• Prisoners will soon have to fund their stay in prison
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[QUOTE=jgerm529;33712333]Yea I did say its ok and guess what? Alot of them deserve it. My brother is a CO at the county jail how about you go on a shift with him and come back telling me that the inmates are good inocent people.[/QUOTE] Do a robbery and go to prison for a few years, get raped in the ass and pay for your stay all the while. Tell me that the rape was totally justified. You have to take into account that it's probably not your average 100 kilo serial-killer that gets raped.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;33714554]Jesus fucking christ you are retarded. I'm friends with people who have had to mug people and break into homes because they were driven to it as their last option and they still feel shit about it. There is not always a fucking way to get money, especially in big cities as noone will trust some random dude to do a job for them and even if there is, you don't make nearly enough money to support yourself and/or family. No shit inmates aren't innocence you dense fuck but a lot of inmates aren't evil people. Most of the ones who are actually bad in my opinion are people who are in there for murder and rape, not car thiefs and shoplifters. How about you realise that the actual world is quite different to what you have experienced in your life so far.[/QUOTE] There is never any excuse for crime and I'm not saying they deserve to be raped but I'm saying maybe they wouldnt be in that position if they had not commited a crime. If you are in jail it's not right that the average taxpayer has to pay for you to live while we can barely get by ourselves.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33720310]There is never any excuse for crime and I'm not saying they deserve to be raped but I'm saying maybe they wouldnt be in that position if they had not commited a crime. If you are in jail it's not right that the average taxpayer has to pay for you to live while we can barely get by ourselves.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=jgerm529;33712333][B]Yea I did say its ok[/B][/QUOTE] You just said rape was okay and justifiable. You are a horrible person.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33720310]There is never any excuse for crime and I'm not saying they deserve to be raped[/QUOTE] yeah you are: [QUOTE=jgerm529;33712333]Yea I did say its ok and guess what? Alot of them deserve it.[/QUOTE] you are a morally repugnant person for thinking that, btw. [QUOTE=jgerm529;33720310] If you are in jail it's not right that the average taxpayer has to pay for you to live while we can barely get by ourselves.[/QUOTE] really? because just last page you were arguing that it's totally no problem at all to get a job and make money, and now you're saying everyone can barely get by.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;33724093]yeah you are: you are a morally repugnant person for thinking that, btw. really? because just last page you were arguing that it's totally no problem at all to get a job and make money, and now you're saying everyone can barely get by.[/QUOTE] It is no problem to get a job and have money, dosent mean that you're going to be rich but you'll be getting by. And yea well not my fault they're criminals and saying they deserve it and being ok with it are 2 different things.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33725080]It is no problem to get a job and have money, dosent mean that you're going to be rich but you'll be getting by.[/QUOTE] you keep jumping back and forth [QUOTE=jgerm529;33725080] And yea well not my fault they're criminals and saying they deserve it and being ok with it are 2 different things.[/QUOTE] no, they're the same thing. accepting something as the correct way for things to be and saying that it's justified are the same thing. we shouldn't even have to go that far. you're saying that you are OK with rape. you are saying that it is alright that people are being raped. that will never, ever, in a million years be an ok thing to believe. [editline]14th December 2011[/editline] civilization will fall, the sun will expand and consume the earth, and the universe will fade into darkness with it's eventual heat death, and it will still not be ok to believe that "it's perfectly fine that someone was being raped"
I would be okay with this if there was a way to earn money in jail, otherwise I really don't like it.
If anything this appears to be a blatant utility for private prison companies to secure their profits and ensure that the highest possible percentage of released prisoners return from their virtual inability of recovering. The consequences of secretly growing harmless grass is a virtual guarantee of your life getting utterly ruined. Drugs are not illegal because someone actually gives a shit about your health, drugs are illegal because they help loosen the chains of a restrictive society and make people think differently, and also because it generates profit. I find it hard to believe that a judgement system a large part of which consists of using virtually innocent people for profit is exactly the same system which supposedly cares about your well being. [editline]15th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Cone;33720572]You just said rape was okay and justifiable. You are a horrible person.[/QUOTE] Rape is one of the most inconceivably evil things that a human being(s) can do to another, the amount of pain and suffering that it brings is virtually immeasurable.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33695326]Alright well then you are right but still if you don't want to have to deal with that then don't go comit crimes and get sent to jail. simple[/QUOTE] Everything you posted in this thread made my IQ drop. You are a terrible person.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33694190]All I just read there was you basicly saying that the prisoners never did anything wrong and the cops/co's are all bad evil men. And there is no excuse for being a criminal, you broke the law and you are paying for it. And well they wouldnt lose their shit if they didnt break the law in the first place. Yes I want more of a tax on the rich but I still don't think I should have to pay for other peoples crimes. [editline]12th December 2011[/editline] You guys are maiking it sound like the prisoners are your best friends who got a life sentence for jaywalking. Most criminals are just that criminals and should be treated as such. Some people just belong in prison. Sorry but that is a fact of life.[/QUOTE] It's more because of you're looking at prison at a punishment rather than rehabilitation standpoint.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33725080]It is no problem to get a job and have money, dosent mean that you're going to be rich but you'll be getting by. And yea well not my fault they're criminals and saying they deserve it and being ok with it are 2 different things.[/QUOTE] Why can't you get it into your dense head that people can't legitamately make enough money to get by? Jesus
[QUOTE=x_xPwntx_x;33732328]It's more because of you're looking at prison at a punishment rather than rehabilitation standpoint.[/QUOTE] Yes thats what prison is for is punishment.
[QUOTE=jgerm529;33734086]Yes thats what prison is for is punishment.[/QUOTE] So if, for instance, a man was unwilling or otherwise incapable of partaking in or otherwise permitting crime (say he had a reason for his crime and would not have done it otherwise), you would nonetheless punish him, despite the problem already being dealt with? You have no grasp of logic beyond your apparent masochism and egocentric altruism. Refering to what you said about rape, you basically went "naw its kay cause hes a car thief ;)". It would seem to me you just want to justify causing pain, and that is a very worrying thing indeed.
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