• Just when Justin Bieber thinks he out of trouble: Justin Bieber post photo of himself at Japanese WW
    156 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;44630589]Well maybe someone should let the Vietnam Veterans Memorial shrine know how stupid and disgusting it is to commemorate people who committed immoral acts against certain Vietnamese. Every country has had members of it's military commit immoral acts.[/QUOTE] very few countries have had members of it's military commit acts of the scale of some of the japanese war crimes in ww2, and i'm sure even less of those countries openly commemorate said members [editline]24th April 2014[/editline] although i think someone said it's a privately ran shrine so i guess it's less the country commemorating it (even though japan has been pretty shit at acknowledging some of the shit it did during ww2) and more just some jackasses
[QUOTE=27X;44629666]Because the shrine is offensive. The attendant museum for it is called "The musuem of the war to [B]prevent the expansion of western colonialism and liberate Asia."[/B] That's the actual fucking name. Japan has never taken responsibility for its action in WW2, and they committed atrocities on the same level as the Nazis did. Tacitly supporting something is pretty much the same thing. Government officials make publicized pilgrimages there all the time. Japan, the government, has been led by at least three convicted war criminals. Did they just [I]accidentally[/I] get elected? right.[/QUOTE] No they don't make publicized pilgrimages there all the time, and when they do go they are only going for "personal visits" AKA when they sign the guest log or whatever they sign it as their name, and state the occasion is always as a private citizen and not the Prime Minister or something. The only reason it's publicized is because there's an outrage among certain groups whenever someone goes on their own time who just so happens to be involved in the government. Also, it's important to note that the Yushukan (museum) is a seperate entity from the Yasukuni shrine and I was specifically speaking of the Yushukan not the Yasukuni shrine in that quote.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44630600]very few countries have had members of it's military commit acts of the scale of some of the japanese war crimes in ww2, and i'm sure even less of those countries openly commemorate said members[/QUOTE] So you're applying a quantitative analysis on whether or not it is appropriate to have places of commemoration? You're stating that because the acts committed by the Americans were on a smaller scale means that its acceptable? Shouldn't any life that is taken be labeled as unacceptable? Why do the Americans get excused and have their shrines unquestioned?
[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;44631128]So you're applying a quantitative analysis on whether or not it is appropriate to have places of commemoration? You're stating that because the acts committed by the Americans were on a smaller scale means that its acceptable? Shouldn't any life that is taken be labeled as unacceptable? Why do the Americans get excused and have their shrines unquestioned?[/QUOTE] well if it's any consolation i don't think the perpetrators of my-lai and other massacres deserve any form of commemoration
[QUOTE=Griffster26;44628920]Hirohito wasn't a bad guy, Tojo was bad, Hirohito was just a puppet for the junta to give people a face to believe in rather than a bunch of generals.[/QUOTE] He was also a very willing puppet. While I don't think Hirohitho is a bad person, I don't think it would be a stretch to call him a willing collaborator involved in the Japanese war of aggression.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;44632411]He was also a very willing puppet. While I don't think Hirohitho is a bad person, I don't think it would be a stretch to call him a willing collaborator involved in the Japanese war of aggression.[/QUOTE] He collaborated enough that he should have been imprisoned for some time.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.