School Adds Ice Cream After Nutritional Lunches Don't Sell
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[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;47278783]Never seen bread like that before, but that is the exact same "spaghetti" they served at my school.[/QUOTE]
That sucks. Over here we get more or less the same what we get at home. I did eat much healthier school than at home :v:
Typical Swedish school canteen with a bunch of salad.
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The principle of the high school I went to made legit food every day. Good thing there were only 28 students or so.
Here in Australia, our canteen is full of just about everything. We got Pizza, Burgers, Yiros all kinds of neat stuff. Too bad most of it costs an arm and a leg.
[QUOTE=woolio1;47278766]I went to a tiny private high school, and our lunch lady was able to put together healthy, delicious lunches for $3 a person, sold 'em for $4. It's my understanding that that's the average cost of a school lunch to produce, so you have to wonder why the public system doesn't do similarly.[/QUOTE]
Greed. Call me jaded and cynical, but in a world where money makes things happen, it is often greed that drives men to cut corners whether or not it is right to make such trimmings. Usually, it is either a fear of scarcity, where they hoard for a winter that may or may not come, or confusing the things they want for things they need.
Not to mention a gross mismanagement of the national budget being another factor. I mean, unless America is secretly trying to keep some unspeakable leviathan from waking up, there is no need for such an opulent allocation of national funds to the military budget. So much money that could be used in more worthwhile endeavours like making sure kids grow up healthy and happy with plenty of opportunities, as is the birthright of every child in the universe. But of course they're stuck mopping up the mess they made in the Middle East, and they're afraid that they'll need every penny they can to ensure they've got everything they need to clean up Aisle 5, when they could probably manage the job fine with maybe half the budget, two-thirds tops.
Also [URL="http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=409691"]N-12_Aden[/URL], I believe that weird bread was an attempt at creating garlic bread, which is a pretty good side for many a pasta dish. However traditional garlic bread is usually made using baguettes, whereas this seems to be garlic butter spread onto a piece of white and popped under the grill. Seems like it could be part of a student diet (if their home has a grill-based appliance), though something tells me that piece isn't exactly quality, even by student standards.
Our military budget's huge because contractors have hyperinflated it. The military needs bombs, tanks, ammunition, that sort of thing. The contractors producing it set the prices, though, and since this stuff's usually done with decade or half-century contracts, there's not a lot of competition. They can basically price it wherever they want and still get sales.
Biggest reason they price it so high is R&D. Military contractors spend most of their income on product development, both for the military and private sectors.
That said, spending just under 80% of our yearly budget on military purchasing is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=woolio1;47279042]Our military budget's huge because contractors have hyperinflated it. The military needs bombs, tanks, ammunition, that sort of thing. The contractors producing it set the prices, though, and since this stuff's usually done with decade or half-century contracts, there's not a lot of competition. They can basically price it wherever they want and still get sales.
Biggest reason they price it so high is R&D. Military contractors spend most of their income on product development, both for the military and private sectors.[/QUOTE]
Wait, so it's the contractors that inflate the budget? Man, I know R&D is expensive, and I respect the nature of the scientific experiment where failure and designing many variants are part of the industry, but how much money do the scientists and the execs really need for it to take up such a big chunk of America's national budget?
[QUOTE=bitches;47277658]great except how overpriced as fuck it is[/QUOTE]
Canada*
Our dollar isn't great and our food costs way more (we can't grow much in the winter and import most things across borders year round) than it does in the USA. A McDonalds meal here is 6+ dollars as well as a pint of beer (mostly in tax on liquor, but we get heavily taxed in general, right now 5% GST and if the province you live in is broke you also have to pay a PST, I think British Columbia is like 12% total on almost everything you buy using a harmonized tax HST combining both, I live in Alberta where we're about to be broke due to oil crash and corrupt gov't but currently we only pay the 5% GST).. that is actually really good for 5 bucks. Canadians should be saying 5 CAD online because people confuse it with the American dollar when we just say "bucks"
5.00 CAD is 3.96 USD right now and our dollar is still losing value. When oil was booming we were near 1:1, not anymore.
We'll see how long our good school lunches last in Alberta once our education fund gets destroyed again by the end of the year. Shitty frozen fucking oil land.
[QUOTE=ironman17;47278993]Greed. Call me jaded and cynical, but in a world where money makes things happen, it is often greed that drives men to cut corners whether or not it is right to make such trimmings. Usually, it is either a fear of scarcity, where they hoard for a winter that may or may not come, or confusing the things they want for things they need.
Not to mention a gross mismanagement of the national budget being another factor. I mean, unless America is secretly trying to keep some unspeakable leviathan from waking up, there is no need for such an opulent allocation of national funds to the military budget. So much money that could be used in more worthwhile endeavours like making sure kids grow up healthy and happy with plenty of opportunities, as is the birthright of every child in the universe. But of course they're stuck mopping up the mess they made in the Middle East, and they're afraid that they'll need every penny they can to ensure they've got everything they need to clean up Aisle 5, when they could probably manage the job fine with maybe half the budget, two-thirds tops.
Also [URL="http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=409691"]N-12_Aden[/URL], I believe that weird bread was an attempt at creating garlic bread, which is a pretty good side for many a pasta dish. However traditional garlic bread is usually made using baguettes, whereas this seems to be garlic butter spread onto a piece of white and popped under the grill. Seems like it could be part of a student diet (if their home has a grill-based appliance), though something tells me that piece isn't exactly quality, even by student standards.[/QUOTE]
Oh I mean I have seen that, and I do it sometimes, but never seen it at a school and never that shitty.
[QUOTE=leontodd;47277210]Same shit happened in my school. The lunches suck, are too small and are expensive, so everyone goes to the chicken shop down the road instead where 3 wings, chips and a drink is about £1.50 (~$2.20).[/QUOTE]
Happened to my school too, so they banned leaving during lunch hours.
[QUOTE=ironman17;47279084]Wait, so it's the contractors that inflate the budget? Man, I know R&D is expensive, and I respect the nature of the scientific experiment where failure and designing many variants are part of the industry, but how much money do the scientists and the execs really need for it to take up such a big chunk of America's national budget?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much.
Funny thing, the same thing happens on a smaller scale at my college. There's a contractor that handles all the campus dining facilities, and food from the campus franchises is $1-2 more expensive on average than it is five minutes down the road.
If you don't have competition, you can jack up the prices. That's just how that system operates.
In my high school, they replaced fries with bland, soggy sweet potato "fries". I was eating a few and then noticed a large green slimy blob on one of them. Not a second later I threw the fries off the side of the table. I also remember they had some sort of enchilada bake (which was actually fairly good), but one day it had these hard black mini-cubes with hairs sticking out of them. Intermediate school (sucked a massive cock since the whole staff abused power and gave you detention for [I]anything[/I]) was much worse. The "burgers" they served were literally deformed patties that poured like a waterfall when you tried to eat the burger. It was also green on the inside. Elementary school was a million times better since they had meals that were BIGGER than what we had in high school, and was made of actual quality food instead of this mass processed garbage. They also had a load of junk food, but everyone knew that they shouldn't eat too much. Now it's only getting worse and michelle is optimistic that everyone will "catch on" these """"lunches"""". Not a fucking chance in hell.
[QUOTE=meppers;47278543]Everyone here is acting like bringing homemade lunches to school is impossible[/QUOTE]
That's what I started doing once I got to high school. Rarely did I eat cafeteria food so I lived on a steady diet of ham sandwiches.
don't understand anything about this thread and school lunches
in Australia both primary and high school we just had a place called the tuckshop, where you'd buy shit
The state government wanted more places to be healthy so they encouraged private schools but enforced state schools to enact healthier food options
Food was cheap and good but I always brought homemade Vegemite sandwiches to school and only had tuckshop every Friday on a fortnight
Never understood the point in buying school lunches everyday, they're mostly shit, fresh sandwiches are the way to go
I'm not surprised. You can lead a kid to 'healthy' food, but you sure as shit can't make 'em eat it. If they don't want to eat it they'll just bring food in....smuggled if need be....that isn't necessarily up to par but tastes good. That's just how kids are.
How about we give them something tasty and filling instead of what amounts to prison gruel?
[QUOTE=leontodd;47277210]Same shit happened in my school. The lunches suck, are too small and are expensive, so everyone goes to the chicken shop down the road instead where 3 wings, chips and a drink is about £1.50 (~$2.20).[/QUOTE]
If you'da tried that in my high school they'da slapped you in the face with 3 days OSS for skipping. Damned nazis wouldn't even let you go to study hall instead of lunch, you [i]had[/i] to go to the cafeteria and if need be sit there bored stupid for half an hour.
[QUOTE=Agent Fedora;47278032]can confirm this is what we get at my school, except instead of an actual milk carton you get a pouch that you have to squeeze a straw into[/QUOTE]
I remember this back in elementary school. If you punctured the pouch too hard (which wasn't uncommon since we were really hyper kids ) the straw would go through and sometimes you'd end up with a tray full of chocolate milk :suicide:
Oh lord. My last year of HS, they switched to a "healthy" lunch menu. Now, stuff like "wheat macaroni" doesn't sound too bad, but it ended up looking pre-digested with almost liquid noodles.
They decided to make the change because of the obesity thing. Kids still got fat. Why? Because our school allowed children to pay extra for double servings. They didn't understand that was the cause, so they removed all vending machines and replaced them with those garbage "vitamin water" ones.
School lunches. Schools don't know dick about nutrition, just about everything at my school when I went looked like it came out of a garbage disposal.
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The struggle is real....[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, I laughed so fucking hard at how pathetic this is. Like I don't think you could get any more stupid than a plastic bag of milk you have to jab with a straw.
you know, you don't have to eat a lunch, two slightly bigger meals a day works fine. This was my strategy throughout grade school, worked great, could do hw during lunches and ended up with lots of free time.
unless you have some specific medical condition it's worth a try as a time saving and school lunch slop avoidance method. If your used to 3 it will probably take some time adjusting though.
They should just let kids buy whatever they want. Forcing them to eat healthy (and using bottom of the barrel food) just results in them throwing it away and then complaining they're hungry. Kids don't want healthy, and trying to force it on them was a failure. Just let them have their pizza, fries, and soda because at least they'll be full and happy.
The school lunches in Finland are pretty terrible, or well at least in my town. (Ignore Flagdog.)
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Not an actual picture of food from our school, but this is what it usually looked like. It wasn't uncommon for potatoes to be black from inside and even if they weren't, they still tasted like shit. Soups were usually thin and contained more salt than necessary, sauces sometimes contained weird strings of fat and the meat, if not minced, was usually rubbery and burnt. By the time I was 14 I ate only a few times at school.
If whoever who designed those meals was feeling cruel enough, they'd design something more abominable usually disguised as something good. At one point we had meatballs, everyone was stoked because we just had a week full of shit on the list. That is, until everyone realized that the meatballs were filled with jam. JAM. Everyone was pissed. Most took like eight meatballs and the teachers didn't usually let students go until they had eaten more than half of their meal. Otherwise they just berated the students for being wasteful and told them about starving children in Africa. At one point they also served some sort of taco casserole, which was just godawful potato casserole with some taco spices sprinkled on it.
As a person living in a country where they feed their prisoners better than their students, the food shown in the first two pages of the thread looks far more appetizing than whatever the hell I was fed most of the time. Aside from that turd on the stick in OP's post.
Some of it doesn't look very filling at all, though.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47278773]Is that normal in the US? Swedish prison food looks way better than that.[/QUOTE]
Our School food is like Prison food, and our prison food may or may not come in containers marked "not fit for human consumption".
[QUOTE=ProtoMob;47280134]The school lunches in Finland are pretty terrible, or well at least in my town. (Ignore Flagdog.)
Not an actual picture of food from our school, but this is what it usually looked like. It wasn't uncommon for potatoes to be black from inside and even if they weren't, they still tasted like shit. Soups were usually thin and contained more salt than necessary, sauces sometimes contained weird strings of fat and the meat, if not minced, was usually rubbery and burnt. By the time I was 14 I ate only a few times at school.
If whoever who designed those meals was feeling cruel enough, they'd design something more abominable usually disguised as something good. At one point we had meatballs, everyone was stoked because we just had a week full of shit on the list. That is, until everyone realized that the meatballs were filled with jam. JAM. Everyone was pissed. Most took like eight meatballs and the teachers didn't usually let students go until they had eaten more than half of their meal. Otherwise they just berated the students for being wasteful and told them about starving children in Africa. At one point they also served some sort of taco casserole, which was just godawful potato casserole with some taco spices sprinkled on it.
As a person living in a country where they feed their prisoners better than their students, the food shown in the first two pages of the thread looks far more appetizing than whatever the hell I was fed most of the time. Aside from that turd on the stick in OP's post.
Some of it doesn't look very filling at all, though.[/QUOTE]The food at my schools weren't nearly as bad as that, but in general Finnish schools seem to really cheap out on the catering company they hire.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;47280155]The food at my schools weren't nearly as bad as that, but in general Finnish schools seem to really cheap out on the catering company they hire.[/QUOTE]
The vocational school I'm in fortunately puts more effort into providing some nutritious and tasty meals, though we still get some weird meals like "roasted deer with cheese" or "kebab casserole." We don't eat at the cafeteria if the food sounds even slightly suspicious and not worth waiting for like 10 minutes in the line.
Sometimes they also mistype the names of foods (curry becomes "carry") and on one occasion we just had "soup" for lunch. It was pea soup, but the list just said it was just "soup."
I'm sorry, why is this a good thing? Excuse my Australianess, but schools providing lunches like this is a really weird and alien idea. You bring your own and sometimes get food at the canteen (Usually pretty good). So why would putting ice cream back into the menu in a primary school in a country with serious obesity problems be a good thing? Why are packed lunches so bad?
This is why all Americans are dumb and fat.
[editline]8th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=ironman17;47278546]I was going to be surprised at this, but considering the Nordic lands and their qualities, it makes sense. Also, doesn't Finland have access to large reserves of oil, or am I thinking of Sweden or Norway? I recall reading somewhere that one of the Scandinavian countries had access to substantial oil reserves and used them to fund free college education or something.[/QUOTE]
Norway. All Nordic countries have healthy lunches and change would probably cause heated debate.
So when you throw a pile of garbage together for lunch, kids stop buying it
Who would of fucking guessed?
Or you could edit the system so the kids are not in school for the entire day, eliminating the need for them in the first place, they can sell snacks instead. Or have a central kitchen that can actually cook for shit and distribute through the city
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47280097]They should just let kids buy whatever they want. Forcing them to eat healthy (and using bottom of the barrel food) just results in them throwing it away and then complaining they're hungry. Kids don't want healthy, and trying to force it on them was a failure. Just let them have their pizza, fries, and soda because at least they'll be full and happy.[/QUOTE]
The fact is, healthy food is tasty. The problem is that you grow up in a culture where kids are told implicitly that it's normal for them not to like greens, vegetables and so on. But it's not. It's absolutely arbitrary and you just end up with picky eaters that reel in disgust when they see a bellpepper or some spinach not because they actually tried eating them, but because since they were born everyone around them told them that since you're a kid, you're not going to like them. I know it sounds like an unfair generalization, but in my experience american kids are really really picky when it comes to eating and are often uneducated on how to prepare a decent meal. And this carries on in adulthood.
[QUOTE=woolio1;47279198]Pretty much.
Funny thing, the same thing happens on a smaller scale at my college. There's a contractor that handles all the campus dining facilities, and food from the campus franchises is $1-2 more expensive on average than it is five minutes down the road.
If you don't have competition, you can jack up the prices. That's just how that system operates.[/QUOTE]
Well, if there's a place just down the road from your college which sells things cheaper on average than anything in the campus cafeterias, then the contractors DO in fact have competition. They just don't recognize it.
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