US Treasury Department replacing Andrew Hamilton with unnamed woman on $10 bill in 2020
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[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47994185]I really don't think we've ever been this politically tense (other than around the civil war) before[/quote]
uhhhhh what
we're more tense now than during the 2008 stock market crash + elections? the war not even a decade ago? come on, what you're saying is not going to happen at all, no chance in hell it will even get close to it
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47994172]you're getting paranoid over nothing, dude. this "risk" is so minor every other risk is offended by you calling it that[/QUOTE]
Really? Because people are already saying the reason they are replacing Hamilton instead of Jackson is because Hamilton was a Republican and Jackson was a Democrat (since everyone thinks Hamilton was more important to the country than Jackson). I know that this is stupid, but with the way politics are right now, I would not be surprised at all if this minor, tiny issue becomes the next "big issue".
[QUOTE=Rocket;47994182]No, it won't. There are no cashiers who are going to say "sorry, we don't accept $10 bills with women on them." There is nobody who will say "damn, I can't spend this $10 bill because it has a feeeemale on it!" The economy will not crash because there is a woman on the bill. You don't have to come up with these ridiculous scenarios to justify hating this decision.[/QUOTE]
I don't hate the decision, I can just see a shitstorm starting that never needed to be started in the first place.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47994220]Really? Because people are already saying the reason they are replacing Hamilton instead of Jackson is because Hamilton was a Republican and Jackson was a Democrat (since everyone thinks Hamilton was more important to the country than Jackson). I know that this is stupid, but with the way politics are right now, I would not be surprised at all if this minor, tiny issue becomes the next "big issue".[/QUOTE]
yeah and texas was saying they were gonna secede not long ago yet it seems like people made a bigger deal out of the 2012 doomsday prediction than that
Harriet Tubman pls
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47994220]Really? Because people are already saying the reason they are replacing Hamilton instead of Jackson is because Hamilton was a Republican and Jackson was a Democrat (since everyone thinks Hamilton was more important to the country than Jackson).[/QUOTE]
I don't think most Americans know who either person was
I just want them to update the $1 bill to make it look nicer.
Like look at the $5 bill compared to the $1 bill:
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[t]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GyDfXXeBtik/USRSYwzwjxI/AAAAAAAAFD8/cMUFhCLbM8c/s1600/Onedolar2009series.jpg[/t]
The top got changed in 2008, the bottom got changed in [I]1963[/I]. Get with the times yo.
Seriously, the $2 bill is more recent than the $1 one.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47993977]This probably wouldnt go over well. Our government and native americans do not like each other.[/QUOTE]
Yeah we have Sacagawea but she's basically regarded as a traitor
[QUOTE=Rocket;47994226]Let's say that your paranoia is correct and we will devolve into Mad Max if this happens. Should we just sit back, hands tied, because the conservatives won't let a woman be on a dollar bill?[/QUOTE]
You're right, I don't think it necessarily WILL go that far, but things are unpredictable. I also never thought the government would let itself shutdown either.
Also, you're saying that the problem is a woman being on the bill. The majority of conservatives don't mind that. They are just starting to wonder why Jackson is not the one being replaced, since Hamilton did more great things for this country as a founding father, while Jackson actually did some not-so-great things.
They should replace Jackson with Hamilton if this goes through. Jackson was an asshole.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47994263]You're right, I don't think it necessarily WILL go that far, but things are unpredictable.[/QUOTE]
it's not that hard to predict that something that has never ever happened in the past probably won't happen now
I still maintain that Jefferson Davis belongs on a bill. He was the foremost leader of the Confederacy, and, as we all know, his losing the Civil War had an enormous impact on the shape of the US government- it ensured, once and for all, that the Federal government would reign supreme over the states.
And as an added bonus, he and Abraham Lincoln could stare each other down in people's wallets
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47994266]They should replace Jackson with Hamilton if this goes through. Jackson was an asshole.[/QUOTE]
Here's my Lineup:
$1 - Ronald Reagan. The best president in history deserves the most common currency so everyone will see his face all the time
$2 - Richard Nixon. It's metaphorical; the president who took us off the gold standard and made our currency worthless is the one on the bill that nobody will accept because they're not sure it's real. If we didn't drop the gold standard, the $2 bill would be more popular.
$5 - Thomas Edison. We should put him on because he beat the goddamned Russkis. Though Tesla had a vastly superior Alternating Current, Edison stuck to his metaphorical, american made, 2nd amendment guaranteed, Direct Current guns, and eventually Tesla died like all Russians: Alone and with a bottle of potato vodka in his hand. True American hero.
$10 - Douglas MacArthur. Since China's GDP is 10 trillion, the $10 bill will have the face of the man who could have prevented it: Douglas MacArthur. If we had just nuked the godless bastards back in Korea like MacArthur wanted, we'd still have our manufacturing jobs.
$20 - Jefferson Davis. Who else can say they fought for his country by fighting against it? "It's takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies; but a great deal more to stand up to your friends" - Gandalf
$50 - Herbert Hoover. Hoover did the country good by not giving into communist pressure and doing anything about the great depression like his godless predecessor, FDR, did. Instead, he insisted again and again that what we need now is LESS regulation. God was simply smiting America for ending slavery and for prohibiting alcohol.
$100 - Ben Franklin. Of course, I'm going to leave the 100th president on the $100 bill
$100,000,000,000,000 zimbabwe note clone - Barrack Obama. Obviously the bill most associated with hyperinflation should bear the mark of the president most associated with hyperinflation
[QUOTE=proboardslol;47994167]I agree about the military, though I think you should know that grace hopper invented the compiler.
I think we should have more scientists on our money. We should have less of a cult around our military[/QUOTE]
She has an important place in history, but the public would agree more on having a non-military member on the currency. I'm expecting a female who had a large impact on the people rather than the sciences.
Rosa Parks should be in the running.
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;47994285]I still maintain that Jefferson Davis belongs on a bill. He was the foremost leader of the Confederacy, and, as we all know, his losing the Civil War had an enormous impact on the shape of the US government- it ensured, once and for all, that the Federal government would reign supreme over the states.
And as an added bonus, he and Abraham Lincoln could stare each other down in people's wallets[/QUOTE]
I agree. In fact, we ought to go one step further and put a picture of Alabama Governor George Wallace blocking black students from entering University of Alabama. Without him, we might not have been able to conclusively decide that blacks and whites ought to go to the same school. Truly a visionary
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[QUOTE=Code3Response;47994362]She has an important place in history, but the public would agree more on having a non-military member on the currency.[/QUOTE]
You underestimate the jingoism of Americans.
[QUOTE=usaokay;47993698]I still vote for Anita Sarkeesian.[/QUOTE]
To my knowledge you have to be dead to be on us money, what that implies is up to your intwrpritation
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The real problem is finding American historical figures who had good portraits done so artists can create something for the bill
[QUOTE=Sableye;47994399]To my knowledge you have to be dead to be on us money, what that implies is up to your intwrpritation
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the first bills obviously had portraits on then and some of the people were living.
you only think that because you haven't changed whos on the bills in decades.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47994462]No notes after the Civil War (i.e. our current kind of bill) have been issued with portraits of people while they were alive.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that basically what I just said? However, The first one dollar bill was issued with a secretary of treasurer on it, who was still alive at the time.
Either way, there's no reason you couldn't have a living person on the bill.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;47994422]the first bills obviously had portraits on then and some of the people were living.
you only think that because you haven't changed whos on the bills in decades.[/QUOTE]
No, us currency usually had some building and a statue of some kind, not actual portraits, that only came about in the last hundred or so years
betsy ross for 10$ bill
[QUOTE=Wii60;47994527]betsy ross for 10$ bill[/QUOTE]
Fuck it, put Betty White on the $10 bill.
[QUOTE=The freeman;47994534]Fuck it, put Betty White on the $10 bill.[/QUOTE]
I can get behind this. That woman's a national treasure.
[QUOTE=The freeman;47994534]Fuck it, put Betty White on the $10 bill.[/QUOTE]
hate to spoil the fun, but the person has to be deceased in order to even be considered eligible
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47994581]hate to spoil the fun, but the person has to be deceased in order to even be considered eligible[/QUOTE]
I'll be more than happy to wait.....
Can we put a female pikachu on it? With a mustache of course.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;47994342]Here's my Lineup:
$1 - Ronald Reagan. The best president in history deserves the most common currency so everyone will see his face all the time
$2 - Richard Nixon. It's metaphorical; the president who took us off the gold standard and made our currency worthless is the one on the bill that nobody will accept because they're not sure it's real. If we didn't drop the gold standard, the $2 bill would be more popular.
$5 - Thomas Edison. We should put him on because he beat the goddamned Russkis. Though Tesla had a vastly superior Alternating Current, Edison stuck to his metaphorical, american made, 2nd amendment guaranteed, Direct Current guns, and eventually Tesla died like all Russians: Alone and with a bottle of potato vodka in his hand. True American hero.
$10 - Douglas MacArthur. Since China's GDP is 10 trillion, the $10 bill will have the face of the man who could have prevented it: Douglas MacArthur. If we had just nuked the godless bastards back in Korea like MacArthur wanted, we'd still have our manufacturing jobs.
$20 - Jefferson Davis. Who else can say they fought for his country by fighting against it? "It's takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies; but a great deal more to stand up to your friends" - Gandalf
$50 - Herbert Hoover. Hoover did the country good by not giving into communist pressure and doing anything about the great depression like his godless predecessor, FDR, did. Instead, he insisted again and again that what we need now is LESS regulation. God was simply smiting America for ending slavery and for prohibiting alcohol.
$100 - Ben Franklin. Of course, I'm going to leave the 100th president on the $100 bill
$100,000,000,000,000 zimbabwe note clone - Barrack Obama. Obviously the bill most associated with hyperinflation should bear the mark of the president most associated with hyperinflation[/QUOTE]
How un-American of you. You forgot Davy Crockett and John Wayne.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47994362]She has an important place in history, but the public would agree more on having a non-military member on the currency. I'm expecting a female who had a large impact on the people rather than the sciences.
Rosa Parks should be in the running.[/QUOTE]
She invented the first the first programming compiler and didn't retire until she was nearly 80 years old. She retired as a Rear Admiral and she was the 5th oldest Commissioned Officer in the history of the United States Navy. Accomplishments in the
military and in computing are not frequently associated with women, and Grace Hopper is fantastic figure to give women recognition in both of these fields.
Your opinion to want to represent individuals who've had greater impact on society and sociology is a fine one, and I wouldn't mind supporting a woman who's impressed me in that regard, but your opinion on members of the military comes off as very conceded and naive. Not every service member is a warmonger, many join for the opportunity for greater education and experience.
In the middle of World War 2 Grace Hopper joined the Navy Reserve and graduated top of her class. She was stationed at Harvard University and worked on the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Mark_I"]Harvard Mark I[/URL]. After this she remained in the reserves but joined a private computer company where she created the world's first compiler, and shortly after became the company's Director of Automatic Programming. Near the turn of the decade of 1960 she attended the first [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CODASYL"]CODASYL[/URL], at this conference she declared a need for programming languages that mirrored English and under her advisory [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL"]COBOL[/URL] was created, the grandfather of all high level programming languages. Because of her accomplishments so far she was given the position of director of the Navy Programming Languages Group, where in the next decade she campaigned for computer standardization leading to the birth of the US's [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Standards_and_Technology"]National Institute of Standards and Technology[/URL] from the previous National Bureau of Standards. She retired for the first from the Reserves in 1966, but accepted two callbacks and finally retired in 1986 and was awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal. After retiring she spent most of her time as a educator, giving lectures on computers and programming.
[quote]The most important thing I've accomplished, other than building the compiler, is training young people. They come to me, you know, and say, 'Do you think we can do this?' I say, "Try it." And I back 'em up. They need that. I keep track of them as they get older and I stir 'em up at intervals so they don't forget to take chances.[/quote]
At this point I think I need to emphasize how revolutionary the first compiler was;
[quote]"Nobody believed that," she said. "I had a running compiler and nobody would touch it. They told me computers could only do arithmetic."[/quote]
This completely changed how computers worked and how we used computers; Beforehand computers could only input and output numbers, but because of Grace computers could now interpret them, and we had the power to choose how.
She is not some salty military member, she is the individual who is responsible for the technology to even code the Apollo mission. This should be a thread to share and remember important women in the history of the United States, not to belittle them.
It's true that most of the general public wouldn't really understand or be able to properly recognize the magnitude of her work, but there are children learning computer science in elementary school now and she is the perfect role model for the future computer engineers, especially since it is a field foreign to women.
Aunt Jemima
[QUOTE=usaokay;47993757]Yeah, but who wants to have a woman who is more than 100 years old and weighs over 200 tons?[/QUOTE]
Just make up some bullshit like we did with the flag and what the colors represent
The 100 years stands for how liberty and justice doesn't age, and 200 tons stands for how unwavering it is
I don't fuckin' know
If it were up to me, I'd put the first people out of the lunar landers in each Apollo mission on each bill, or replace portraits altogether with the mission patches. It is Mankind's greatest achievement, after all
Put the Queen on it, problem solved.
[QUOTE=The freeman;47994253]I just want them to update the $1 bill to make it look nicer.
Like look at the $5 bill compared to the $1 bill:
[t]http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/IiC1PRyIT9m8Fu7XkO5A_5_Dollar_Bill.jpg[/t]
[t]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GyDfXXeBtik/USRSYwzwjxI/AAAAAAAAFD8/cMUFhCLbM8c/s1600/Onedolar2009series.jpg[/t]
The top got changed in 2008, the bottom got changed in [I]1963[/I]. Get with the times yo.
Seriously, the $2 bill is more recent than the $1 one.[/QUOTE]
The one dollar bill is pretty much icon status right now though. Changing that would be like modernizing the architecture on the Empire State Building. The overall design of the $1 is actually older than the Empire State Building, and older than the one dollar bill itself. A very similar design was used on Silver Certificates in the 1920's.
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