• Facebook adding new gender options, preferred pronoun choices for users
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[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;43900281]How the fuck can facebook add this but[I] still[/I] not add a dislike button?[/QUOTE] could you not just ignore something if you dislike it nobody really cares if you don't like something
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43900294]because this isnt inherently negative whereas a dislike button is?[/QUOTE] I wasn't saying they should add it for the reason of being "inherently negative"; I'm only saying it because people have cried on facebook since its first inception to have a dislike button, and I've never seen people asking for new way to identify their gender on FB. Sorry if I come off that way
[QUOTE=Appox;43900099]yeah but when you cut out w/e title they wanna call themselves it's either male or female. Gender is black and white[/QUOTE] it's sex that's black and white, not gender sex =/= gender
[QUOTE=.Lain;43900304]could you not just ignore something if you dislike it nobody really cares if you don't like something[/QUOTE] A fair point; fuck. Personally I don't give a shit what FB does. I'm all for this effort towards gender equality.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43900323]it's sex that's black and white, not gender sex =/= gender[/QUOTE] drop the gender from profiles, just add sex then. Gender's kinda meaningless if you can call it w/e
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;43900280]Nah. I think if they could, it'd just allow for transphobes to try to make a very stupid point, and I dunno, being able to put stupid shit would just kind of cheapen the whole thing.[/QUOTE] Well then that's their fault for being transphobic.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;43899768]I'm most likely wrong, but it refers to people who haven't went through a full transition yet.[/QUOTE] If that's what the * refers to, then what is the difference between Trans Man and Trans Male?
[QUOTE=Appox;43900375]drop the gender from profiles, just add sex then. Gender's kinda meaningless if you can call it w/e[/QUOTE] It's almost like Facebook is a social website, so you should use what matters socially (your gender) instead of what matters medically (your sex).
Literally hurts no one and helps minorities. I'd like to hear an argument against this that isn't based off an arbitrary standard of what a valid gender identity is.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;43900408]It's almost like Facebook is a social website, so you should use what matters socially (your gender) instead of what matters medically (your sex).[/QUOTE] put it in your bio/about me front and center sure but why even try to keep up with multiple options if it's treated as I can call myself w/e
[QUOTE=Splash Attack;43900398]If that's what the * refers to, then what is the difference between Trans Man and Trans Male?[/QUOTE] I believe it means the opposite; people who have fully transitioned.
[QUOTE=Appox;43900438]put it in your bio/about me front and center sure but why even try to keep up with multiple options if it's treated as I can call myself w/e[/QUOTE] Because your gender (how you call yourself in social situations) is you know, kind of an important thing other people should know?
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43899464]Pretty sure he is joking.[/QUOTE] Poe's law.
[QUOTE=dai;43900090]this is pretty cool for the people who want it, but sometimes I'm really put off by people who insist on a specific set of pronouns that aren't there for much other than to be new pronouns. I understand neutral ones but some people go way overboard on stuff. still, if it's what makes you more comfortable with representing yourself, all the power to you. The only self-identifying thing I refuse to believe is anything but an elaborate ruse is this weird sect of people some friends of mine found where they identify with conditions they don't have, IE person who doesn't need glasses identifying as short sighted, people with fully functional legs considering themselves paraplegic, etc. [b]There's even "trans-fat", aka 'fat person trapped in a skinny body, who wants to be treated as if they're obese despite their physical appearance'.[/b][/QUOTE] Isn't that an eating disorder? Well sort of, I remember there was one that's skinny people who're convinced they're fat.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;43900418]Literally hurts no one and helps minorities. I'd like to hear an argument against this that isn't based off an arbitrary standard of what a valid gender identity is.[/QUOTE] Put absolutely nothing on FB that relates to gender on any profile. What's your opinion on that? (people already fake being girls/guys/trans/gay/bi on FB so would taking out the gender option entirely be a good thing?) people even have FB profiles for their cats
[QUOTE=Appox;43900438]put it in your bio/about me front and center sure but why even try to keep up with multiple options if it's treated as I can call myself w/e[/QUOTE] gender identity is far more relevant to facebook than sex is though
[QUOTE=Splash Attack;43900398]If that's what the * refers to, then what is the difference between Trans Man and Trans Male?[/QUOTE] most likely just preference, though one could argue that choice could be a nuance between being 'male' and being 'man(ly)', etc. also I'd assume the * indicates in-progress but I honestly haven't seen it used before.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;43900496]Poe's law.[/QUOTE] Instantly thought Occam's Razor.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;43900520]Put absolutely nothing on FB that relates to gender on any profile. What's your opinion on that? (people already fake being girls/guys/trans/gay/bi on FB so would taking out the gender option entirely be a good thing?) people even have FB profiles for their cats[/QUOTE] i don't see why Facebook's devs should be discouraged from implementing this because of jokers - this happens with about any software feature. there's people who are going to use it legitimately.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;43900520]Put absolutely nothing on FB that relates to gender on any profile. What's your opinion on that? (people already fake being girls/guys/trans/gay/bi on FB so would taking out the gender option entirely be a good thing?) people even have FB profiles for their cats[/QUOTE] waah some people do stupid things let's take everything away from everybody and never do something that can help people feel like their rather unique situations are recognized in society this is just as pathetic of an excuse as the 'bestiality is next' argument against allowing gay marriage
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43899738]What does the * mean?[/QUOTE] I remember it being something to distinguish when trans is used as an umbrella term (in which case it means a lot) as opposed to when it's used specifically to transsexual (as in MTF/FTM), or some other instance when it's referring to one specific thing within the "transgender umbrella". I might be wrong though.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;43900465]Because your gender (how you call yourself in social situations) is you know, kind of an important thing other people should know?[/QUOTE] why should you have to identify your gender in social situations (also who does?). If genders free form now be w/e and we'll talk about something else. Should be opposed to labeling people
[QUOTE=Appox;43900438]put it in your bio/about me front and center sure but why even try to keep up with multiple options if it's treated as I can call myself w/e[/QUOTE] That's what we were doing. But this sort of recognizes it officially, and helps carve Facebook out as an LGBT friendly website. This has been implemented in such a manner that it literally doesn't interfere with you at all if you simply identify as male or female, so what does it matter?
[QUOTE=dai;43900569]waah some people do stupid things let's take everything away from everybody and never do something that can help people feel like their rather unique situations are recognized in society this is just as pathetic of an excuse as the 'bestiality is next' argument against allowing gay marriage[/QUOTE] I genuinely just put the thought out there to see what peoples opinions on that would be if it were to happen; I agree with your stance But still, what would be so bad if they did take the gender option away entirely? People wouldn't even have to think about that aspect of the site and focus on what the "social network" is generally used for.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43899738]What does the * mean?[/QUOTE] It's a wildcard character, like you use in search terms, programming etc. Basically means anyone that doesn't fit under the tradition gender binary, but not always necessarily identify as transsexual or transgender.
[QUOTE=dai;43900090]There's even "trans-fat", aka 'fat person trapped in a skinny body, who wants to be treated as if they're obese despite their physical appearance'.[/QUOTE] wait can I make people treat me as if I'm beautiful despite my physical imperfections?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43900164]well sex is biological, gender is a social construct. which is why your sex is male or female but gender could be different things[/QUOTE] People say this a lot but that's not the definition of gender, gender can refer to both mental gender AND physical sex. They are synonyms.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43900036]They could just replace it with a blank box to type in so you can type in whatever you like.[/QUOTE] tbh, the system they are showing here will do the job just fine for now. the identities mentioned in the article are reasonable while most of the ones that aren't are either really obscure, nonexistent or only used by special snowflakes
Wonder how this will affect those targeted ads on the right one time my friend changed my "interested in" to men and till this day sometimes I get "meet up with super hot gay men in your area!" ugh
Pretty awesome they did this, zero negatives, only positives. Glad Facebook finally got around to doing it.
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