• Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales - multi-buy deals banned too
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[QUOTE=Zestence;35260149]It's not going to make people drink less, it's going to make them spend more money and possibly try homebrewing.[/QUOTE] It'll increase private and illegal imports as well.
who uses the term pre-loading?!
[QUOTE=NoDachi;35262797]A gram of good meph for £15 and you're sorted for the night.[/QUOTE] That's the thing, it's much cheaper to go in on a gram of some cheap gear and drink a little bit less.
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;35262614]People I know here in Ireland are terrified it's going to happen here, it's been suggested a few times. If they touch the price of a naggin, I'm going to lose all hope in my country's government.[/QUOTE] here here, I live off 6 for 6.50, this shit changes nothing but the extra few cent making it's way into the pockets of the government.
God damn it, multi-buy deals are used by people who aren't planning on drinking it all in one night as well, this will change nothing for binge drinkers and just annoy normal people.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;35262286]For all the posts consisting of "Stick it to them, won't affect nuffin, " etc.. Yes it will affect things. There is a serious issue with people drinking at home, specifically people living on benefits drinking at home. I've seen three people forced to work because they live on benefits, for a few weeks, and they are entirely disgusting people that spend their time drinking lager at home. I think if lower class people have an issue with buying alcohol then they should stop buying it, get some more money coming in, and then enjoy alcohol. Why is this difficult to grasp? People shouldn't be comfortable living on almost no money whilst drinking. So picture this: you have a minimum wage job or no job, living on benefits. You have barely any money after bills and food; so tell me where you're going to find money to buy a 4 pack of lager £5.56. It isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE] Angrychair: Bringing the GOP to the UK since 2009.
The thing is I think most 'problem drinkers' like the binge drinkers and the alcholics don't give a fuck what price it is, many with a real problem are past caring about money - watch the "payday loans" numbers go the fuck up! This will just hit the moderate responsible drinkers. Why must they interfere with a free market like this?
This is like the video games industry, punishing people who casually like to drink. I like to drink every now and then and the prices are already goddam expensive for vodka and the like. It's not acceptable.
This isn't going to change anything. People are just going to try Homebrewing or getting it from other sources.
Guys you do know this has nothing to do with trying to get people to stop buying alcohol and is simply so the money can make more out of taxes? I mean if I'm honest this is one of the few intelligent moves the Tories have made.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;35263358]Angrychair: Bringing the GOP to the UK since 2009.[/QUOTE] The BNP on 10 Downing St. in 2015! Think of the horror.
The Scottish Government has already, partially, introduced this. Multi buy deals are now illegal in Scotland, and a minimum price is all but certain. It's changed nothing. Can't get 2 crates of beer for £12? Buy 2 for £6 each. Seriously. One day after it was introduced, supermarkets cut the price of their deals so they continued to make money
[QUOTE=Zestence;35260149]It's not going to make people drink less, it's going to make them spend more money and possibly try homebrewing.[/QUOTE] I love homebrew beer, its the shit.
Bit of a shame really, if they're going to increase the prices to try and get people drinking less, then they need to increase it to a level where it becomes prohibitively expensive to acquire. If someone only has to spend an extra 76p to continue their addiction, then you can be damn sure they'll find an extra 76p to spend.
[QUOTE=Doozle;35261033]What kids drinking themselves to death? You sound like a Daily Mail columnist. Drinking culture hasn't really changed. People have always gone out and got bladdered. You see all these pictures in the paper of pissed people in the street. My mum insists that it's not different from when she was younger (she's in her 50s btw) she said you'd always get the same scenes and there would always be violent fights but there was no photographers there. People have been saying everything is going to the dogs then why aren't we there yet?[/QUOTE] Hospitalized children here in The Netherlands: 2007: 297 2008: 337 2009: 500 2010: 684 And it's not even all of them, just the ones treated at hospitals. It's a trend. They want to get drunk cheaply so they buy the cheap drinks to get drunk and then get a beer at the bar. They are not trying to make people drink less, they just want people to drink less alcohol by increasing the price of cheap drinks with high alcohol percentages.
[QUOTE=Megafan;35265277]The BNP on 10 Downing St. in 2015! Think of the horror.[/QUOTE] I'm insulted that you would relate me to the BNP. :(
instead of making alchohol more expensive the government should be asking itself [I]why[/I] people are going out every Friday and Saturday and engaging in binge drink. Could it be, oh, I don't know - that people hate their life and society? That there is nothing better to do and we rather harm ourselves and live in ecstasy through drugs to escape the reality of a 9 till 5 life? [editline]24th March 2012[/editline] philosophy 2DEEP4U conservatives
makes drink in clubs cheaper, they charge £5 a drink then wonder why everyone pre-drinks before they go out
Vasili clearly hasn't been out drinking much.
Stealth tax stealth tax weeoo weeoo weeoo
[QUOTE=Gareth;35266858]makes drink in clubs cheaper, they charge £5 a drink then wonder why everyone pre-drinks before they go out[/QUOTE] Night clubs have to realise that their primary market is the 18-to twenty some things who don't have enough cash to buy a bag of chips after a night out. What kind of costumers are they expecting in their joints? football players? people who are actually employed full time? haha
Free justification for price hikes that bring pure profit, in the name of "solving" a distasteful social problem? Sounds like something the GOP would do.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;35266870]Vasili clearly hasn't been out drinking much.[/QUOTE] "wey-hey lads look how smashed i am lol!" wake up with a killer hang over and some random facebook tagged photos of you with your genitals out yeah mate this is a great life im living with the LADS
[QUOTE=Vasili;35267461]"wey-hey lads look how smashed i am lol!" wake up with a killer hang over and some random facebook tagged photos of you with your genitals out yeah mate this is a great life im living with the LADS[/QUOTE] Booze Britain is not a primary source of research. Most people who enjoy a drink are not bald football jersey wearing unemployed men from the north of England who's Facebook profile page is a bastardized car.
They implemented something like this in parts of Auckland, NZ and most of Australia in an attempt to discourage young people from drinking. All that happens is young people now have less money after they leave the liquor store. If people want to get drunk, they'll get drunk.
[QUOTE=Mabus;35267551]Booze Britain is not a primary source of research. Most people who enjoy a drink are not bald football jersey wearing unemployed men from the north of England who's Facebook profile page is a bastardized car.[/QUOTE] I can honestly say there is something wrong with a society if its people are getting horrendously drunk every week in binge drink, so much of a problem that the government is trying to fix it. I like to drink, I go out every Friday for a few pints with friends, but I don't get wasted into an abyss. Same case goes for drugs, John Lennon has said the same shit as I and many others have. Doesn't take a genius to wonder why we're running to drugs to escape reality.
[QUOTE=sami-pso;35266275]Hospitalized children here in The Netherlands: 2007: 297 2008: 337 2009: 500 2010: 684 And it's not even all of them, just the ones treated at hospitals. It's a trend. They want to get drunk cheaply so they buy the cheap drinks to get drunk and then get a beer at the bar. They are not trying to make people drink less, they just want people to drink less alcohol by increasing the price of cheap drinks with high alcohol percentages.[/QUOTE] Population increases and immigration?
[QUOTE=Gareth;35266858]makes drink in clubs cheaper, they charge £5 a drink then wonder why everyone pre-drinks before they go out[/QUOTE] which is about $10 a pint which is a fucking nightmare
[QUOTE=Mabus;35267551]Booze Britain is not a primary source of research. Most people who enjoy a drink are not bald football jersey wearing unemployed men [b]from the north of England[/b] who's Facebook profile page is a bastardized car.[/QUOTE] The fuck are you on about, everyone knows it's the Southern bastards who can't handle their drink.
[QUOTE=Vasili;35266771]instead of making alchohol more expensive the government should be asking itself [I]why[/I] people are going out every Friday and Saturday and engaging in binge drink. Could it be, oh, I don't know - that people hate their life and society? That there is nothing better to do and we rather harm ourselves and live in ecstasy through drugs to escape the reality of a 9 till 5 life? [editline]24th March 2012[/editline] philosophy 2DEEP4U conservatives[/QUOTE] I deeply agree with the first part of your post...just not the second. I'm pretty conservative and I enjoy booze, weed and LSD. It's really not fair to assume EVERY conservative is aniti-euphoria.
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