• New 'Beauty and the Beast' to feature Disney's first 'exclusively gay moment' in film
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[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51896654]wtf does this mean? do you go around wondering if the heterosexual characters have a reason to be straight, too?[/QUOTE] Your argument would work better if we weren't talking about a story where the main characters have to be straight or the same gender for the story to continue as planned. We don't need token gay characters. Going "look this pre-established minor character from a pre-existing story is gay give us praise" does nothing but pissed people off at worst and make people shrug and go "cool" at best. The best way to make sexuality accepted is to stop making a huge fucking deal about it like it's abnormal.
[QUOTE=gk99;51900175]Your argument would work better if we weren't talking about a story where the main characters have to be straight or the same gender for the story to continue as planned. We don't need token gay characters. Going "look this pre-established minor character from a pre-existing story is gay give us praise" does nothing but pissed people off at worst and make people shrug and go "cool" at best. The best way to make sexuality accepted is to stop making a huge fucking deal about it like it's abnormal.[/QUOTE] But what you're saying makes no sense. Isn't integrating gay people into mass media an important part of normalizing being gay for society at large? The only people 'making a huge fucking deal about it like it's abnormal' are the ones upset that it's happening. It's not like LeFou being revealed as gay changes his character or role in the story one iota - he was always a big fan of Gaston, and even as kids watching the animated film there was that suspicion. So... why are you complaining, again? If you're making a character gay in a way that it'll totally change his personality or role, it is understandably annoying. This makes no difference at all, and yet [I]certain[/I] people are still up in arms about it.
Not gonna lie, I instinctively matched the candle dude with the clock dude. I was imagining he would use his wick to clean his clock, if you know what I'm saying.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;51899610] It's like when they made the main characters of SW a woman, a black guy and a latino. I REALLY want to forgett all about this PC bullcrap and enjoy things, but I know somewhere there's a board of executives thinking about these things to appeal to certain audiences. It's REALLY hard to not go looking for ulterior motives.[/QUOTE] I'm going to be completely honest, I think stuff like this is totally on you. Every single film that is held up as an example of PC agenda being shoehorned into something (besides ghostbusters but that was actually terrible) just hasn't jumped out at me like that until after someone kicks up a huge stink about it on the internet. Especially star wars. When I first saw the main characters, I thought "That girl has a cool haircut, isn't that the dude from attack the block?". I'm pretty passionate about this stuff and yet thoughts of diversity and being inclusive didn't even register until people complaining about it made me notice something I thought was pretty great anyway. I guess the bottom line for me is that you can't complain about how shoehorned and awkward gay/female/whatever characters feel when you seem to be going out of your way to be bothered by them. It wont feel normal until people stop reacting so hard every time they think a film has done it. [editline]2nd March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=ThePanther;51900507]Not gonna lie, I instinctively matched the candle dude with the clock dude. I was imagining he would use his wick to clean his clock, if you know what I'm saying.[/QUOTE] Yeah I figured this was what they were doing too before opening the thread.
As long as Gaston tears his shirt open to display his chest hair, the movie will be just fine
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