• The Wolverine to be killed off by Marvel
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[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;44644663]I don't see how comic books can even create tension like this anymore when multiverses are this common for superheroes.[/QUOTE] There was never tension for things like this: even in the eighties with the cap/iron man/thor - super-patriot/Rhodes/beta ray bill replacement everyone knew it was a temporary thing intended to drum up sales. This actually has the potential to be around for a year or two, it's been a long time since everyone was sucking off Logan in the nineties.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644771]when did he ever regenerate from being reduced to one cell[/QUOTE] when he fought nitro and was left as an adamantium skeleton [IMG]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104108/1981405-wolverine48_001.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644771]when did he ever regenerate from being reduced to one cell[/QUOTE] well considering all you see is his metal skeleton I think it's safe to assume nearly all of his organic cells got fucked
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;44644734]isn't the point of killing iconic characters shock value? why would you announce ahead of time you're killing off a character.[/QUOTE] It's not about shock value, it's about marketing. The layman will hear about it being reported, and that could result in them buying the issue to see what happens.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;44644708]But they really can't. He's an established character, with this iteration having a history and various attributes. They can't pick something that they've either explicitly or implicitly stated in the past won't actually kill him, it'd drive the comic book nerds fucking crazy.[/QUOTE] You say this like Marvel and DC don't drive people up walls already.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44644789]when he fought nitro and was left as an adamantium skeleton [IMG]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104108/1981405-wolverine48_001.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] not exactly a nuclear explosion and i'm sure something would be left on his bones for him to regenerate
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644828]not exactly a nuclear explosion and i'm sure something would be left on his bones for him to regenerate[/QUOTE] yeah that's the point, something was left in his skull, like one brain cell. It's been a long time since I read that comic, but it made it pretty clear that wasn't much of him to regenerate from. and IIRC Nitro's largest explosions might as well be classified as nuclear blasts
Hasn't everyone died like 100 times already? It will come back as A) series wasn't canon B) all a dream C) alt universe D) all of the above
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644828]not exactly a nuclear explosion and i'm sure something would be left on his bones for him to regenerate[/QUOTE] Or inside his bones. Since they're adamantium coated, I'm sure something inside they're survived to regenerate him from.
didn't he once get his legs torn off by the hulk who then threw them on top of a mountain and like the whole rest of the comic was dedicated to him climbing the mountain as a torso to get his legs back
[QUOTE=Takuat;44644526]The way to kill Wolverine is to drown him. Water is constantly in his lungs, never has a chance to regenerate since he can't breathe, that's how his son died[/QUOTE] Wouldn't that just stick him in some sick state of purgatory between life and death until someone cuts him open and frees his lungs?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644828]not exactly a nuclear explosion and i'm sure something would be left on his bones for him to regenerate[/QUOTE] Yeah but his claws were out when he "died" isn't he basically fucked or have I been under an illusion that he doesn't heal when claws are out?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44644838]yeah that's the point, something was left in his skull, like one brain cell. It's been a long time since I read that comic, but it made it pretty clear that wasn't much of him to regenerate from. [/QUOTE] the issue doesn't really say anything about that [editline]25th April 2014[/editline] it definitely doesn't imply there's a single cell left
[QUOTE=gk99;44644880]Yeah but his claws were out when he "died" isn't he basically fucked or have I been under an illusion that he doesn't heal when claws are out?[/QUOTE] Not as far as I know but I guess that depends on the version of wolverine we're working with. IIRC in Age of Apocalypse he had his adamantium removed, and his healing process sped up exponentially. It turned out his adamantium was poisoning him and he was always fighting off that infection. Apocalypse than binds adamantium to his bones again in a non poisonous way and he becomes massively more powerful as a horseman of the apocalypse [editline]25th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644890]the issue doesn't really say anything about that [editline]25th April 2014[/editline] it definitely doesn't imply there's a single cell left[/QUOTE] He regenerates from a state of having nothing but metal bones but alright I don't really care that's just what I remember from the comic.
Comic book debates are so pointless
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44644890]the issue doesn't really say anything about that [editline]25th April 2014[/editline] it definitely doesn't imply there's a single cell left[/QUOTE] lol even if his entire brain's left you get the point it's fucking crazy to come back from that
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44644935]lol even if his entire brain's left you get the point it's fucking crazy to come back from that[/QUOTE] i'm not saying it's not, i'm saying he never regenerated from a single cell is all
In the current comics, his healing factor was removed.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;44644956]In the current comics, his healing factor was removed.[/QUOTE] really what the fuck was there an in-universe reason or was it just "nah, let's not give him healing powers in this version"
[QUOTE=gk99;44645005]really what the fuck was there an in-universe reason or was it just "nah, let's not give him healing powers in this version"[/QUOTE] it's always good to keep a character fresh (even though they often overdo it) deadpool lost his healing factor once too, which ended up making him a way better fighter considering he had actual weaknesses after that
ive not read the comic but ive heard about it and didn't he only regenerate because of some crystal thing that massively amplified mutation powers so he could regenerate? Like he wouldn't have been able to otherwise? might have been a different story but im pretty sure that's the reason he regenerated from only one cell being left
[QUOTE=AaronM202;44644956]In the current comics, his healing factor was removed.[/QUOTE] Isn't that like, his whole thing? Imagine spider-man without the webs.
yea thats it there lol
[QUOTE=Takuat;44644526]The way to kill Wolverine is to drown him. Water is constantly in his lungs, never has a chance to regenerate since he can't breathe, that's how his son died[/QUOTE] So then just turn him upside down.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;44645059]Isn't that like, his whole thing? Imagine spider-man without the webs.[/QUOTE] Well he's still a character without his healing factor. It adds a sense of threat to him as a person this way. Like they did it pretty well in the new Wolverine film.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;44645059]Isn't that like, his whole thing? Imagine spider-man without the webs.[/QUOTE] He has all his other powers still. Also Spider-Man sometimes doesnt have webs. [QUOTE=gk99;44645005]really what the fuck was there an in-universe reason or was it just "nah, let's not give him healing powers in this version"[/QUOTE] Sentient nanomachine virus.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;44645059]Imagine spider-man without the webs.[/QUOTE]Spider-Man couldn't actually produce webs until the movies. Comic Spidey invented wrist gadgets to make it [i]seem[/i] like he could do that, and only gained the ability to naturally produce web after the series co-opted it from said movies.
[QUOTE=Pennywise;44645100]Spider-Man couldn't actually produce webs until the movies. Comic Spidey invented wrist gadgets to make it [I]seem[/I] like he could do that, and only gained the ability to naturally produce web after the series co-opted it from said movies.[/QUOTE] Uh yeah I know, how does that change my point which was Wolverine's healing is one of his most iconic features. healing and claws. I doubt many non hardcore fans even know he has other powers.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;44645059]Isn't that like, his whole thing? Imagine spider-man without the webs.[/QUOTE] Yeah having no healing pretty much renders his claws obsolete. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQ2RVqJCNM[/media]
for the record they removed his regen in a recent arc EDIT: whoop, 2late
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