• George Zimmerman found NOT GUILTY
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[QUOTE=themooselord;41458578]The word came from thuggee, the indian word for thief. They used to assault travellers by garroting them after gaining their trust.[/QUOTE] And they'd also rip people's hearts out with magic before lowering them into pits of liquid fire. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J-RRv5PcKA[/media] Praise Shiva.
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;41458717]Did this thread really deserve 300+ winners? This is not some kind of heroic act that should be celebrated in my opinion.[/QUOTE] I am happy the jury and everyone involved acted without bias, because of the heavy media influence and the people screaming for blood, he was still aquitted of the murder he was accused of. He was proven to have acted in self defense
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;41458717]Did this thread really deserve 300+ winners? This is not some kind of heroic act that should be celebrated in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Triumph of the US justice system in spite of media distorting and tampering with the case. It's not so much that anyone likes Zimmerman, it's just that we hate what the media has done to distort the fair enactment of justice.
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;41458717]Did this thread really deserve 300+ winners? This is not some kind of heroic act that should be celebrated in my opinion.[/QUOTE] An unbiased jury that managed to look at the facts and not feed in to sensationalism. That's pretty good in my opinion.
I like how every celebrity now thinks its their civil duty to spew their retarded and incorrect opinions of the trial and how they think some massive blow to justice was done
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;41458717]Did this thread really deserve 300+ winners? This is not some kind of heroic act that should be celebrated in my opinion.[/QUOTE] fp will always back anyone claiming self-defence
[QUOTE=Buzzin;41456482]Pretty pointless to argue that Zimmerman didn't listen to the dispatcher ,when questioned everytime, his story was the same. He was walking back to his car. Add that to the fact that Trayvon cut through a neighborhood, where I assume cars can't drive on sidewalks or lawns. [img]http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/gallery/trayvon-martin-crime-scene-photos/slide_305143_2617618_free.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Even if Zimmerman didn't listen to the dispatcher. Who cares? They aren't the law Another thing that tips you off that he's innocent is a detective sat down with Zimmerman shortly after it happened and told him that there might be a video of the entire incident, and Zimmerman said Thank God and was relieved
[QUOTE=Pelican;41456638] see how stupid that is? matches your brain power [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem[/url][/QUOTE] Uuuuuuh Is this a joke post or are you seriously contradicting yourself this much
[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;41448350]It's not surprising. If you read the definitions of manslaughter and 2nd degree murder, neither of those definitions fit the actions Zimmerman took.[/QUOTE] Basically this.
Well its too bad Eric Holder and Barack Obama are holding him to trial again for "abusing TrayVon Martin's civil rights" abuse of executive power? Yeah I think so. Unfortunately double jeopardy doesn't come into this because it is a different court.
[QUOTE=sethcaron;41456037]I guess you're right along with deadoon. People are too stupid in these days which is upsetting to see the world like this.[/QUOTE] I love this, essentially you're wrong but don't want to admit it, so you're going to pretend that somehow I'm stupid instead. George Zimmerman was found not guilty, thus you cannot punish him, end of. [editline]14th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;41459356]Even if Zimmerman didn't listen to the dispatcher. Who cares? They aren't the law Another thing that tips you off that he's innocent is a detective sat down with Zimmerman shortly after it happened and told him that there might be a video of the entire incident, and Zimmerman said Thank God and was relieved[/QUOTE] Zimmerman was stupid for following him, but Trayvon was even more of an idiot for attacking. Being followed does not give you the right to start attacking people, the people defending him seem to be unable to grasp this, it was his fault he got shot
They were talking about Zimmerman on ABC World News, and they were trying their best to villainize him.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41459868]They were talking about Zimmerman on ABC World News, and they were trying their best to villainize him.[/QUOTE] news source trying to gain viewers ??? aiiieee
[QUOTE=Fangz;41459868]They were talking about Zimmerman on ABC World News, and they were trying their best to villainize him.[/QUOTE] It's important to clarify that the "they" in this case was a panelist that ABC brought on to talk about the trial, not actual ABC pundits/anchors
[QUOTE=Fangz;41459868]They were talking about Zimmerman on ABC World News, and they were trying their best to villainize him.[/QUOTE] Zimmerman is the KKKiller of innocent young children saints that didn't do anything wrong, it's a plot by the white man [img]http://puu.sh/3CNPV.png[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling / racism" - MaxOfS2D))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;41459913]It's important to clarify that the "they" in this case was a panelist that ABC brought on to talk about the trial, not actual ABC pundits/anchors[/QUOTE] Showing pictures of Zimmerman that makes him look sinister has nothing to do with panelists, also the main Anchor did most of the bias as well.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41460135]Showing pictures of Zimmerman that makes him look sinister has nothing to do with panelists, also the main Anchor did most of the bias as well.[/QUOTE] What pictures? Also "did most of the bias"? What does that even mean?
Snowden: your freedoms are slowly being taken away, rebel! Fight! Media: mmm, should we play the racism or homophobia card this time? What the hell, let's go with racism! America: hurrrrrrrdurrrrrrrrr white black hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr This thread is sad as fuck and I'm not even american. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Then why reply?" - MaxOfS2D))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;41460169]What pictures? Also "did most of the bias"? What does that even mean?[/QUOTE] The Anchor described him as emotionless and cold several times within the broadcast. Also the over-sensationalized the response on twitter from last night, referring it to the voice of the people. Also every time they showed him on the screen, they showed him with a huge smirk on his face.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41460212]The Anchor described him as emotionless and cold several times within the broadcast. Also the over-sensationalized the response on twitter from last night, referring it to the voice of the people. Also every time they showed him on the screen, they showed him with a huge smirk on his face.[/QUOTE] I somehow missed the anchor calling him emotionless and cold. Was he referring to his behavior in the courtroom? Because if you watched the trial his camera frequently showed him as passive. And the grinning was probably just showing his relief.
during this whole thing i played a drinking game with my friends, we took a shot whenever we heard "boy" "young" "innocent" "unarmed" and "child". needless to say we all passed out in a few hours
Man, I'm glad Zimmerman was found not guilty. His life is pretty much ruined anyway because of this... Aren't there any laws out there prohibiting different news outlets from doing shit like this?
[QUOTE=ejonkou;41460345]Man, I'm glad Zimmerman was found not guilty. His life is pretty much ruined anyway because of this... Aren't there any laws out there prohibiting different news outlets from doing shit like this?[/QUOTE] There are specific laws against libel, slander, and defamation of character but if news media wasn't allowed to do commentary it would be an awfully boring production.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;41459826]Zimmerman was stupid for following him, but Trayvon was even more of an idiot for attacking. Being followed does not give you the right to start attacking people, the people defending him seem to be unable to grasp this, it was his fault he got shot[/QUOTE] I think this is the most important thing. Every piece I've read defending the prosecution just can't quite admit that Trayvon was beating the shit out of Zimmerman. They can't justify his pummeling, so they just ignore it. I haven't read a single piece which has tried to justify it or even acknowledge it. Here's a good editorial piece I read from a black college professor at my University: [quote] Because as I think about what certainly occurred that evening, and what likely did, even if I give every single concession to George Zimmerman’s contested version of events (ie: Trayvon hit him first, Trayvon pushed Zimmerman to the ground, Trayvon beat him up, Trayvon saw the gun –- which is amazingly unlikely in the blackness of the night with the weapon concealed, but let’s just say that happened), I can’t help but think to myself: Good. Good for you, Trayvon Martin, for doing what I would hope to God my brother would do if he was walking down the street with a package of Skittles and was followed and confronted by a man with a decade of life and 70 pounds over him. Because what people don’t understand about this unfortunate situation is that I feel some degree of fear when I’m doing nothing wrong, like in the restaurant, rest stop, and convenience store, and my very presence causes someone to feel afraid. And if you aren’t safe with a package of Skittles, walking around your family’s cul-de-sac in Delaware, wearing your Old Navy flip-flops, then when are you ever safe? If you find yourself approached by some stranger, why can’t you run from them without it being assumed that you’re fleeing the scene of some crime you’re destined to commit? If you’re a teenager and confronted by an adult you perceive to be creepy, why can’t you fight for your life? Stand your ground? And why, if you get killed after all of that, would people say it must have been your fault?[/quote] [url]https://www.facebook.com/notes/case-gaines/i-have-met-george-zimmerman/10151681580949484[/url] This is a post from a college academic. And yet he's still saying, "You are justified to hit someone if you are being followed, and I hope you do too." I respect the fact that POC are pissed off about being racially profiled. I cannot imagine the sort of fear, anxiety, and stress that causes in someone's life. Let's be real - this case would NEVER have happened if Trayvon was some white dude strolling along the avenue. But, here's an interesting tidbit too about racial profiling - [i]not every POC responds by beating the shit out of their "stalker."[/i] You cannot justify Trayvon's pummeling. You cannot justify Trayvon hitting Zimmerman (unless Zimmerman hit first, which is incredibly unlikely). You do not have ANY right to hit a human being unless you are defending yourself from physical danger, and there was no moment in their confrontation that Trayvon was in physical danger. Zimmerman was in danger of losing his life the moment that Trayvon straddled Zimmerman. And there is clear, forensic, eyewitness, and [i]physical[/i] proof that Trayvon was surpassing self-defense and beating the shit out of Zimmerman. If anyone in that situation had a gun, they would shoot Trayvon too. Just to save their own life.
[QUOTE=Reimu;41460363]Stuff Reimu said that I'm not going to quote in it's entirety[/QUOTE] It cracks me up how so many media outlets tried to spin it into Zimmerman initiating every part of this. If I recall they found his cellphone or something and it basically had Trayvon saying he was high and looking for a fight, yet they dismissed it and said it couldn't be used in court. Shows what level of bias they were working with considering the majority of computer content can be used in a court of law now adays. That pummeling Trayvon was giving is already a clear piece of evidence, if someone was being ' stalked ', you wouldn't pummel them and immediatley begin the route to try and take their life, at most you'd punch them then run off.
[QUOTE=ejonkou;41460345]Man, I'm glad Zimmerman was found not guilty. His life is pretty much ruined anyway because of this... Aren't there any laws out there prohibiting different news outlets from doing shit like this?[/QUOTE] Its not like those laws would do any good in today's emotionally charged, social-justice filled 'Murrica
[QUOTE=Mr.95;41460588]It cracks me up how so many media outlets tried to spin it into Zimmerman initiating every part of this. If I recall they found his cellphone or something and it basically had Trayvon saying he was high and looking for a fight, yet they dismissed it and said it couldn't be used in court. Shows what level of bias they were working with considering the majority of computer content can be used in a court of law now adays. That pummeling Trayvon was giving is already a clear piece of evidence, if someone was being ' stalked ', you wouldn't pummel them and immediatley begin the route to try and take their life, at most you'd punch them then run off.[/QUOTE] I honestly think the confrontation became heated, Trayvon hit first, and, under high stress conditions, Trayvon lost control and started beating the shit out of Zimmerman. By monitoring heart beat rates, psychological studies have found that, once you reach a high stress level which exceeds a perfect adrenaline high (i.e. when time "slows down" and your movements become fine-tuned), your higher rationality significantly decreases. This is why Rodney King happened, according to Malcolm Gladwell - the high speed police chase had the four police officers so riled up, they lost their rationale and started beating the shit out of Rodney King. In both cases - that's not a justification. Rodney King was brutally assaulted, and Trayvon Martin was threatening Zimmerman's life. Just because your rationale is not functioning does not mean your self-control is obliterated. But I don't think it's so simple as "Trayvon could not have felt threatened because a threatened person does not look for a fight." If anything, Trayvon was so nervous when Zimmerman was approaching, he became fueled with adrenaline and lost his cool.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;41459826]I love this, essentially you're wrong but don't want to admit it, so you're going to pretend that somehow I'm stupid instead. George Zimmerman was found not guilty, thus you cannot punish him, end of. [editline]14th July 2013[/editline] Zimmerman was stupid for following him, but Trayvon was even more of an idiot for attacking. Being followed does not give you the right to start attacking people, the people defending him seem to be unable to grasp this, it was his fault he got shot[/QUOTE] That's why I keep saying By Law, he's innocent of Murder. I don't know why people think otherwise, All the evidence suggests it, and matches up with Zimmerman's accounts. And if SIX women, 5 with children can agree on it, then holy shit what more do you need? Following someone as Zimmerman did is not illegal. And looking at Martin's past which wasn't allowed to be brought up in court though Zimmerman's was, Zimmerman's suspicions were right on the money. Nothing BAD about Trayvon was allowed in court at all, other than SOME of the evidence at the scene of the crime. It was completely ridiculous and even if Zimmerman was convicted, there's so many grounds for appeal it's not funny
So has anyone else heard this version of the story? Zman sees Martin in the neighboorhood appearing to do what looks like scoping out houses. Zman stops to call a NEN (Non Emergency Number) to report his sighting. Martin sees Zman, runs off in a T. Dispatcher asks him what the address that he saw Martin run off to, gets out of his car to see what the address was, and on his way back to his car Martin jumps him, with the conversation being along the lines of "M: You got a problem with me? Z: No. M: Well you do now" I could be completely wrong on this one, but that's the story I heard.
The version I've heard is that Zimmerman sees Martin walk on the sidewalk, he freaks out and calls 911, the police tell him it's unnecessary to confront him, and instead he follows the kid for a few minutes. Then, Martin confronts Zimmerman. From there details become sketchy. But eyewitnesses - who also call police - hear someone screaming "HELP HELP" and see two men struggling on the curb. One of them is straddling the other and pummeling him. Then a gunshot goes off. By the time police arrive, Trayvon's been shot dead by Zimmerman. [editline]15th July 2013[/editline] In court though it's been considered fact that a.) Trayvon straddled and pummeled Zimmerman, without the vice-versa happening. b.) Therefore, the cry for help was most likely from Zimmerman, as the cry happened after the pummeling began. c.) The gunshot from Zimmerman's pistol goes off, going through Trayvon's heart and killing him.
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