[QUOTE=sgman91;49737642]Do you mean like when Democrats in the senate wouldn't even give Bush's appeal's court nominees a hearing during his first term when they had the majority in congress? Or when they lost control of congress then continued to filibuster their nomination votes? (the first ever appeal's court nominees to be filibustered in the history of the country)
Also, it doesn't look like Bush had any supreme court nominations during elections years and Reagan's was Kennedy, the most moderate judge in the court. Hell, he's sided more with the liberal judges than the conservative judges as a swing vote ([URL]http://supremecourtreview.com/default/justice/index/id/34[/URL]). If Obama nominates a very moderate judge and the republicans block it, then I'll eat my words, but based on recent history liberals have nominated extremely consistent liberal judges.[/QUOTE]
Lower court judges are one thing, both sides do block those too much, but during Bush's years he had not one but two judge appointments during a congress that pretty much mirrors what we have today in terms of makeup, and he got them passed in a matter of weeks, not 12-13 months
[QUOTE=Sableye;49737688]Lower court judges are one thing, both sides do block those too much, but during Bush's years he had not one but two judge appointments during a congress that pretty much mirrors what we have today in terms of makeup, and he got them passed in a matter of weeks, not 12-13 months[/QUOTE]
The whole argument is that it's an election year where the people are about to decide what path they want to set the country on, not that he shouldn't do it because the congress is controlled by republicans.
Like I said, if Obama nominates someone comparable to Kennedy, a total moderate who votes almost equally on both sides, and the republicans still block it, then I'll eat my words. There's just no reason to think that that has any chance of happening.
[QUOTE=bitches;49737655]holy shit how old are you? are videogames really more important to you than civil rights?[/QUOTE]
art is free speech.
free speech is a civil right
[QUOTE=bitches;49737655]holy shit how old are you? are videogames really more important to you than civil rights?[/QUOTE]
No, but free speech is more important to me than laws about where I can or can't stick my dick.
[editline]14th February 2016[/editline]
And have you seen Germany's censorship laws?
[QUOTE=Wii60;49737712]art is free speech.
free speech is a civil right[/QUOTE]
don't they fall under freedom of expression?
[QUOTE=Wii60;49737712]art is free speech.
free speech is a civil right[/QUOTE]
Is the right to make a video game really more important than, say, the presumption of innocence?
Sure, it's a civil right... but, there are rights that are a lot more important to freedom/autonomy than the pursuit of art in any form which sits towards the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
[QUOTE=M.C.;49737058]I have mixed feelings about him, on one hand he has strong conservative stances on abortion and anti gay marriage, but on the other hand he did defend video games from California's attempt to treat them like alcohol and cigarettes, saying that they qualify for the First Amendment.[/QUOTE]
"well on one hand he discriminates people but on the other he defended videogames"
tough choice
I know when someone bites it that nobody likes, it's generally considered poor taste to acknowledge it with celebration...
... but it's not like it was a tragic death if he went naturally. We should all be so lucky.
I originally was going to type something like, "at the end of the day, I disagreed with him, but I'm sure he was an otherwise alright guy."
But I had to stop myself. Because to say he's otherwise not hurt anyone, or tried to, is flat out wrong.
This guy had the immense power, and duty, to uphold the constitution, and the rights of the American people. Regardless of his personal or religious proclivities, he had an obligation to do his job on behalf of every American.
Effectively, critical thinking and intellectual honesty define his station, and time and time again he shat on that to blindly promote his own feelings. He made decisions that could tip the scale and easily destroy lives and suspend freedoms.
His reasoning given for voting against the gay marriage ruling demonstrates this perfectly.
He was a disgrace to his peers, to the American people and to his country in general, and I would be lying my face off if I said his expiration wasn't ultimately a net-positive for us all.
Perhaps to his family and progeny, I will offer condolences on a personal level. But that is the extent of the good I'll say for the man. And really, the extent of what I'll say, period. Because now, hopefully we can keep moving forward.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49737377]I wouldn't give him too much credit for that though, it was a 7-2 decision so whatever he said didn't really matter[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming you've read the court's opinion in full?
Scalia wrote the majority opinion. In other words he likely persuaded the court to join him.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49737712]art is free speech.[/QUOTE]
like ok cool nobody implied it wasn't
they're saying it doesn't equate to discrimination based on sexual orientation or literal life or death situations
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;49738082]don't they fall under freedom of expression?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Freedom of speech is the right to communicate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sgman91;49737693]The whole argument is that it's an election year where the people are about to decide what path they want to set the country on, not that he shouldn't do it because the congress is controlled by republicans.
Like I said, if Obama nominates someone comparable to Kennedy, a total moderate who votes almost equally on both sides, and the republicans still block it, then I'll eat my words. There's just no reason to think that that has any chance of happening.[/QUOTE]
There is reason to believe that will happen though, the republicans now face the prospect of all their upcoming cases deadlocking on 4-4 and going back to the lower court which 9 out of 12 are blue thanks to Obama's nominations, if they bring in a moderate soon, they can get an even court and there are democrat moderate judges who wouldn't overturn their precious gun laws, its an insane risk especially since the republicans have a long shot at the WH at this point, and even then they would need a moderate to get the needed 60 votes
[QUOTE=Sableye;49737448]I'm saying that 6 other justices came to the same conclusion, it wasn't like his view swayed the court.[/QUOTE]
He DID, however, sway the court in deciding that people had a right to protect themselves from threats in Heller v District of Columbia following the ruling of Gonzalez v Castle Rock, which ended with the court saying the police have no duty to protect you from threats.
I think the Republicans are caught in their own trap. They can't work with the President, they've been specifically NOT working with him since he first became President. They've painted him as this terrible leader, and that's how their voter base sees him.
Imagine them now trying to play along with the President and come up with a nominee that both sides can live with! That's something I'd have to see to believe. Their voter base would revolt, Trump would own them.
So they are stuck blocking any nomination. Meanwhile all they can do is hope that A)they don't lose the Presidential election and B)they don't lose the Senate. If either of those things happen, or both, that's game over.
If only they had tried to work with him once in a while over the years. If only the message they sent their voter base was more like "He's not what we want in a President, but at least we can work with him on some things", if they had done that the Republican leadership would have a lot more leverage right now and a lot more options.
Trump is a Republican candidate the same way Sanders is a Democrat candidate. They don't really follow the party ideals, they're just using the branding for more exposure. Trump's situation likely won't change regardless of the outcome of this.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;49740289]
If only they had tried to work with him once in a while over the years.[/QUOTE]
That's hilarious
[QUOTE=The golden;49739160]The human rights Scalia wanted to take away are kinda more than just sex...
And also saying that video games are more important than peoples human rights...
Your profile says you are 14 and if that's true it's really, really showing.[/QUOTE]
And it didn't strike you as even a little bit odd that this account's user was born on September 11, 2001? :v:
Is that a real post
[QUOTE=KOManiacJim;49741314]I suspect there is foul play. I have a theory that the left had planned the assassination because of heart attack gun.
[video=youtube;tzIw44w00ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIw44w00ow[/video]
If the left decided to assassinate people then I will say **** that noise. If anyone like Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton or anyone that is in the vein of Obama gets elected, Then I am going to go to military school and start the people's Crusade against The Enemy that is closer than you or I know.[/QUOTE]
New favourite post. You sound like a mass shooter in the making.
Tell me, who is ~The Enemy~?
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49736366]To be honest, I think Scalia served as an important balance to the supreme court. He was one of four conservative justices, balanced out by four liberal justices, and Justice Kennedy is the swing vote. I think this setup is the best overall, and more conservative or liberal justices would be a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
I'm a left leaning gay and I have to honestly agree with this.
Anyone who says that homosexuals shouldn't have the same rights as straights is a bigot (and probably more than that) but unfortunately for many this is a democracy and I prefer that there's a proper representation of people in the government over social progress. Social progress is a thing that you can't rush with a minority support.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49735001]I'm not going to shed any tears, but he reportedly died in his sleep, which is better than some ways to go. He leaves a fairly large family behind, though, and that's always sad.[/QUOTE]
That's the only way someone can return to the nightmare realm where they're from, that or haunted mirrors
[QUOTE=KOManiacJim;49741314]I suspect there is foul play. I have a theory that the left had planned the assassination because of heart attack gun.
[video=youtube;tzIw44w00ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIw44w00ow[/video]
If the left decided to assassinate people then I will say **** that noise. If anyone like Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton or anyone that is in the vein of Obama gets elected, Then I am going to go to military school and start the people's Crusade against The Enemy that is closer than you or I know.[/QUOTE]
between this and the video game post i think this thread has reached maximum facepunch in only three pages
[QUOTE=KOManiacJim;49741314]I suspect there is foul play. I have a theory that the left had planned the assassination because of heart attack gun.
[video=youtube;tzIw44w00ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIw44w00ow[/video]
If the left decided to assassinate people then I will say **** that noise. If anyone like Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton or anyone that is in the vein of Obama gets elected, Then I am going to go to military school and start the people's Crusade against The Enemy that is closer than you or I know.[/QUOTE]
Damn The Left and their magic heart attack rays
Enjoy military school
[QUOTE=Sableye;49737377]I wouldn't give him too much credit for that though, it was a 7-2 decision so whatever he said didn't really matter[/QUOTE]
Not that I care about the original topic but by this reasoning that means that nothing the other 6 said really mattered.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49736366]To be honest, I think Scalia served as an important balance to the supreme court. He was one of four conservative justices, balanced out by four liberal justices, and Justice Kennedy is the swing vote. I think this setup is the best overall, and more conservative or liberal justices would be a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
When we studied politics, my politics tutor would say half jokingly that Kennedy was the most powerful man in the united states.
This kind of set up puts an awful lot of power and pressure in one individuals hands and to me that feels dangerous.
[editline]15th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;49742840]Not that I care about the original topic but by this reasoning that means that nothing the other 6 said really mattered.[/QUOTE]
Nah, the point is Scalia wasn't exactly solely instrumentally important to that decision, he was just one of the 7 justices that weren't fucking morons.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49742815]all we need is a gasmask or armchair general and the thread will redirect you to the front page[/QUOTE]
With Scalia gone the liberals will come for our guns and take them away. So much for that demoralizing guerrilla war that us true patriots would totally wage and totally win. Getting my gas mask now that there is nothing stopping them from Wacoing me!
(Will it redirect now?)
[QUOTE=KOManiacJim;49741314]I suspect there is foul play. I have a theory that the left had planned the assassination because of heart attack gun.
[video=youtube;tzIw44w00ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIw44w00ow[/video]
If the left decided to assassinate people then I will say **** that noise. If anyone like Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton or anyone that is in the vein of Obama gets elected, Then I am going to go to military school and start the people's Crusade against The Enemy that is closer than you or I know.[/QUOTE]
well that said, he was 79 years old, had a minor illness, and went quail hunting and he wasn't exactly in the best of shape as an old man so its in the realm of possibility that he just died.
one of my gramma's neighbors for example got up one morning, had breakfest and then went back to bed and just passed away, it happens
I'm curious to see whether the Republicans will back an Obama nominee or just leave it vacant.
[QUOTE=KOManiacJim;49741314]I suspect there is foul play. I have a theory that the left had planned the assassination because of heart attack gun.
[video=youtube;tzIw44w00ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIw44w00ow[/video]
If the left decided to assassinate people then I will say **** that noise. If anyone like Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton or anyone that is in the vein of Obama gets elected, Then I am going to go to military school and start the people's Crusade against The Enemy that is closer than you or I know.[/QUOTE]
this post has got to be a joke
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;49743039]this post has got to be a joke[/QUOTE]
its not
his posts are too weird/autistic to not be serious
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[QUOTE=Wii60;49737712]art is free speech.
free speech is a civil right[/QUOTE]
think you slightly overestimate the importance of videogames
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