Free To Play: The Movie - out on 19th of March 2014
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Competitive tournament gaming has been around for fucking ages I'm pretty sure.
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[QUOTE=Durrsly;43973091]Quake 3>Dota 2[/QUOTE]
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Hell doom 1 had competitive gaming
[QUOTE=TheHydra;43981025]lol football players don't just play at games. they spend hours practicing and working out to be in peak physical and mental condition to play the game. remember when the polar vortex happened? some players got frostbite because they still had to practice in it.[/QUOTE]
Let's be honest, actual professional esport players are clocking in at least 8 hours of competitive high level playing, drilling and practice a day, every day as well. The workload may be different, but it's also very high.
i just honestly dont grasp why we need a documentary about something like this.
really, the only people that will watch it are the people that play dota 2, and they already know everything the documentary is going to document so it's pretty much redundant. like making a documentary on mojang and minecraft. It's really a specialized interest that you're either really into or really not into. No one new to gaming (or dota) is going to watch this. the documentary is pandering to an audience that doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;43981326]i just honestly dont grasp why we need a documentary about something like this.
really, the only people that will watch it are the people that play dota 2, and they already know everything the documentary is going to document so it's pretty much redundant. like making a documentary on mojang and minecraft. It's really a specialized interest that you're either really into or really not into. No one new to gaming (or dota) is going to watch this. the documentary is pandering to an audience that doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
so just because you're not the target audience, it means a target audience doesn't exist?
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;43981326]i just honestly dont grasp why we need a documentary about something like this.
really, the only people that will watch it are the people that play dota 2, and they already know everything the documentary is going to document so it's pretty much redundant. like making a documentary on mojang and minecraft. It's really a specialized interest that you're either really into or really not into. No one new to gaming (or dota) is going to watch this. the documentary is pandering to an audience that doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
that's like saying most people wouldn't like the documentary senna because it only appeals to racing enthusiasts. which is completely wrong because senna is an excellent movie (and i don't enjoy racing one bit). documentaries usually have an underlying human element that everyone can relate to.
these guys have the chance to make more money out of video games than I might make in my entire life.
I know the same thing applies to football/soccer players, but god damn. I wish I was that good at video games.
[QUOTE=The DooD;43981132]Competitive tournament gaming has been around for fucking ages I'm pretty sure.
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It's about the competitive MOBA scene (Dota 2 players) and not about E-Sports in general. And the guy is completely right, MOBAs just weren't that big, 10 years ago.
MOBA's are ruining this generation.
I think the point they're trying to make with "it wasn't a thing 10 years ago" is that competitive gaming has gained a shitload of momentum in the latest ~3 years and there are more tournaments and money involved than ever before. It's turning mainstream. But of course FP is going to argue semantics.
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Case in point, Dreamhack recently moved their largest e-sport stage to a nearby hockey arena to fit the audiences
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[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;43982721]MOBA's are ruining this generation.[/QUOTE]
holy fuck my sides
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;43976879]competitive gaming wasn't a thing 10 years ago
just like its not a thing now
people who make this comparison sound like they've never engaged in physical activity in their lives[/QUOTE]
That's only because you live in America, where being a gamer is still kind of taboo. You're the kind of person who would call someone a scrub right up until they school you, and then you'd say "at least I have a life!".
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;43982721]MOBA's are ruining this generation.[/QUOTE]
I think MOBAs are shit, but I have no idea how they're ruining an entire generation. Explain.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;43982993] I think MOBAs are shit, but I have no idea how they're ruining an entire generation. Explain.[/QUOTE]
Well I was over-exaggerating, but christ, the fucking fanbases are overwhelming. I don't see the appeal in the games besides a large character roster.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;43983092]Well I was over-exaggerating, but christ, the fucking fanbases are overwhelming. I don't see the appeal in the games besides a large character roster.[/QUOTE]
well the thing with having a large character roster means there's going to be a ton of variety in your games, no two games will feel two much alike -- maybe that's putting it a bit too far, but everyone builds all of these characters differently in skill build or item build, lanes them differently, or puts them in different roles overall. you would need to understand firsthand to get why the playerbase is overwhelming, as there's a lot more to why people play the game so constantly.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;43983092] I don't see the appeal in the games besides a large character roster.[/QUOTE]
Teamplay, creating strategies and trying them out. And having fun, yes believe it or not. Not everybody is a jerk.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;43982721]MOBA's are ruining this generation.[/QUOTE]
darn kids why cant we go back to the good ol days of serious nukem and duke sam
The documentary itself looks like a joke, but to me, that's mostly because it's a humongous plug to Dota 2 in spite of the fact that it advertises itself as the "Biggest E-Sports documentary ever." The concept of E-sports isn't the bad thing, the players are okay, it's not their fault they enjoy a game and earn reasonable amounts of money in playing it, it's the fact that the documentary ignorantly pushes aside the true origins of the whole thing in order to promote their game.
edit: then again, E-sports as a term is a joke to me.
[QUOTE=Zoran;43988084]The documentary itself looks like a joke, but to me, that's mostly because it's a humongous plug to Dota 2 in spite of the fact that it advertises itself as the "Biggest E-Sports documentary ever." The concept of E-sports isn't the bad thing, it's the fact that the documentary ignorantly pushes aside the true origins of the whole thing in order to promote their game.[/QUOTE]
considering you think the documentary is all about dota 2 and only dota 2, then no wonder you think the documentary looks like a joke.
it's about the lives of dendi, hyhy, and fear before the international and what dota has done for them in their childhoods.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;43988119]considering you think the documentary is all about dota 2 and only dota 2, then no wonder you think the documentary looks like a joke.
it's about the lives of dendi, hyhy, and fear before the international and what dota has done for them in their childhoods.[/QUOTE]
I include the players to be a large portion of Dota 2 as a whole. If it were a general E-sports documentary, they'd cite Starcraft, League, hell, maybe even AoS. It's great that Dota helped them get past troubles in their lives, in fact, it's helped me, too. It's just that it seems a bit far fetched for it to be called an e-sports documentary when, if anything, it's about Dota 2 and its players. It also seems as though they did not research much at all since they shrugged off the existence of Quake in its competitive glory.
I have no idea how people can get into MOBAs.
How do you get past the inevitable condescending jerk that calls you a faggot for being new to the game?
I'd really have no motivation to play if that constantly happens.
Why is this called "Free to Play"
"Free to Play" sounds like a documentary about the industry of free to play games, or at least the industry of [I]A[/I] free to play game
But it's not even related to that, it's about esports
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;43988350]I have no idea how people can get into MOBAs.
How do you get past the inevitable condescending jerk that calls you a faggot for being new to the game?
I'd really have no motivation to play if that constantly happens.[/QUOTE]
mute options. also playing with friends can kinda solve that
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;43988350]I have no idea how people can get into MOBAs.
How do you get past the inevitable condescending jerk that calls you a faggot for being new to the game?
I'd really have no motivation to play if that constantly happens.[/QUOTE]
realise that the people saying that to you at the beginning are playing with you because they suck balls at the game too
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;43988354]Why is this called "Free to Play"
"Free to Play" sounds like a documentary about the industry of free to play games, or at least the industry of [I]A[/I] free to play game
But it's not even related to that, it's about esports[/QUOTE]
once you watch the documentary you'll realize why it's called free to play.
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[QUOTE=Zoran;43988213]I include the players to be a large portion of Dota 2 as a whole. If it were a general E-sports documentary, they'd cite Starcraft, League, hell, maybe even AoS. It's great that Dota helped them get past troubles in their lives, in fact, it's helped me, too. It's just that it seems a bit far fetched for it to be called an e-sports documentary when, if anything, it's about Dota 2 and its players. It also seems as though they did not research much at all since they shrugged off the existence of Quake in its competitive glory.[/QUOTE]
if someone were to make a documentary on football players and their lives before the nfl, would it be considered a documentary about football or a sports documentary?
same thing applies here.
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and also that quote "competitive gaming wasn't even a thing 10 years ago" can easily apply to the dota scene, or the competitive gaming scene as a whole considering the international was the first really big tournament where the prize pool was more than just a measly 100k split between the top 8 teams.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;43988587]once you watch the documentary you'll realize why it's called free to play.
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if someone were to make a documentary on football players and their lives before the nfl, would it be considered a documentary about football or a sports documentary?
same thing applies here.
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and also that quote "competitive gaming wasn't even a thing 10 years ago" can easily apply to the dota scene, or the competitive gaming scene as a whole considering the international was the first really big tournament where the prize pool was more than just a measly 100k split between the top 8 teams.[/QUOTE]
I see your point.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;43988354]Why is this called "Free to Play"
"Free to Play" sounds like a documentary about the industry of free to play games, or at least the industry of [I]A[/I] free to play game
But it's not even related to that, it's about esports[/QUOTE]
I asked the same question at first but apparently you need to watch the movie to know why.
jesus ye whiny bastards
its a documentary about a valve game, and how teams make millions of dollars competitively playing a free to play title
this isn't "a comprehensive history of esports: the movie" so fuck off with your counter strike and quake
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;43988350]I have no idea how people can get into MOBAs.
How do you get past the inevitable condescending jerk that calls you a faggot for being new to the game?
I'd really have no motivation to play if that constantly happens.[/QUOTE]
the same way you ignore people who scream "NOOB FAGGOT KNIFER" or "NOOB FAGGOT AK-47 USER GET SKILL WOW" in FPS games
Oh look it's one big Dota 2 ad.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;43976879]competitive gaming wasn't a thing 10 years ago
just like its not a thing now
people who make this comparison sound like they've never engaged in physical activity in their lives[/QUOTE]
The LoL world championships had 32 million viewers, yep it's definitely not a thing guys believe me.
Tbh esports is probably a better form of competition than traditional sports because it is less dependant on natural physical talent. Just have a look at hasheem thabeet, the dude is an absolute scrub who was drafted into the NBA with a second pick just because he is tall.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;43988350]I have no idea how people can get into MOBAs.
How do you get past the inevitable condescending jerk that calls you a faggot for being new to the game?
I'd really have no motivation to play if that constantly happens.[/QUOTE]
In entry level play, just remember that anyone mouthing off to you is also new to the game or is a total scrub. The matchmaking tries to keep the tards out of higher level play, so unfortunately noobs have to play with them. Ignore them, their "advice" is probably shit anyway.
If you want some practice dealing with mouth-breathing no-lifers, turbospergs, and the finest community of shitlords the internet has to offer (they even won an award from Ten Ton Hammer!), join us in the World of Tanks thread in GD. Anytime someone treats you like shit, just remember the average battle is only 5-6 minutes (as opposed to LoL and DOTA's longer average times) so they will be off on their own soon enough. The hate you will get will put hair on your chest, swear to god.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;43973074]"Ten years ago, competitive gaming wasn't even a thing."
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck oooooooooooooffffffff[/QUOTE]
The fighting game community wants to speak to them.
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This was at evo 2004, you've probably seen this video before.
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