Compulsive liar jailed after making eleventh false rape claim
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[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39726169]because jails are full of violent people and people that are disproportionately likely to be [b]psychopaths who value their own short-term pleasure at the expense of the feelings of other people and long-term consequences[/b]. it isn't a representative sample of the population at large by definition. also the conditions in jail [I]strongly[/I] select for strict dominance hierarchies and the very nature of prison means it's difficult to get away from multiple abusers
i mean yeah power [I]is[/I] a significant aspect of prison rape, no doubt about it, but to say that it's the only explanation (or to say that the explanations needed for prison rape are congruent to rape in society at large) is to be willfully ignorant of male sexual urges[/QUOTE]
Psychopathy doesn't make straight people experience pleasure from gay sex unless they're deriving pleasure from abusing that person
But perhaps it would be better if I said that rape was less about the sex than other factors, instead of saying it's mostly about power
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39726424]Psychopathy doesn't make straight people experience pleasure from gay sex unless they're deriving pleasure from abusing that person[/QUOTE]
what do you mean
the penis is being stimulated
[editline]26th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39726424]But perhaps it would be better if I said that rape was less about the sex than other factors, instead of saying it's mostly about power[/QUOTE]
eh i guess so
i mean in a prison it probably is mostly to do with power but as i said i don't think that's the case in the rest of society
[QUOTE=TonyP;39723367]Who would rape that?[/QUOTE]
okay why would you joke about this with something amazingly unfunny and awkward
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39726455]what do you mean
the penis is being stimulated
[editline]26th February 2013[/editline]
eh i guess so
i mean in a prison it probably is mostly to do with power but as i said i don't think that's the case in the rest of society[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between getting aroused from having power over someone and finding someone hot.
I am pretty sure the idea zeke was getting across was that most rape tends to be around that arousal over power.
[QUOTE=Valnar;39726550]There is a difference between getting aroused from having power over someone and finding someone hot.
I am pretty sure the idea zeke was getting across was that most rape tends to be around that arousal over power.[/QUOTE]
i'm aware of the difference i just disagree
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39726162]If pent up sexual frustration leads to rape then half of Facepunch would be out raping people right now[/QUOTE]
Wait you aren't?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39726455]what do you mean
the penis is being stimulated[/QUOTE]
I'm bi so I don't have a personal frame of reference here but I was under the impression that a straight man would have a hard time keeping it up while fucking another man, much like I'd be unable to do so while having sex with someone who I had absolutely no attraction towards
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39726771]I'm bi so I don't have a personal frame of reference here but I was under the impression that a straight man would have a hard time keeping it up while fucking another man, much like I'd be unable to do so while having sex with someone who I had absolutely no attraction towards[/QUOTE]
i'm bi too so i'm kind of with you in that regard but i conjecture that since the dick doesn't know any different, it must all be in the mind, and if you can rationalize or trick yourself into thinking it's "not gay if balls don't touch" or whatever, or by otherwise feminizing the person receiving in some way, then i think it's entirely possible for an otherwise straight dude to get pleasure out of fucking another guy
i mean how do you think straight people that do gay porn for money stay hard?
feminizing the other guy (words like bitch, sissy, etc) might also play into the whole power thing too so idk
[QUOTE=Tommeh!;39724955]Should've taken authorities far less than 11 offences to penalize her. She got exactly what she deserved, imo.[/QUOTE]
Man I think she deserves more, she should have been given the sentence that would have happened to the man she falsely accused.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;39724186]idk i think being a victim of a sex crime is probably worse[/QUOTE] I think they're equal in the shittiness department. Being accused will majorly fuck up your chances of getting a job, probably get you fired from a job, cause friends and maybe family to become disgusted by you and shun you and a big chance of being sent to prison for over a decade, utterly destroying any chances of rebuilding your life with all options ruined.
Of course there's also the chance the rape could be real and the rapist gets off scot free or something.
She reminds me of that bitch from the movie identity theft, Only a lot worse.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39726771]I'm bi so I don't have a personal frame of reference here but I was under the impression that a straight man would have a hard time keeping it up while fucking another man, much like I'd be unable to do so while having sex with someone who I had absolutely no attraction towards[/QUOTE]
You would be correct.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39726044]no[/QUOTE]
the mentality of a rapist that they get to take control of someone else and force them to witness their power over them, it makes them feel powerful, dominant, and most of all, strong.
Its good that you don't understand this, I sure don't understand it either.
I was going to make a clever joke, but then I saw her face.
[B]MAN THE HARPOONS, LADS. THAR BE TH' GREAT LYING WHALE![/B]
[editline]26th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=TonyP;39723367]Who would rape that?[/QUOTE]
Captain Ahab.
She looks like the octopus woman in little mermaid.
jhahahha who would rape that thing anyways realtalk
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39725800]she should have been jailed the first time[/QUOTE]
that'll sure encourage people to report rapes!
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;39728600]that'll sure encourage people to report rapes![/QUOTE]
Lying to the police and especially courts is a criminal offence.
Things like this makes me fucking sick. She got what she deserved. I was raped some time ago and it's a serious issue that should NEVER be lied about.
[QUOTE=tdnoob;39728658]Lying to the police and especially courts is a criminal offence.[/QUOTE]
so you're telling me if there isn't enough evidence to convict the rapist the victim should go to jail?
Except they discovered they her accusations were false and she even confessed to lying.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;39728813]so you're telling me if there isn't enough evidence to convict the rapist the victim should go to jail?[/QUOTE]
You're confusing insufficient evidence with lying in order to ruin someone's life.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;39728853]Except they discovered they her accusations were false and she even confessed to lying.[/QUOTE]
the only part of the article relating to the first rape she reported was this
[quote]She had made her first false rape claim in 2004 when she was just 13, Southampton Crown Court heard.[/quote]
it doesn't say anywhere she lied
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;39728893]the only part of the article relating to the first rape she reported was this
it doesn't say anywhere she lied[/QUOTE]
[quote]first [b]false[/b] rape claim[/quote]
What do you think false means in this situation?
[QUOTE=tdnoob;39728872]You're confusing insufficient evidence with lying in order to ruin someone's life.[/QUOTE]
In the case it's dealing with in the article yes, that's enough evidence that she was lying. The article only briefly mentions the first accusation and doesn't go into specifics if it was actually classified as false by a court, not just by the article.
[editline]26th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=froztshock;39728916]What do you think false means in this situation?[/QUOTE]
the writer of the article assumed it was false because of her history
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;39728927]In the case it's dealing with in the article yes, that's enough evidence that she was lying. The article only briefly mentions the first accusation and doesn't go into specifics if it was actually classified as false by a court, not just by the article.
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the writer of the article assumed it was false because of her history[/QUOTE]
Prosecutor Jennie Rickman said: ‘There is a history of her making false allegations of this nature and this is the 11th incident.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;39728927]
the writer of the article assumed it was false because of her history[/QUOTE]
I assume that what's said in the daily mail should be taken with a grain or (more) of salt, but I honestly can't find anything that supports this conclusion.
Do you have any insight into how you came to it?
I find it interesting that of the first 2 pages of this thread, about 25% of the responses had to do with the looks of the woman.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39727017]
i mean how do you think straight people that do gay porn for money stay hard?[/QUOTE]
Anything I've heard about the porn industry indicates that viagra is handed out like candy
[QUOTE=Valnar;39729097]I find it interesting that of the first 2 pages of this thread, about 25% of the responses had to do with the looks of the woman.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was pretty dumb.
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