• Drinking more than a pint of beer's worth of alcohol daily "raises cancer risk"
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[QUOTE=DogGunn;29052193]That's wine, it's not the alcohol, and is heavily debated about that truth or not.[/QUOTE] Wine has already been proven, this has been done with beer several times. I've read it in TONS of books.
Good thing beer's disgusting.
[quote]Wine has already been proven, this has been done with beer several times. I've read it in TONS of books.[/quote] Please cite any source for this. And not just a book or article that says it, an actual study, that also shows its methodology.
[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;29052219]Please cite any source for this. And not just a book or article that says it, an actual study, that also shows its methodology.[/QUOTE] [url]http://bavarianbrewerytech.com/news/hattackstudy.htm[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/727912.stm[/url] [url]http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Beer-has-heart-health-properties-too[/url] [url]http://forums.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums//showthread.php?t=33142[/url] [url]http://beer.about.com/od/beernutrition/a/beernutrition.htm[/url] [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/01/030101223233.htm[/url] That help?
[QUOTE=faze;29052202]Wine has already been proven, this has been done with beer several times. I've read it in TONS of books.[/QUOTE] There are also plentiful studies saying the opposite. It's a very heavily debated topic. One thing both sides say: Don't drink it to get healthy
[QUOTE=Dr. Punchgroin;29052134]Who the hell drinks a fucking PINT of beer anyway? EVERY DAY?[/QUOTE] British people
[QUOTE=James*;29052268]British people[/QUOTE] Germans, Irish, just part of culture. Respect beer, don't fear it.
[QUOTE=Killuah;29049633]19k posts. After the cleaning of the database.[/QUOTE] Only depends on when you started posting really
[QUOTE=NeuFeX;29052212]Good thing beer's disgusting.[/QUOTE] Are you 10?
[QUOTE=Foxxy :3;29052363]Are you 10?[/QUOTE] 10 year olds won't have a taste for beer :|
[QUOTE=faze;29052235][url]http://bavarianbrewerytech.com/news/hattackstudy.htm[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/727912.stm[/url] [url]http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Beer-has-heart-health-properties-too[/url] [url]http://forums.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums//showthread.php?t=33142[/url] [url]http://beer.about.com/od/beernutrition/a/beernutrition.htm[/url] [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/01/030101223233.htm[/url] That help?[/QUOTE] Ok, of those that actually referred to studies, they are articles stemming from a dutch study of 19 people, and a seperate but similar Israeli study of 48 men looking at whether drinking beer will lower cholesterol among other things. It has some debatably beneficial effects on some aspects of blood chemistry, which meant a bunch of articles saying it reduces heart disease. I'm not contesting whether Beer can have beneficial effects on blood chemistry (although I've seen better studies). The study I posted refers to the effects of Alcohol on the prevalence of cancer, with the quantity of alcohol needed to create a statistically significant difference in cancer incidence being around that of drinking a pint of beer a day. Your discussion of the effects of Beer (not alcohol) on blood chemistry does not refute this.
(not) cool fact: 1/5 of all humans on earth will get cancer
[QUOTE=Mattk50;29050301]because ingesting large quantities of harmfull drugs makes for a good party[/QUOTE] Not really no. I dunno if you completely missed my point and thought that was what I was saying or what.
[QUOTE=faze;29052235][url]http://bavarianbrewerytech.com/news/hattackstudy.htm[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/727912.stm[/url] [url]http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Beer-has-heart-health-properties-too[/url] [url]http://forums.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums//showthread.php?t=33142[/url] [url]http://beer.about.com/od/beernutrition/a/beernutrition.htm[/url] [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/01/030101223233.htm[/url] That help?[/QUOTE] The this or that expensive product protects against something or other is rubbish. What is proven is that consumption of whatever product is correlated with a healthier lifestyle. Which could be caused by any one of millions of factors. This is the first The second link explicitly says "Any research about the various health-giving properties of different types of alcohol is a bit of a red herring as the effect is usually marginal and restricted to a very small group of people under certain circumstances." The third does not measure the outcome of coronary heart disease. This is a surrogate outcome (i think?) and while these factors may be linked, theres no solid evidence which shows that lowering or increasing one of them will definitively do something or other The fourth link says that alcohol is unhealthy for you, you should drink alcohol-less beer, The fifth link is all words and no facts, he just comes out with a conclusion after saying beer is not fattening, and in the sixth, while the other two factors *may* be linked to reduced heart disease (surrogate variables or what have you), antioxidants themselves have been proven to have no effect on things, and in the case of beta carotene at least, they actually increase your risk of cancer Mind posting some real evidence?
[quote][B]40 to 98%[/B] occur in people who drink more than the recommended maximum.[/quote] Wide net you're casting there. If you give me $20, there is a 40 to 98% chance of me paying it back with interest. 98%, what a great deal! [editline]9th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Foxxy :3;29052363]Are you 10?[/QUOTE] Beer is definitely terrible. [quote]10 year olds won't have a taste for beer :|[/quote] And you call yourself Australian. Pathetic.
"Life kills you, hurr" So I guess that means you have no reason to evaluate the risk of anything you do, huh?
That's a bit steep, on the grand scale of things there are much bigger risks to evaluate in life than drinking a beer or not.
Inasmuch as I am trying to dictate anyone's behaviour by posting this study (I'm not), I would say only to avoid drinking excessively. Don't binge, and don't drink heavily every day for long periods.
What doesn't cause cancer? The word itself is cancerous
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;29049502]Yeah, I too just sit in front of the computer all day, not exercising eating unhealthy food. So much better for me.[/QUOTE] I wonder why you put that "too" in there.
[QUOTE=The very best;29049462]What doesn't cause cancer, seriously[/QUOTE] Going outside? Oh wait, UV radiation.
Everything gives you a cancer these days. Expect a cancer?
Worth it.
Being paranoid about all the things that could give you cancer, gives you cancer.
[QUOTE=Buxton-SG;29053997]Being paranoid about all the things that could give you cancer, gives you cancer.[/QUOTE] Damn hypochondriacs...
[QUOTE=The very best;29049462]What doesn't cause cancer, seriously[/QUOTE] Not everyone in the world dies of a cancer related illness. Booze everyday is not healthy anyway, people should know that by now.
I don't drink, don't really want to either. I guess I can't really see the appeal of alcohol, but whatever floats your boat.
everything gives you cancer these days why give a shit just do what you enjoy and stop worrying about every single little thing.
Drinking a beer as i'm typing this post, while snusing. I can feel the impending tumorage. <3
I can't get my cancer from UV so I have to get it other ways.
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