[QUOTE=afromana;42342950]Just yesterday saw an episode of Penn & Teller that went into just this, Chiropractors and children.
And a few other kinds of alternative medicine.
[video=youtube;Y1c1PEGgQQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1c1PEGgQQ0[/video]
Around [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y1c1PEGgQQ0#t=998]16:38[/url][/QUOTE]
[I]i heard parts of that little girl snap
[U]parts of small children should not be snapping[/U][/I]
[QUOTE=itisjuly;42344954]They could make it illegal for starters[/QUOTE]
Make home schooling illegal, why?
[QUOTE=Scorpionsting;42342799]Why do people take their babies to a chiropractor anyway? They could at least wait a couple of years or so before getting a check up, Right?[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't need one until like, 40+ years, and even then, a chiropractor is a very shit temp fix, my mother goes to them, ok yeah she feels great but only feels the same after that wears off. But she's at the age where it actually makes sense.
[B]people with real problems need help from a real doctor, not this shitty gimmick[/B]
and if you're overweight and have a bad hip just think of why you might have a god damn bad hip for not but 2 seconds.
these parent's are pretty dumb and this "professional" is an idiot who just wants to take their money. A real professional would've never treated anyone under 30 or with no problems.
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[QUOTE=DogGunn;42344311]It doesn't sound like she is doing anything illegal, so I doubt any govt agency would be able to do anything.[/QUOTE]
"Not illegal" doesn't make it "Ok"
[QUOTE=Mr._N;42342859]Like this bullshit:
[video=youtube;T7ihdsjIqhI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7ihdsjIqhI[/video][/QUOTE]
every time i see this video at 1:08 i just hope that the baby will take a massive dump on her face
[QUOTE=J!NX;42345340]
"Not illegal" doesn't make it "Ok"[/QUOTE]
No but it means that they can't do anything... simply because you disagree with someones choice of parenting does not give passage or right for a government agency to move in.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;42345631]No but it means that they can't do anything... simply because you disagree with someones choice of parenting does not give passage or right for a government agency to move in.[/QUOTE]
its kind of obvious they made the dumb choice. This isn't "simply disagreeing with their choice". hell, it even sorta says "Chiropractor breaks baby's neck." in the title. it's clearly shitty decision making on the parents part. There's literally no need for a baby to visit a chiropractor. They're basically made of rubber. Infact, anyone that doesn't have back problems shouldn't go to one period as a child going to one will only MAKE back problems.
Fuck, I bet if you threw a baby on the floor it would actually bounce. Don't do it though.
this is how laws are made, after all. This is the same as that 8 year old who gets botox. It's not illegal but it's poor management of a child.
WTF? I am replying to the poster that was directly above me.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1311308&p=42344287&viewfull=1#post42344287[/url]
It didn't relate to the decision to take a baby to a chiropractor.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;42345726]WTF? I am replying to the poster that was directly above me.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1311308&p=42344287&viewfull=1#post42344287[/url]
It didn't relate to the decision to take a baby to a chiropractor.[/QUOTE]
use the [B]REPLY[/B] button please.
And even then that aunt is a pretty bad parent.
home schooling isn't bad, but the way she treats the kids and the reason they are schooled certainly are.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42345748]And even then that aunt is a pretty bad parent.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but that does not detract in this case to what I wrote in reply to that comment.
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[QUOTE=J!NX;42345748]
home schooling isn't bad, but the way she treats the kids and the reason they are schooled certainly are.[/QUOTE]
Unless you're suggesting (and can prove) that she is being criminally negligent to her children, nobody will intervene.
This isn't even the worst, there are plenty of chiropractic clinics around that do in vitro chiropractic, and some of those even offer acupuncture. Pseudoscience can be fucking disgusting
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[QUOTE]''expert in the field of paediatric chiropractic"[/QUOTE]
How the fuck is this title even allowed to exist
[QUOTE=duckmaster;42345021]Dude you're scaring me. I just learned today that my spine was crooked, and that it was the cause for my minor back aches.[/QUOTE]
While my condition is probably unqiuely individual, i highly reccomend you get that shit checked out ASAP, maybe enough to catch it in time to use some preventative/helpful measures.
Funny related story: There was a thread on SA from a guy who was training to be a chiropractor. He didn't notice the x-rays someone had posted for him to look at were of a dog's spine.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;42342859]Like this bullshit:
[video=youtube;T7ihdsjIqhI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7ihdsjIqhI[/video][/QUOTE]
This is scary to watch.
I go to the chiropractor every week, and it helps a lot. I don't have any major problems, but being in the drumline at my school and carrying around a drum for hours on end every day causes quite a few back and neck pains. Although I wouldn't really bring an infant to one.
Man, imagine that feeling when you're at a friends house and accidentally break something while they're out of the room, times a hundred.
[QUOTE=krail9;42343051]chiropractic treatment is a load of bullshit and just plain stupid for babies/children so young[/QUOTE]
There's a ton that is bull shit about chiropractors, but there's some things that they can actually fix, I posted earlier about one fixing migraines with me, the migraines were caused by an injury to my neck that caused my neck to be stuck at a slight angle, and caused a pinched nerve, and I'm not going by what the chiropractor said, I'm going by what the x-ray showed.
I also didn't realize it was what was causing my migraines until afterwards when I realized, Holy shit, I haven't had a migraine for ages.
why would one take a baby to a chiropractor.... they are like 75% catalige at that point and their bone structure is completely different from an adult's bone structure because many bones of their haven't fused yet. also it seems like the chiropractor was not educated about infants, so you have an untrained professional working on a subject that doesn't have the same skeletal structure of an adult....
the parents should have been charged with stupidity if that is possible, you take a baby to a peditrician not a chiropractor
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thank goodness the baby lived and the vertibra healed and it doesn't even seem like the parents were involved, just some random chiropractor walking into a hospital ward and cracking necks
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;42343127]Sugar pills relieved my migraines.
The mind is a very powerful healing tool. The truth is your spine isn't some locking mechanical machine that needs constant attention. Chiropractic does little more than release air and give you a mild massage. The rest of it is in your head.[/QUOTE]
The back is a bunch of nerves, bones, and muscles. If you don't think that relieving some of the muscle pain there is going to lead to side effects like relief you're an idiot.
Orthopedic Surgeon is your best bet.
They know their human physiology.
It may be invasive, but it allows more accuracy, and less guess work.
Oh, and they are actually accredited medical professionals, who are specialized for what they do.
The only reason you wouldn't go to one:
#1 - They cost a lot. <--- bad excuse when dealing with your health, particularly your spine/neck.
#2 - Non-invasive.
#3 - You have some prejudice against "big pharma", and medical professionals.
So wait, the baby is still alive? What kind of developmental issues could it see because of this?
The chiropractor I used to go to refused to work on children below the age of ~14. Why anyone would take a baby to the chiropractor is beyond me.
EDIT: Read the whole article. Why would you agree to let a chiropractor do that to your baby at all, regardless of if it was in a hospital?
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;42346638]This is scary to watch.[/QUOTE]
kind of obvious by the way the baby is basically saying "YOU GIANT CUNT LET ME DOWN NOWW AHHHHHHHH" why this crazy bitch shouldn't be doing it
"I won't read criticism"
here's some
[sp]you can fuck off lady.[/sp]
not to be mean to babies, but I actually hope she accidentally ends up breaking a babies neck, and gets her entire life screwed over by a massive lawsuit and baby yoga is forever banned.
My anatomy doctor at University is strongly against chiropractors, while teaching us about the bones.
The profession should just stop, period. It's hardly taught anywhere because of how dangerous and ineffective it is. Physiotherapy is the way to go.
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Just to restate, if you have neck/back/muscle problems then go to a physio, not a chiro. You will save yourself an injury and more harm being put on your body.
You can't tell a baby to stay still, you cant tell them to relax muscles so they can reset them without damaging them. Stupid idea to take a baby to a chiropractor.
you guys need to read the article...the parents didn't take the baby to the chiropractor, the chiropractor walked into a neonatal care unit and performed on the baby without the parent's knowledge.
he fractured the baby's vertibra but the baby will recover completely because the bones are sqiushy
[QUOTE=Badballer;42355882]The profession should just stop, period. It's hardly taught anywhere because of how dangerous and ineffective it is. Physiotherapy is the way to go.
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Just to restate, if you have neck/back/muscle problems then go to a physio, not a chiro. You will save yourself an injury and more harm being put on your body.[/QUOTE]
chiropractors have been fixing my back for a while now and I've had nothing but positive experiences from it.
Physio is also crazy expensive.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;42342885]None that manifest immediately, but as someone who has terrible back problems that are a result of something from birth, I'm on the fence about this, on the one hand, it's tragic that the baby died, but its also equally tragic that there are people who are left suffering and in pain, because of a condition originating from childhood, that could have been dealt with at an early age. And that is a kind of tragedy that will only increase if early age chiropratic treatment is disallowed in australia.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that chiropractors are alternative medicine and aren't actually proven to solve back problems?
With that in mind even if you had this "therapy" at that age it wouldn't have mattered anyways even if it wasnt a crock of shit, and it is. Babies bones haven't even formed yet so even if it did work there's little doubt in my mind that it would have done anything anyways.
Has someone posted the penn and teller episode about this? Or did they take the episodes off YouTube.
I would but I'm tired of posting bullshit vids that pretty much sum up my exact feelings on a subject
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[QUOTE=Badballer;42355882]The profession should just stop, period. It's hardly taught anywhere because of how dangerous and ineffective it is. Physiotherapy is the way to go.
[editline]30th September 2013[/editline]
Just to restate, if you have neck/back/muscle problems then go to a physio, not a chiro. You will save yourself an injury and more harm being put on your body.[/QUOTE]
Better yet do some Pilates.
Well only if you've got a soreness that won't come out. Anything that seems actually dire I'd goto a doctor. They could just as well recommend yoga or Pilates, if your situation is bad they'd probably still recommend doing it just take it easy.
Hell, yoga and Pilates may be apart of your physio workout.
I have mild scoliosis myself. If I'm ever feeling extra shit I find myself a tough class with a young and peppy instructor and go to town. Then I enjoy pure cathartic relief as the days come and pass.
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In fact Anyone having trouble with mild stuff like bodily soreness or strain I highly recommend yoga.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9246yX1u0t8&sns=em[/media]
Penns outrage pretty much matches mine
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Lol of course you feel more free. You just took off a coat full of weights
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