[QUOTE=_jesterk;35380016]I don't know what it looks like where you're living, but I'm pretty sure the point of police is not to arrest random people for no reason.[/QUOTE]
They do. Sell some pot, or some meth, or some cocaine? The police can come and steal your money from you, even though selling drugs is in itself not wrong in any way.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35379571]They are stealing money that belongs to an American citizen to buy more gear to arrest more American citizens who aren't even doing anything wrong.
At least as far as the drugs go.[/QUOTE]
Stoners like you are so hopelessly paranoid. Its funny really.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;35380410]Stoners like you are so hopelessly paranoid. Its funny really.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a stoner. I haven't smoked weed for damn near a year. So stoner is inaccurate. I'm for freedom and liberty. I don't take kindly to the government or police telling me what I am allowed to do with my own body.
At least it's not going into their Swiss bank accounts.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380424]I'm not a stoner. I haven't smoked weed for damn near a year. So stoner is inaccurate. I'm for freedom and liberty. I don't take kindly to the government or police telling me what I am allowed to do with my own body.[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, fuk da polic, dem corrupt freedom snatchers!
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;35380449]Yeah man, fuk da polic, dem corrupt freedom snatchers![/QUOTE]
Well, yea. Fuck them for trying to oppress the people who just want to enjoy themselves.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380471]Well, yea. Fuck them for trying to oppress the people who just want to enjoy themselves.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, fuq da police who want people to not kill themselves. For that matter, fuq da FDA, they can't tell me what to put in my body.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380491]Yeah, fuq da police who want people to not kill themselves. For that matter, fuq da FDA, they can't tell me what to put in my body.[/QUOTE]
lol are you 12? Do you really need someone else to tell you whether drugs are bad or not? Do you really need the government to make your decisions for you?
Thank you for clarifying that you are an authoritarian, and a child.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380471]Well, yea. Fuck them for trying to oppress the people who just want to enjoy themselves, and in the process potential cause self bodily harm and potentially disturb the peace of bystanders[/QUOTE]
FTFY.
I mean for real, ban violent video games and fast food, which are more harmful than marijuana to the mind and body respectively.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380506]lol are you 12? Do you really need someone else to tell you whether drugs are bad or not? Do you really need the government to make your decisions for you?
Thank you for clarifying that you are an authoritarian, and a child.[/QUOTE]
ITT: Laws that attempt to prevent deaths and poverty = authoritarian. How's anarchy working out for you?
Also violent music, R rated movies, alcohol, and cigarettes. In fact, let's ban driving, gun ownership, and electronics, because those things also have the potential to cause bodily harm.
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[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380523]ITT: Laws that attempt to prevent deaths and poverty = authoritarian. How's anarchy working out for you?[/QUOTE]
Laws that restrict people's freedom arbitrarily are authoritarian.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380528]Also violent music, R rated movies, alcohol, and cigarettes. In fact, let's ban driving, gun ownership, and electronics, because those things also have the potential to cause bodily harm.
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Laws that restrict people's freedom arbitrarily are authoritarian.[/QUOTE]
By your logic, we should lift the ban on buying black market weapons too, because it restricts freedom in the name of safety. Drugs like meth have little to no positive effect. Electronics are beneficial to society. So is driving. R rated movies and M rated video games have little to no ill effects unless you're already unstable.
But I don't know why I'm arguing with you, you obviously despise laws.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380528]Also violent music, R rated movies, alcohol, and cigarettes. In fact, let's ban driving, gun ownership, and electronics, because those things also have the potential to cause bodily harm.[/QUOTE]lol yah brah tem stupid po po trying 2 stop our 420 fun tim! toke erryday man!
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[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380543]By your logic, we should lift the ban on buying black market weapons too, because it restricts freedom in the name of safety.[/QUOTE]
Black market weapons should be illegal because the weapons are procured via immoral, illegal methods such as theft.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380556]Black market weapons should be illegal because the weapons are procured via immoral, illegal methods such as theft.[/QUOTE]
Drugs are produced/shipped/stolen via immoral, illegal methods such as murder and theft. Let's not forget the main source of income for many gangs and terrorist groups - drugs.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380556]Black market weapons should be illegal because the weapons are procured via immoral, illegal methods such as theft.[/QUOTE]
And drugs totally arent procured in similar methods.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380562]Drugs are produced/shipped/stolen via immoral, illegal methods such as murder and theft.[/QUOTE]
But murder and theft are not inherent to the production and distribution of drugs. How many are killed over the manufacture of alcohol and cigarettes, for example? How many are killed by legal ritalin or fluoxetine manufacturing?
If drugs were legal, the theft and murder would disappear, because people are allowed to synthesize drugs while being protected by the legal system of the USA.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;35380449]Yeah man, fuk da polic, dem corrupt freedom snatchers![/QUOTE]
shut the fuck up
"i just think the war on drugs is dumb i mean theres nothing wrong with using drugs, i'm an adult and i choose what to do with my body"
"lol fuck da police amirite?? xD"
hey heads up dipshit: saying "fuck the police" ironically is no longer funny stop doing it
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380578]But murder and theft are not inherent to the production and distribution of drugs. How many are killed over the manufacture of alcohol and cigarettes, for example? How many are killed by legal ritalin or fluoxetine manufacturing?
If drugs were legal, the theft and murder would disappear, because people are allowed to synthesize drugs while being protected by the legal system of the USA.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure making substances that are even more dangerous than alcohol and tobacco legal would end well as their usage increased greatly due to reduced production costs.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380543]By your logic, we should lift the ban on buying black market weapons too, because it restricts freedom in the name of safety. Drugs like meth have little to no positive effect. Electronics are beneficial to society. So is driving. R rated movies and M rated video games have little to no ill effects unless you're already unstable.
But I don't know why I'm arguing with you, you obviously despise laws.[/QUOTE]
are you seriously arguing in favor of the criminalization of narcotics seriously
hey dumbass if you don't want to use meth: don't use meth
the difference between a gun and meth? you can't shoot meth at someone!! it's something you do to yourself, it's a weapon of destruction but only under the victim's consent. what kind of mongoloid could actually fail to comprehend the difference between guns and drugs holy shit
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380578]But murder and theft are not inherent to the production and distribution of drugs. How many are killed over the manufacture of alcohol and cigarettes, for example? How many are killed by legal ritalin or fluoxetine manufacturing?
If drugs were legal, the theft and murder would disappear, because people are allowed to synthesize drugs while being protected by the legal system of the USA.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, because drug cartels wouldn't get even more vicious on innocents if they realized there source of income is being threatened.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380599]I'm sure making substances that are even more dangerous than alcohol and tobacco legal would end well as their usage increased greatly due to reduced production costs.[/QUOTE]
yes! it would!!
people who want to do illegal drugs [B]do illegal drugs[/B]
the war on drugs isn't stopping millions of abusers on a daily basis, it's just making it illegal which forces what could be a regular albeit taboo industry into a world of crime and paranoia, the entire reason illegal drugs are associated with violence and crime is because THEY ARE ILLEGAL and criminals end up having to resort to less-than-pleasant "business practices" to continue their business without getting caught
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35380615]yes! it would!!
people who want to do illegal drugs [B]do illegal drugs[/B]
the war on drugs isn't stopping millions of abusers on a daily basis, it's just making it illegal which forces what could be a regular albeit taboo industry into a world of crime and paranoia, the entire reason illegal drugs are associated with violence and crime is because THEY ARE ILLEGAL and criminals end up having to resort to less-than-pleasant "business practices" to continue their business without getting caught[/QUOTE]
So you're saying we should make harmful dangerous drugs easily open to the public. Gee, I don't see what could go wrong with that.
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;35380622]yeah a guy smoking a gram is going to disturb the peace by buying all of the hot cheetos
get over yourself[/QUOTE]
Fyi weed isnt the only narcotic substance, ever heard of LSD?
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;35380599]I'm sure making substances that are even more dangerous than alcohol and tobacco legal would end well as their usage increased greatly due to reduced production costs.[/QUOTE]
There is no scientific evidence that usage would increase, and that doesn't matter anyways. Why does it matter if usage increases in the first place? If people are willing to take the drug, they should be willing to face the health related consequences of that drug use. Also, all the money that we put into the war on drugs? We could put that into comprehensive drug education, as well as rehabilitation services for people addicted to drugs.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;35380612]Oh yes, because drug cartels wouldn't get even more vicious on innocents if they realized there source of income is being threatened.[/QUOTE]
yeah dude good point the drug cartels would track down the HUGE amount of people that would be growing and distributing their drugs legally! because the drug cartel would still need to operate away from the supervision of the law because they're just inherently evil, it's not like they could possibly engage in legal business directly, or indirectly by unofficially exerting huge amounts of influence on a perfectly legal distributor
nope they'd just track down every single person that tried to sell drugs and kill them, thanks for setting us straight!
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;35380628]So you're saying we should make harmful dangerous drugs easily open to the public. Gee, I don't see what could go wrong with that.
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Fyi weed isnt the only narcotic substance, ever heard of LSD?[/QUOTE]
[B]yes[/B]
what the fuck are you on about?? you just keep asking me if i want harmful substances legalized like it's some end-all "oh no you didnt" solution. yeah, i do want harmful substances legalized! what COULD go wrong? you keep blabbering on about "what could go wrong". what exactly do you think will fucking go wrong? widespread use of meth? as if there's this HUGE population of people just DYING to try methamphetamine, but they decided to opt for a healthier lifestyle because meth is against the law? are you a child?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35380638]yeah dude good point the drug cartels would track down the HUGE amount of people that would be growing and distributing their drugs legally! because the drug cartel would still need to operate away from the supervision of the law because they're just inherently evil, it's not like they could possibly engage in legal business directly, or indirectly by unofficially exerting huge amounts of influence on a perfectly legal distributor
nope they'd just track down every single person that tried to sell drugs and kill them, thanks for setting us straight![/QUOTE]
Learn to read, the cartels wouldn't hunt down the drug providers, they would kill innocent civilians like they have been doing in greater numbers to try and put pressure on the government to make it illegal again, that way they can hold a monopoly.
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Fyi weed isnt the only narcotic substance, ever heard of LSD?[/QUOTE]
lol you've lost all credibility with that.
Neither LSD or Marijuana is a narcotic. LSD is a psychedelic hallucinogen, and Marijuana is a cannaboid.
Heroin is a narcotic, as is morphine and vicodin.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35380675]lol you've lost all credibility with that.
Neither LSD or Marijuana is a narcotic. LSD is a psychedelic hallucinogen, and Marijuana is a cannaboid.
Heroin is a narcotic, as is morphine and vicodin.[/QUOTE]
Lost all credibility despite the common usage of "narcotic" to describe drugs in general.
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