[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273320]Personally i would prefer a kickstarter to send me to Indonesia, so that i would apply for political asylum at the DPRKs Jakarta embassy.[/QUOTE]
You live in the fucking Gold Coast, a beautiful place that has beautiful beaches, women and great opportunities and you want to ditch that to go to North Korea which has shit housing, a terrible government, brainwashed people and heavily censored and influenced media
Again, you live in the GOLD COAST, I've been there and I love going there it's a great place I love the atmosphere especially in twin towns that place is gorgeous and the restaurants are fantastic, you won't find that shit anywhere in NK
Another thing, are you at all a member of the Communist Party of Australia, I'll be surprised if you say no
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273525]I have had contact with representatives of the Committee for Cultural Relations with Foreign Countries (High Ministry).
If i was not 100% positive that i would have zero problems in applying for political asylum within the DPRK, then i would not even be considering it.
[url]http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/s-korea-troops-kill-man-trying-swim-north[/url][/QUOTE]
Why would you want to go there, how is it any better than where you are currently living?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42273529]Who would want to escape from glorious DPRK to capitalist imperialist US?[/QUOTE]
While the DPRK is perfect in every conceivable way possible. There are some issues.
[url]http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2009/eap/135995.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/north-korea?page=1[/url]
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/world/main4555614.shtml?source=RSSattr=World_4555614[/url]
[quote]An said he served as a guard and driver at four camps before defecting in 1994. If a female inmate got pregnant, he said, she and her lover would be shot to death publicly. Then, An said, prison guards would cut open her womb, remove the fetus and bury it or feed it to guard dogs.[/quote]
[url]http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA24/001/2011/en/2671e54f-1cd1-46c1-96f1-6a463efa6f65/asa240012011en.pdf[/url]
[quote]Between the ages of 13 and 16, Shin recalled: “I was forced to undertake dangerous work and
saw many children killed in work. Sometimes, four to five children were killed in a day. On one
occasion, I saw eight people killed by an accident. Three men were working high up on a tall
cement wall, three 15-year-old girls and two boys were helping them with mortar below. I was
carrying mortar to the children when I saw the cement wall falling. Eight were buried under
many tons of mortar; there was no rescue. Instead, the security officers told us not to stop
work.[/quote]
[url]http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/09/18/2644061/dprk-prisons-nazi-camps/[/url]
[quote]“We heard from ordinary people who faced torture and imprisonment for doing nothing more than watching foreign soap operas or holding a religious belief,” Kirby told the Human Rights Council on Tuesday in an oral update on his team’s work. “Women and men who exercised their human right to leave the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea] and were forcibly repatriated spoke about their experiences of torture, sexual violence, inhumane treatment and arbitrary detention.”[/quote]
Honestly I expect this to happen to RAYHALO someday.
[url]http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20130502-419752.html[/url]
Is that where all that drug money is going
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42273635]you live in the GOLD COAST, I've been there and I love going there it's a great place I love the atmosphere especially in twin towns that place is gorgeous and the restaurants are fantastic, you won't find that shit anywhere in NK[/QUOTE]
The Gold Coast is indeed a nice place to live if you enjoy.
1. Rampant consumerism
2. False consciousness
3. Hooliganism
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42273635]Another thing, are you at all a member of the Communist Party of Australia, I'll be surprised if you say no[/QUOTE]
I have stated before that i am a member of the CPA.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273701]The Gold Coast is indeed a nice place to live if you enjoy.
1. Rampant consumerism
2. False consciousness
3. Hooliganism
I have stated before that i am a member of the CPA.[/QUOTE]
1. Welcome to Capitalism and honestly it works, its a shit system but while Communism and Socialism sound good on paper they are poorly implanted and the leaders are always paranoid
2. I don't feel this but whatever
3. I never see Hooliganism when I'm up there, just lovely people strolling by while I do my business, you can't blame a whole city for being dickheads its just the couple of tools here and there that ruin it, you'll find them in any Communist country like it or not
btw the CPA will get nowhere, the original party was better but this party is shit, one place in the NSW state senate wow-wee what an accomplishment
I don't think you can even call North Korea a communist country.
Rayhalo, you're great!
[editline]22nd September 2013[/editline]
Did I tell you I have a raincoat given to my uncle by Kim Il-Sung? Bet you'd suck my dick for it.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273701]
3. Hooliganism
[/QUOTE]
Hooliganism isn't shit compared to how ostracizing or even violent the North Koreans could be to you considering they're taught anyone not from there is the white devil who is stopping North Korea from becoming even more of a Glorious People's Republic.
North Korea is a mix between Communism, Dictatorship and Inhumane cunts
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273701]
3. Hooliganism
[/QUOTE]
Hooliganism vs Building structures for a fat sack of shit with the struggling, suffocating bodies mixed into the concrete.
How the fuck can you call yourself a communist when you support a regime that literally has an upper class bourgeois that feast on nothing but golden swan eggs in a building made from the mangled corpses of the proletariat. You hypocrite.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42272788]As I said, NK is experiencing economic growth of sorts. Kim Jong Un is doing a decent job it seems.
They're also building a new modern airport, a ski resort, a spa resort, and a swimming complex near the capital.[/QUOTE]
Just like China's districts of empty housing are a sign of economic growth, right? Not really, it's a move to fake economic growth.
Communism just doesn't work, China will one day become Capitalist, one day NK will be united with SK under a capitalist government, and countries will follow, hell China isn't really pure Communist anyway they have plenty of privately owned enterprises running and borrowed some tricks of the trade when the British owned Hong Kong
[QUOTE=synthiac;42273705][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media#Consequences_of_state_ownership]lol[/url][/QUOTE]
The ABC (both Australian and American) and the BBC are state owned media entities, i am yet to see anyone criticize the objectivity of the BBC.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42273733]btw the CPA will get nowhere, the original party was better but this party is shit, one place in the NSW state senate wow-wee what an accomplishment[/QUOTE]
While i agree that the modern CPA is useless as a political entity, it allows for me to meet like-minded people and partake in group study of Socialist theory.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;42273736]I don't think you can even call North Korea a communist country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42273780]North Korea is a mix between Communism, Dictatorship and Inhumane cunts[/QUOTE]
The DPRK replaced Marxist-Leninism with Juche ideology in 1972 and then removed any mention of "Communism" or "Marxist-Leninism" from it's constitution in the 90s.
Linking Communism with the modern DPRK simply highlights your poor understanding of contemporary DPRK politics.
[QUOTE=Thlis;42273849]How the fuck can you call yourself a communist when you support a regime that literally has an upper class bourgeois that feast on nothing but golden swan eggs in a building made from the mangled corpses of the proletariat. You hypocrite.[/QUOTE]
The class structure of the DPRK seems to be:
1. Bureaucratic class
2. military Class
3. proletariat
I have never claimed that the DPRK is some sort of Socialistic utopia - simply that i prefer what the DPRK is compared to Australia.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273320]Personally i would prefer a kickstarter to send me to Indonesia, so that i would apply for political asylum at the DPRKs Jakarta embassy.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but you're slightly insane.
ABC in the US is not owned by the government, it's owned by Disney
ABC in Australia and BBC are both Government owned however BBC relies off funding through a government tax and BBC Worldwide relies off advertising because laws do not permit it to use the UK's money for international stations
ABC'S Australian Network which broadcast in the Asian-Pacific also requires advertising because the laws in Australia for the ABC do not allow it to use the Government's money when running international stations
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273952]
I have never claimed that the DPRK is some sort of Socialistic utopia[/QUOTE]
Really? You seem to think that any reports of human rights violations are the work of jealous western powers.
Why don't you weigh in on the links I provided earlier, you know the ones with forced internment, and the general inhumane nazi-esque treatment of prisoners.
People are dying in conditions akin to that of the holocaust and yet your dream is to leave a free country, where you have a right to your views and your saftey, for a country lead by a masturbatory dictatorship, building skyscrapers to felate his own ego with the corpses of children working in prison camps.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;42273890]Just like China's districts of empty housing are a sign of economic growth, right? Not really, it's a move to fake economic growth.[/QUOTE]
Well that did help China to grow a huge economy, so it's a good tactic. Even if fake, it's still economic growth that helps.
Also wtf RAYHALO, you live in Australia and want to move to that shithole NK?? There are other commie countries not as dictatorial as NK, move to those.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273701]The Gold Coast is indeed a nice place to live if you enjoy.
1. Rampant consumerism
2. False consciousness
3. Hooliganism
I have stated before that i am a member of the CPA.[/QUOTE]
Enjoy watching public executions by mortars, torture, and other fun activities in North Korea!
[QUOTE=Thlis;42274003]Really? You seem to think that any reports of human rights violations are the work of jealous western powers.[/QUOTE]
Dismissing dubious accusations =/= likening a nation to an ideological utopia.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273320]Personally i would prefer a kickstarter to send me to Indonesia, so that i would apply for political asylum at the DPRKs Jakarta embassy.[/QUOTE]
Uh what,i dont recall my city having any north korean embassy
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273952]The ABC (both Australian and American) and the BBC are state owned media entities, i am yet to see anyone criticize the objectivity of the BBC.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the Australian side, but the American ABC is a wholly private entity. The BBC receives most of its funding through the television license, and is technically owned by the British government, but it operates largely-autonomously. And it is fair to question the reliability of them as sources as with anything, but they've built up substantial credibility over the years, particularly so in the case of the BBC, by showing impartiality and honesty in their reports that can be corroborated by other credible sources.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274036]Dismissing dubious accusations =/= likening a nation to an ideological utopia.[/QUOTE]
Dubious accusations?
The Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, fucking defectors have stated that these camps exist and that they are god damn hell.
Have you actually read the links I have provided?
[URL]http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/north-korea?page=1[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA24/001/2011/en/2671e54f-1cd1-46c1-96f1-6a463efa6f65/asa240012011en.pdf[/URL]
Again, People are dying in conditions akin to that of the holocaust and yet your dream is to leave a free country, where you have a right to your views and your saftey, for a country lead by a masturbatory dictatorship, building skyscrapers to felate his own ego with the corpses of children working in prison camps.
If you can ignore that then you are sick in the head.
[QUOTE=Frozzy;42274046]Uh what,i dont recall my city having any north korean embassy[/QUOTE]
Embassy of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Jakarta
Street Address: J1 Teluk Betung No. 2 Menteng, Jakarta Pusat, Indonesia
Postal Address: P O Box 6190 MT, Jakarta 10310
Telephone: (62 21) 3190 8425 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8426 (Political); (62021) 3190 8436 (Commercial)
Facsimile: (62 21) 3190 8445 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8419 (Commercial)
Email: [email]dprkorea@rad.net.id[/email]
Office hours: 8 a.m.-5p.m., Mon-Fri
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274036]Dismissing dubious accusations =/= likening a nation to an ideological utopia.[/QUOTE]They're not dubious, they're very well substantiated.
[editline]22nd September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274067]Embassy of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Jakarta
Street Address: J1 Teluk Betung No. 2 Menteng, Jakarta Pusat, Indonesia
Postal Address: P O Box 6190 MT, Jakarta 10310
Telephone: (62 21) 3190 8425 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8426 (Political); (62021) 3190 8436 (Commercial)
Facsimile: (62 21) 3190 8445 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8419 (Commercial)
Email: [email]dprkorea@rad.net.id[/email]
Office hours: 8 a.m.-5p.m., Mon-Fri[/QUOTE]Honestly, I'd love to see you actually be allowed in to North Korea because you'd very quickly regret the action and would be trying to flee across the northern boarder in to China very quickly. My only hope being that China doesn't catch you and return you across the boarder where you'd like face summary execution.
Also if NK is ever liberated, any hard paper or computer evidence will be completely liquidated, a classic move by any falling government however all NK prison defectors all have a common story, people are overworked, treated like animals, left to die, and guard intolerance, daily beatings, daily public executions and child labour is fucking rampant
NK is terrible
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274067]Embassy of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Jakarta
Street Address: J1 Teluk Betung No. 2 Menteng, Jakarta Pusat, Indonesia
Postal Address: P O Box 6190 MT, Jakarta 10310
Telephone: (62 21) 3190 8425 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8426 (Political); (62021) 3190 8436 (Commercial)
Facsimile: (62 21) 3190 8445 (Political); (62 21) 3190 8419 (Commercial)
Email: [email]dprkorea@rad.net.id[/email]
Office hours: 8 a.m.-5p.m., Mon-Fri[/QUOTE]
Whoa what how the hell do you know this,i've been living in jakarta for a long time and i have never knew that nk had an embassy
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42273952]While i agree that the modern CPA is useless as a political entity, it allows for me to meet like-minded people and partake in group study of Socialist theory.[/QUOTE]Basically, you've surrounded yourself with others who are closed off and like-minded and sit around circle-jerking to a single idea without really looking too deep and refusing to acknowledge outside information.
I am convinced the RAYHOLO is dennis rodman
Socialist theory sure worked out for the Soviets and Chinese
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