Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales - multi-buy deals banned too
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[QUOTE=amdX2;35267733]Population increases and immigration?[/QUOTE]Unless the population of the Netherlands nearly tripled in the space of 3 years, that's hardly an adequate explanation.
[quote]It also plans to "end the notion that drinking is an unqualified right"[/QUOTE]
FUCK OFF
cool it'll be just like when they put mega tax on cigs and everybody stopped smoking
Of course, a truly addicted alcoholic will just make him/her self and their children go without proper nutrition to buy the alcohol that they're addicted to. Got to be realistic - it's rare for someone to say "know what, I'm an alcoholic!" and then take time off of a busy working schedule (trying to make ends meet) to go to AA for help.
And of course, there are the significant number of relatively well-off people who have kids that will still be able to afford drink, anyway. It's more of a "if you're poor, you can't drink" as opposed to any proper solution to binge drinking.
The proper solution is probably encouraging moderate alcohol usage and parents who give their children (10+ or something) a very small glass of wine or something with dinner every now and again, so that alcohol is not a forbidden fruit that kids drink to show how adult they are.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;35262797]A gram of good meph for £15 and you're sorted for the night.[/QUOTE]
real 4-mmc s extremely rare worldwide,you're probably buying some other substituted cathinone unless you got some left over from the ban...
the problem is supermarkets and some off licenses not being responsible retailers. they don't have to stock things like white lightening, they choose to.
[QUOTE=joe588;35289064]real 4-mmc s extremely rare worldwide,you're probably buying some other substituted cathinone unless you got some left over from the ban...[/QUOTE]
extremely rare? fuck i got given 50gs of the shit when it became illegal and sold it between a bunch of mates for £10/g :(
[QUOTE=Gareth;35289232]extremely rare? fuck i got given 50gs of the shit when it became illegal and sold it between a bunch of mates for £10/g :([/QUOTE]
gutted mate, few countries still sell the real stuff though pretty ship quality and it's about 30/g
[editline]25th March 2012[/editline]
ssince it got banned in China anyway...
although the inventor of the crystal drone Eric claims to be selling it again. and ketamine lol.
he's gonna get executed if he is.
The way I see it, this just makes them profit even more off of people's alcoholism. I think they damn well know that this isn't going to discourage people from drinking.
They needed a nifty way of making more money, and they chose to raise the price on something where if people say no to it, they may come off as a drunk.
This is completely stupid. Imagine if the government tried to make people more productive by making video games cost a minimum of $100 on release.
'end the notion that drinking is an unqualified right'
whats up with government thinking they can decide what peoples rights are?? especially when it concerns putting stuff into your own body
Yeah, what the fuck? I have a right to put whatever I choose in my body whether informed or not I'll reap the rewards or suffer the consequences whether the government calls me a bad boy or not.
because only poor people binge drink right
[editline]26th March 2012[/editline]
usual Tory snobbery
"Let's make some more money off alcohol sales."
"Okay, but how?"
"I don't know, make some shit up about how less people will binge drink."
"Sir, you're a genius."
[editline]26th March 2012[/editline]
In all seriousness the only stuff I've seen that you could buy for less than 40p was so cheap and nasty that if you're actually resorting to drinking it you've already hit rock bottom and you're still falling.
Fuck now I'll only be able to buy one litre of vodka before a night out oh no what will I do.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;35303976]Fuck now I'll only be able to buy one litre of vodka before a night out oh no what will I do.[/QUOTE]
Whilst the poorer alcoholics with genuine addiction issues will just resort to giving themselves and their children less food to make up the higher costs. That is massively detrimental to the parents.
This does nothing to stop middle/upperclass binge drinking, (it exists) or people who have a part-time job that they use to fund nights out who can all afford to pay more and still get shitfaced.
You need to change the attitude to alcohol, not the price. There's a reason that France, Italy and Germany have less drinking issues, and that's a different attitude to alcohol, where it's not held back as a drink for adults, it's given in moderation and not stigmatised as much.
You also need to provide for proper care for alcoholics - trying to help them recover (it's not a 1,2,3... fixed!, it's an intensive treatment for some people) as opposed to just making booze more expensive.
I don't even drink very much, if at all, (I'll drink at a wedding or the like, but only one small glass) and am opposed to the change, as it's not the correct way to fix a problem, much like upping the price of cigarettes doesn't stop smokers.
As a university student i find this terrifying
Fuck sake this isn't going to solve anything. Plus the multibuy ban worries me as a student.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;35262286]For all the posts consisting of "Stick it to them, won't affect nuffin, " etc..
Yes it will affect things. There is a serious issue with people drinking at home, specifically people living on benefits drinking at home. I've seen three people forced to work because they live on benefits, for a few weeks, and they are entirely disgusting people that spend their time drinking lager at home.
I think if lower class people have an issue with buying alcohol then they should stop buying it, get some more money coming in, and then enjoy alcohol.
Why is this difficult to grasp? People shouldn't be comfortable living on almost no money whilst drinking.
So picture this: you have a minimum wage job or no job, living on benefits. You have barely any money after bills and food; so tell me where you're going to find money to buy a 4 pack of lager £5.56.
It isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE]
hey, hey
you're wrong
[QUOTE=Savyetski79;35280434]
I'm pretty conservative and I enjoy booze, weed and LSD. It's really not fair to assume EVERY conservative is aniti-euphoria.[/QUOTE]
Not actual conservative people, I was more referring to the party. Should of said Tories.
As an employee of Bargain Booze, i'm not worried at all.
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It's like they took the allegation that alcohol is more harmful than some drugs and yet it's legal unlike drugs backwards and decided to slowly take it out of the cycle along with drugs
[QUOTE=Dav0r;35315978]As an employee of Bargain Booze, i'm not worried at all.[/QUOTE]
Well apart from alcoholism, games are my only real hobbies but now all the GAME's are shutting too.
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