• Stupid blonde bitch says pepperspray "is a food product essentially"
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[QUOTE=Bobv2;33381725]You answered yes to my question "is the mere utterance of the word racist?" This means that the fact you [i]typed[/i] the word nigger means you're racist.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you guys talking about?
"The mere utterance of the word nigger is racist, yes, I agree with that premise, but it isn't racist when I say it."
Um I never even said or implied anything of that sort.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33381682]fucking wonderful, yes, [B]we know it's racist[/B] that doesn't mean shit because it's used jokingly[/QUOTE]Exactly. When someone calls her a stupid bitch, all of the other meanings of the the term "bitch" are ignored and it simply becomes an amplifier of the overall insult regardless of what it may mean.
Holy shit. Give me an answer to this question then: Is the mere utterance of the word "nigger" racist? Y/N?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33381743]Sure sounds like you changed the path you were on about halfway through this discussion. Sure sounds like you were criticizing him for using the term, rather than "I know it's racist but yeah you were joking lol ok"[/QUOTE] Where did I change my argument? I'm criticizing the use of a term towards a person, not the "mere utterance of a term" wow holy fuck this aint hard [editline]22nd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobv2;33381768]Holy shit. Give me an answer to this question then: Is the mere utterance of the word "nigger" racist? Y/N?[/QUOTE] no. do you really not understand what I have been saying the last few pages? your question is not relevant.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33381644][QUOTE=Bobv2;33381452]Are you now going to suggest that the mere utterance of the word is racist?[/QUOTE]Nigger is a racial slur. what do you think[/QUOTE] he's talking about this, taken literally
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33381757]Exactly. When someone calls her a stupid bitch, all of the other meanings of the the term "bitch" are ignored and it simply becomes an amplifier of the overall insult regardless of what it may mean.[/QUOTE] what about with a racial slur? is it then just an amplifier of an overall insult?
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33381770]Where did I change my argument? I'm criticizing the use of a term towards a person, not the "mere utterance of a term" wow holy fuck this aint hard[/QUOTE] well shit it sure sounds like you're calling him racist for calling his friend a nigger [B][U][I]EXTREMELY JOKINGLY[/I][/U][/B] which is dumb
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33381780]he's talking about this, taken literally[/QUOTE] he didn't understand the context or is taking it out of context.
Is the mere utterance of the word "nigger" racist? Y/N? Because it looks like we're going to have to do this super simple.
[QUOTE=thisispain;33381704]well here's the thing the person can't feel bad because they don't hear the insults so uh why even bother?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=chunkymonkey;33381708]I'm sure she feels terrible knowing some people on a site she has and never will hear about called her a dumb bitch.[/QUOTE]Its the simple expression of it. No one has any expectations that she'll ever actually perceive the insult. It just the expression of it.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33381787]what about with a racial slur? is it then just an amplifier of an overall insult?[/QUOTE] it depends okay is there a connotation in [I]this particular use of the word[/I] which is that "because you are a member of this group you are bad"
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33381792]well shit it sure sounds like you're calling him racist for calling his friend a nigger [B][U][I]EXTREMELY JOKINGLY[/I][/U][/B][/QUOTE] I didn't call him racist.
This is a goddamn Simpsons gag. I laughed at a cartoon character believing this exact thing when I was a wee lad. I just. [i]Just...[/i]
I'm still waiting for a concise, unambiguous answer.
[QUOTE=Bobv2;33381801]Is the mere utterance of the word "nigger" racist? Y/N? Because it looks like we're going to have to do this super simple.[/QUOTE] I've already answered your question numerous times and addressed why it's nonsense and irrelevant. stop talking down to others, thanks!
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33381806]I didn't call him racist.[/QUOTE] [quote]Hahahaha. Way to negate your argument entirely by outright saying you'd be openly racist towards someone and circumstantially saying it's okay. Bigotry isn't circumstantial.[/quote] you're saying he's being racist, therefore he is a racist no? then you pasted on that bit about "circumstantially saying it's okay" to negate the idea that the jokeful nature of the conversation lessens it, so you can't really say that now
Guys, we all know we need iron since it works as a prosthetic group for hemoglobin so that we can transport O2 and CO2. Therefore, iron bullets are food products essentially.
You've done nothing but dodge. If you didn't, tell me your answer just once more time because I'm a dense motherfucker.
[QUOTE=Bobv2;33381833]You've done nothing but dodge. If you didn't, tell me your answer just once more time because I'm a dense motherfucker.[/QUOTE] i haven't dodged anything and have refuted everything. you've got no support for that claim. read. "no. do you really not understand what I have been saying the last few pages? your question is not relevant."
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33381787]what about with a racial slur? is it then just an amplifier of an overall insult?[/QUOTE]Yes. It doesn't matter who that person is, be they white, black, male, female, or whatever. The insult is that they are a "Stupid individual" and the additives simply are there to amplify the effect on the recipient of that insult. They choose something that will increase the effect because that word has some significance for whatever reason to the recipient. If they thought the insult would work better if they said "You're a purple lightbulb." then they'd probably use that.
Bobv2 you did sorta go off a bit with that "mere utterance" stuff
Sorry, that edit did not show up on my browser. My bad. So you do recognize that intent does play a role in the way the use of a word should be judged?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33381827]you're saying he's being racist, therefore he is a racist no? then you pasted on that bit about "circumstantially saying it's okay" to negate the idea that the jokeful nature of the conversation lessens it, so you can't really say that now[/QUOTE] the action, I stated, was racist. I'm considering that to be different from calling someone "a racist" because of what defining someone as "a racist" implies. I haven't been clear about that, my bad. [editline]22nd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobv2;33381863]Sorry, that edit did not show up on my browser. My bad. So you do recognize that intent does play a role in the way the use of a word should be judged?[/QUOTE] I guess I'm not being clear and if so then that's a failing on my part. I'm saying that the use of it towards someone, regardless of intent or seriousness, is still using it as a racist term. Maybe you'll think that to be semantics but even if so, it matters I think.
I'm sorry, the first time I asked the question, you gave an affirmative sounding answer so it confused me when you seemed to argue against your own stance.
Whenever I see this woman I think she's a Cylon :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33381847]Yes. It doesn't matter who that person is, be they white, black, male, female, or whatever. The insult is that they are a "Stupid individual" and the additives simply are there to amplify the effect on the recipient of that insult. They choose something that will increase the effect because that word has some significance for whatever reason to the recipient. If they thought the insult would work better if they said "You're a purple lightbulb." then they'd probably use that.[/QUOTE] I disagree. If you're tacking on a racial slur as an addition to enhance an insult, then that's changing the meaning of it.
[quote]regardless of intent or seriousness, is still using it as a racist term[/quote] This is where I'm running into trouble. This would support the notion that you believe the mere utterance of the word is racist.
[QUOTE=Bobv2;33381880]I'm sorry, the first time I asked the question, you gave an affirmative sounding answer so it confused me when you seemed to argue against your own stance.[/QUOTE] It was quick and vague.
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