• Pyongyang Undergoing Radical Changes
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[QUOTE=Swebonny;42273742]Rayhalo, you're great! [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] Did I tell you I have a raincoat given to my uncle by Kim Il-Sung? Bet you'd suck my dick for it.[/QUOTE] Swebonny knows how to treat a lady right.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42274124]Basically, you've surrounded yourself with others who are closed off and like-minded and sit around circle-jerking to a single idea[/QUOTE] I have attempted to surround myself with like-minded individuals so that i may gain a better understanding of Marxist-Economics and Marxist-Leninist theory. Not to mention the benefit of being around people that i can really have an actual conversation with. [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42274124]without really looking too deep and refusing to acknowledge outside information.[/QUOTE] Baseless and ridiculousness.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274221] Baseless and ridiculousness.[/QUOTE] I sort of want to know if you think the Holocaust or Stalin's Purge were also hoaxes. [QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274221]I have attempted to surround myself with like-minded individuals so that i may gain a better understanding of Marxist-Economics and Marxist-Leninist theory. Not to mention the benefit of being around people that i can really have an actual conversation with. [/QUOTE] AKA [QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274221]I have attempted to surround myself with like-minded individuals beacuse no one else ever agrees with me and I can only claim that they are sheep of the Western powers. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274221]I have attempted to surround myself with like-minded individuals so that i may gain a better understanding of Marxist-Economics and Marxist-Leninist theory. Not to mention the benefit of being around people that i can really have an actual conversation with.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with that, you literally just want to shut yourself off from any outside idea because it inconveniences the world view you've propped up. [QUOTE]Baseless and ridiculousness.[/QUOTE]Entirely accurate. Knowing the contact information for an embassy in Indonesia and sitting around talking with a group of other people who are equally misled and ill-informed doesn't mean you have any understanding or real knowledge.
[QUOTE=Thlis;42274250]I sort of want to know if you think the Holocaust or Stalin's Purge were also hoaxes.[/QUOTE] I have never claimed the holocaust or the Purge to be hoaxes.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274267]I have never claimed the holocaust or the Purge to be hoaxes.[/QUOTE]So you believe they really occurred then? Why?
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274267]I have never claimed the holocaust or the Purge to be hoaxes.[/QUOTE] Respond to this please [QUOTE=Thlis;42274065]Dubious accusations? The Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, fucking defectors have stated that these camps exist and that they are god damn hell. Have you actually read the links I have provided? [URL]http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/north-korea?page=1[/URL] [URL]http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA24/001/2011/en/2671e54f-1cd1-46c1-96f1-6a463efa6f65/asa240012011en.pdf[/URL] Again, People are dying in conditions akin to that of the holocaust and yet your dream is to leave a free country, where you have a right to your views and your saftey, for a country lead by a masturbatory dictatorship, building skyscrapers to felate his own ego with the corpses of children working in prison camps. If you can ignore that then you are sick in the head.[/QUOTE] I really want to hear you tell me that AA and the HRW are biased towards the west
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42274290]So you believe they really occurred then? Why?[/QUOTE] Both the Holocaust and the Purge were events that have been well documented and acknowledged by both bourgeois and Socialist academics. [QUOTE=Timebomb575;42274307]I really want to hear you tell me that AA and the HRW are biased towards the west[/QUOTE] I would maintain the HRW at the very least has been provided with incorrect information - through no fault of there own of course.
once again facepunch demonstrates fascist sympathy by beating down the dissident political standing of rayhalo. im not saying hes right but jesus christ be open minded
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274406]words.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ you talk like a bad movie set in the beginning of the 20th century. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] or a really boring book about socialism
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274433]once again facepunch demonstrates fascist sympathy by beating down the dissident political standing of rayhalo. im not saying hes right but jesus christ be open minded[/QUOTE] Open minded? This isn't christianity vs judaism, this is clean water vs having to scrounge for rodents while avoiding being shot by the Prison camp guards.
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274433]once again facepunch demonstrates fascist sympathy by beating down the dissident political standing of rayhalo. im not saying hes right but jesus christ be open minded[/QUOTE] There was a thread about fascism in GD a few months ago, not only did at-least one member openly identify as a fascist but a number of posts were also quite pro fascist. [QUOTE=Zuimzado;42274452]Jesus Christ you talk like a bad movie set in the beginning of the 20th century. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] or a really boring book about socialism[/QUOTE] I have never noticed, could you please elaborate?
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274406]Both the Holocaust and the Purge were events that have been well documented and acknowledged by both bourgeois and Socialist academics.[/QUOTE]So basically you're going to refuse to believe anything unless it comes from North Korean officials.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274509]There was a thread about fascism in GD a few months ago, not only did at-least one member openly identify as a fascist but a number of posts were also quite pro fascist.[/QUOTE] so a few fascist posts in a thread specifically meant for fascists to post in immediately means that FP (a forum with something to the tune of 20,000 members) is completely fascist
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42274520]So basically you're going to refuse to believe anything unless it comes from North Korean officials.[/QUOTE] "If Kim Jong-Un says the sky isn't blue then the sky isn't blue and everyone who says otherwise is bourgeois."
[QUOTE=Cone;42274535]so like ten posts in a thread specifically meant for fascists to post in immediately means that FP (a forum with something to the tune of 20,000 members) is completely fascist[/QUOTE] I am really hoping RAYHALO starts complaining about oppression and not being able to voice his opinion.
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274433]once again facepunch demonstrates fascist sympathy by beating down the dissident political standing of rayhalo. im not saying hes right but jesus christ be open minded[/QUOTE]Seriously? North Korea is the closest thing to fascism that still exists today; it's a hereditary dictatorship with a prison camp system that makes Auschwitz look like a holiday resort. Anyone who is an apologist for their government is a communist or liberal in name only, if at all.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42274520]So basically you're going to refuse to believe anything unless it comes from North Korean officials.[/QUOTE] No, he's just going to refuse to believe anything unless it agrees with him. If a NK official said something he didn't like, he'd probably say it was a spy or saboteur or something.
[QUOTE=Thlis;42274545]I am really hoping RAYHALO starts complaining about oppression and not being able to voice his opinion.[/QUOTE] except he cant voice his opinion because hes met with criticism from an opposing ideology, you're clearly demonstrating fascist tendencies yet you either don't see that or refuse to admit it, i pity you.
[QUOTE=Cone;42274535]so a few fascist posts in a thread specifically meant for fascists to post in[/QUOTE] The thread was quite clearly designed to facilitate discussion on fascism. [QUOTE=Cone;42274535]immediately means that FP (a forum with something to the tune of 20,000 members) is completely fascist[/QUOTE] I never made that claim.
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274567]except he cant voice his opinion because hes met with criticism from an opposing ideology, you're clearly demonstrating fascist tendencies yet you either don't see that or refuse to admit it, i pity you.[/QUOTE] RAYHALO having an alt is bannable.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274572]The thread was quite clearly designed to facilitate discussion on fascism.[/QUOTE] [I]you don't fucking say[/I]. it was part of an ongoing series of threads by Seed Eater about various political ideologies for people who follow said ideologies to discuss them. i really don't see your point here
[QUOTE=Durrsly;42274578]RAYHALO having an alt is bannable.[/QUOTE] I'm just as confused as you. However given that i live in Australia and not the USA - its quite clearly not an alt.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;42274578]RAYHALO having an alt is bannable.[/QUOTE] im not RAYHALOs alt, and while im sort of in the grey area about defending a north korean sympathizer, i will defend somebody who is clearly being repressed politically, thats what values my country was built on.
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274567]except he cant voice his opinion because hes met with criticism from an opposing ideology, you're clearly demonstrating fascist tendencies yet you either don't see that or refuse to admit it, i pity you.[/QUOTE]If someone doesn't want to share their opinion for fear of criticism, it's likely a shit opinion. If an ideology is so fragile that it cannot be discussed without criticism destroying it, it doesn't deserve to exist and most certainly shouldn't be put into practice. It's criticism that keeps morons from implementing terrible ideas or improves already good ideas. Blind acceptance or tolerance of terrible ideas is what led to e.g. the PATRIOT Act breezing through Congress because nobody wanted to naysay the government so soon after 9/11.
[QUOTE=RAYHALO;42274593]I'm just as confused as you. However given that i live in Australia and not the USA - its quite clearly not an alt.[/QUOTE] What is a proxy and how do you even?
So I looked through some of RAYHALO's posts. Holy shit the guy says that NK has no concentration camps, is a fully democratic country with democratic elections (just like our dear Ceausescu was forcing the population to vote for him every time rite? Democracy, woo), and is basically heaven on Earth. I seriously have no idea how he got this indoctrinated.
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274606]im not RAYHALOs ult, and while im sort of in the grey area about defending a north korean sympathizer, i will defend somebody who is clearly being repressed politically, thats what values my country was built on.[/QUOTE] You're saying that he can have an opinion, but people can't criticize because he has a right to free speech. Do you notice the irony in what what you are saying?
[QUOTE=Shaka;42274606]im not RAYHALOs ult, and while im sort of in the grey area about defending a north korean sympathizer, i will defend somebody who is clearly being repressed politically, thats what values my country was built on.[/QUOTE] fyi Facepunch is a privately owned forum, you have never once been guaranteed the right to free speech or political freedom here. even if you were guaranteed both of those things for whatever reason, this is not repression, and you're cheapening the term by saying that it is. if you want to know about political repression, just have a look at North Korea.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;42274627]You're saying that he can have an opinion, but people can't criticize because he has a right to free speech. Do you notice the irony in what what you are saying?[/QUOTE] public shaming is not criticism, it's bullying. please learn to argue logically, thank you.
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