Glaber;26696691]That's only a part of it. From the sounds of he quote, she doesn't even trust parents at home too. Why else expand the program to Breakfast and dinner? Of course this also sounds like she doesn't trust parents to pack kids a healthy lunch either. Someone else can answer.[/QUOTE] [quote]“Everywhere I go, fortunately, I meet parents who are working very hard to make sure that their kids are healthy,” said Mrs. Obama. “They’re doing things like cutting down on desserts and trying to increase fruits and vegetables. They’re trying to teach their kids the kind of healthy habits that will stay with them for a lifetime. “But when our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, and when many children get up to half their daily calories from school meals, it’s clear that we as a nation have a responsibility to meet as well,” Mrs. Obama said. “We can’t just leave it up to the parents. I think that parents have a right to expect that their efforts at home won’t be undone each day in the school cafeteria or in the vending machine in the hallway. I think that our parents have a right to expect that their kids will be served fresh, healthy food that meets high nutritional standards.”[/quote] Wow you seemed to have left this on page 2. This has been pointed out to you multiple times but you refuse to listen. She meant in addition. This is aimed at helping parents. The government is not trying to come into their lives and tell them what they can feed their kids oh my god :doh:
[QUOTE=Glaber;26696691]That's only a part of it. From the sounds of he quote, she doesn't even trust parents at home too. Why else expand the program to Breakfast and dinner? Of course this also sounds like she doesn't trust parents to pack kids a healthy lunch either. Someone else can answer.[/QUOTE] She wants the free lunch (not all school lunches, just free lunches for those who already qualify for free lunches) program to also extend to breakfast and dinner. What's your opposition to that? It's optional, you illiterate moron. Nobody's forcing your kid to eat school lunches.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26696742]I want you to find a source that isn't fox news. Isn't rush limbaugh, or glenn beck. I'm not saying go dig around MSNBC, but find something that doesn't say everything related to obama with wide, dead eyes and a disgusted sneer on her mouth. I want ONE conversation that doesn't lead to releasing prisoners from guantanamo bay or military training of our children. We are talking about forcing schools to provide better food, not forcing children to eat rations and enlist in the services.[/QUOTE] Fine, here's an MSNBC article. [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40637301[/url] And a couple more from CNN [url]http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2010/12/13/president-obama-signs-healthy-hunger-free-kids-act-of-2010-into-law/?iref=allsearch[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/13/child.nutrition/index.html?iref=allsearch[/url]
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