• Continuing the current trend of distressing news for this month, Formosan Clouded Leopard Confirmed
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[QUOTE=IPK;40567748]And great Ameristan protects them from "the commies" even though PRC will probably protect the animals there[/QUOTE] What? I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic anymore. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] Those fucking PRC assholes keep polluting and toxic sand and shit keeps being carried over here into Taiwan by the wind, thanks to those jerks.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40563096]It's hard to imagine there are people out there so shallow and vapid that they'll pay so much money for furs that poachers will illegally hunt a species to complete extinction. The poachers aren't the real issue, the real issue is the insatiable demand and willingness to pay high enough prices to make the risks and costs worth it. It's like the tigers going extinct because Chinese people are still backward and ignorant enough to think that wine made out of tiger nuts will cure erectile dysfunction or something.[/QUOTE] What's idiotic is that people trying to solve this problem think that penalties such as fines and short-term improsonment are going to do anything to stop them. What you must do is allow these animals to be domesticated. Give poachers an outlet. Because there's suddenly a legal way to obtain skins, we can make the penalties for illegally obtaining them harsher, draconian even. Sure, it sucks knowing there will be animals being raised to be skinned, but at least there will be a legal, sustainable outlet for obtaining them.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;40563926]The demand is obviously there, so why can't we prosecute them for having a rare animal fur?[/QUOTE] This is actually a good idea. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] Assuming that by "rare" you mean "endangered species".
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;40563095][t]http://i.imgur.com/gJr5kVK.png[/t] :smithicide: [editline].[/editline] If I could get away with it, I would personally kill poachers myself.[/QUOTE] I have a friend who worked as a ranger in south africa for a while and he said they do actually kill poachers out there because if they try to intervene non lethally then it's likely the poacher will shoot the rangers.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;40563095] If I could get away with it, I would personally kill poachers myself.[/QUOTE] iirc, in some African nature preserves, if you're a ranger/assigned to do so, you can.
[QUOTE=Killer900;40561597]Hunt the poachers[/QUOTE] If hunting poachers was a legal thing I could make money from, I'd start immediately.
It's a shame. Most big cats are going extinct it seems.
Is possession of endangered furs criminalized, or just poaching? Maybe things would change if some rich white women wound up in jail for buying clouded leopard coats.
Why wouldn't the poachers just breed them?
Hunt the people buying the fur. We are not living in the stone age anymore. You don't need to wear fur from an exotic animal to survive. And even though the cat itself looks beautiful, wearing his fur would look tacky.
[QUOTE=Noss;40571983]Why wouldn't the poachers just breed them?[/QUOTE] Too much effort. You need animal handling skills and money. Chances are that if you're poaching you have neither of those and really need money.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40571961]Is possession of endangered furs criminalized, or just poaching? Maybe things would change if some rich white women wound up in jail for buying clouded leopard coats.[/QUOTE] Well, I don't think most of the poaching is due to people wanting furs. From my knowledge generally a lot of the poaching stuff is done for traditional medicine, aphrodisiacs, and other stupid tribal shit. Although I defiantly agree with criminalizing owning this stuff.
Shit like this makes me want to go to volunteer for the WWF or something, absolutely heart-wrenching (not the World Wrestling Federation either, before anyone says it... )
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;40561964]You may now continue your life as my rug.[/QUOTE] Woah, you're edgy and cool.
[QUOTE=0FucksGiven;40571482]If hunting poachers was a legal thing I could make money from, I'd start immediately.[/QUOTE] I'd decorate my house in their hide.
Well they were poached during the Japanese colonial era (1895-1945). So most, if not all of the poachers are long dead, and this dates to a time where I suspect regulation and wildlife preservation weren't such a priority. Have any living specimens actually been recorded since the end of the war? It seems they've been extinct for the best part of over half a century. I'm optimistic that in this day and age the authorities in Taiwan are doing a much better job at conservation, and that poaching has disappeared, though I have no idea really.
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