• Obama called 'Antichrist' by heckler during his fundraiser, video included
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[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32516326]Well everyone else was talking about how you constantly use satire and dismiss political opinions with it so whatevs[/QUOTE] there's nothing wrong with using satire and you're simplifying it to the point where you're talking out of your ass. I've debated political issues on here hundreds of times. I don't simply just "dismiss political opinions with satire." [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516380]If he was JDK's definition of a republican, he would have. Never said he was necessarily a [i]good[/i] politician. Just that he evidently isn't a Republican, according to JDK, since he didn't tear up the bill on the State House steps then shoot the scraps of paper with an Uzi and condemn the efforts to allow the homosexual agenda to corrupt our children[/QUOTE] trying way too hard
[QUOTE=JDK721;32516408]there's nothing wrong with using satire and you're simplifying it to the point where you're talking out of your ass. I've debated political issues on here hundreds of times. I don't simply just "dismiss political opinions with satire." [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] trying way too hard[/QUOTE] it's called satire. it's totally okay to use. And you're so not dismissing my point that not every Republican in teh race conforms to your narrow stereotype right now, correct?
[QUOTE=JDK721;32516408]and you're simplifying it to the point where you're talking out of your ass.[/QUOTE] irony.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516380]If he was JDK's definition of a republican, he would have. Never said he was necessarily a [i]good[/i] politician. Just that he evidently isn't a Republican, according to JDK, since he didn't tear up the bill on the State House steps then shoot the scraps of paper with an Uzi and condemn the efforts to allow the homosexual agenda to corrupt our children. (hint: that was "satire.")[/QUOTE] wow forgive him for thinking a republican would be against something the republican party platform is against.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516477]And you're so not dismissing my point that not every Republican in teh race conforms to your narrow stereotype right now, correct?[/QUOTE] you obviously don't know what stereotype means, so I suggest you look it up or stop using it EVERY Republican candidate running for the 2012 election is a bigot and Romney has some terrible views, so I don't know why you keep mentioning him
he gives Christians a bad name
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32507256]He responded quite well I must say. Also is it just me or is Obama's hair seriously going gray[/QUOTE] Having quite possibly the most stressful job [I]on the planet[/I] can do that to a guy.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516011]Continue on your crusade to paint everyone you disagree with as angry, bigoted gun-toted loons. I'm sure all of Facepunch appreciates the enlightenment you bring them.[/QUOTE] You're ignoring his points and behaving like a child.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32516689]You're ignoring his points and behaving like a child.[/QUOTE] He gives responses like "trying way too hard" and "its satire" and yet I'm the one behaving like a child. Love it. As for "ignoring points:" I made my point two pages back, and this whole thing spiraled into dozens of different arguments that had no relevance to the topic at hand, presumably as a way to work around my point. He made the point that all republicans are evil, I showed him a republican who wasn't evil, and he has yet to respond.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516140]Even Mitt Romney, who passed state-level health-care reform into law years before Obama was even elected President? Whose state became the first in the nation to legalize same-sex marriage under his governorship? Yeah, what a total loon that guy is.[/QUOTE] He said corporations are people so yeah, total loon.
I love how he's quietly laughing to himself.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516720]He gives responses like "trying way too hard" and "its satire" and yet I'm the one behaving like a child. Love it. As for "ignoring points:" I made my point two pages back, and this whole thing spiraled into dozens of different arguments that had no relevance to the topic at hand, presumably as a way to work around my point. He made the point that all republicans are evil, I showed him a republican who wasn't evil, and he has yet to respond.[/QUOTE] oh wow, you really do have an ego. People are arguing with you over what they are because they're valid reasons to argue with you.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516720]He gives responses like "trying way too hard" and "its satire" and yet I'm the one behaving like a child. Love it. As for "ignoring points:" I made my point two pages back, and this whole thing spiraled into dozens of different arguments that had no relevance to the topic at hand, presumably as a way to work around my point. He made the point that all republicans are evil, I showed him a republican who wasn't evil, and he has yet to respond.[/QUOTE] please link me the post where he specifically said all republicans are evil. and like i said before, you don't think romney's bad because he didn't veto a gay marriage bill? that's like saying palin is sane because she believes in women's rights or something.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;32516730]He said corporations are people so yeah, total loon.[/QUOTE] let's look at some of his other brilliant views: -opposes legalizing medical cannabis -supported DADT -opposes same-sex marriage and civil unions -supports three strikes law -pro-life
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516720]He gives responses like "trying way too hard" and "its satire" and yet I'm the one behaving like a child. Love it. As for "ignoring points:" I made my point two pages back, and this whole thing spiraled into dozens of different arguments that had no relevance to the topic at hand, presumably as a way to work around my point. He made the point that all republicans are evil, I showed him a republican who wasn't evil, and he has yet to respond.[/QUOTE] He said in the post you responded to which I quoted: The republican party supports a platform of homophobia. You did not deny it, nor address it. You just made a character attack.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;32516796]please link me the post where he specifically said all republicans are evil. and like i said before, you don't think romney's bad because he didn't veto a gay marriage bill? that's like saying palin is sane because she believes in women's rights or something.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JDK721;32515983]except it's not stereotyping. if you look at the core beliefs of the republican party you'll notice that they're homophobic, etc. keep being an apologist[/QUOTE] And again, this is what is so fustrating about attempting to argue things here. I do not have ANY opinions on Mitt Romeny. JDK said all republicans were homophobic. I posted one what wasn't. He refused to say anything more than "trying way too hard." Let me repeat myself, as I've said this before: [b]I DO NOT BELIEVE MITT ROMNEY IS A GOOD CANDIDATE JUST BECAUSE HE DID NOT VETO A GAY MARRIAGE BILL.[/b]
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516140]Even Mitt Romney, who passed state-level health-care reform into law years before Obama was even elected President? Whose state became the first in the nation to legalize same-sex marriage under his governorship? Yeah, what a total loon that guy is.[/QUOTE] As said, he thinks corporations are people. Under different circumstances I might let that one slide because of the other neat shit he's done, but right now if we let corporations be "people" it'll drive everyone who isn't a CEO homeless and jobless, because right now there's only two or three CEOs in the entire country who aren't a greedy cold-hearted bastard.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516844]And again, this is what is so fustrating about attempting to argue things here. I do not have ANY opinions on Mitt Romeny. JDK said all republicans were homophobic. I posted one what wasn't. He refused to say anything more than "tryign way too hard." Let me repeat myself, as I've said this before: [b]I DO NOT BELIEVE MITT ROMNEY IS A GOOD CANIDATE JUST BECAUSE HE DID NOT VETO A GAY MARRIAGE BILL.[/b][/QUOTE] except he IS homophobic considering that he doesn't support gay marriage or civil unions he's no different than any of the other mainstream republicans
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516844]And again, this is what is so fustrating about attempting to argue things here. I do not have ANY opinions on Mitt Romeny. JDK said all republicans were homophobic. I posted one what wasn't. He refused to say anything more than "trying way too hard." Let me repeat myself, as I've said this before: [b]I DO NOT BELIEVE MITT ROMNEY IS A GOOD CANDIDATE JUST BECAUSE HE DID NOT VETO A GAY MARRIAGE BILL.[/b][/QUOTE] okay first off there is no mention of the word "evil" in that post. secondly he did NOT say all republicans are homophobes, the republican PARTY'S platform views is against gay rights, he is not incorrect. and you said romney wasn't "evil" because he let a gay marriage bill pass, which is silly and why i called you out on it.
[QUOTE=JDK721;32516861]except he IS homophobic considering that he doesn't support gay marriage or civil unions[/QUOTE] haven't seen much major democrat progress on that either.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32516894]haven't seen much major democrat progress on that either.[/QUOTE] Because the party system prevents politicians from actually getting anything done.
I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore. All I did was post a video. This seems completely pointless. I wanted to argue about hecklers and heckling. Yet we're now arguing about republicans and gay marriage. I'm done here. You all win. I was wrong.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32516894]haven't seen much major democrat progress on that either.[/QUOTE] Is that why only largely Democratic states have recognized gay marriage in its entirety? Vermont, a state as leftist as you can get in the US, New York, a very liberal Democratic state, Iowa, who only recognized it when the Democrats held the state government. Connecticut and New Hampshire are states that can go either way as well, and only recognized it when Democrats were in charge. Massachusetts is solidly Democratic, and has been for years, they were one of the first to recognize it. That's all the states who've fully recognized same-sex marriage as legitimate so far. Notice a pattern?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32517007]Is that why only largely Democratic states have recognized gay marriage in its entirety? Vermont, a state as leftist as you can get in the US, New York, a very liberal Democratic state, Iowa, who only recognized it when the Democrats held the state government. Connecticut and New Hampshire are states that can go either way as well, and only recognized it when Democrats were in charge. Massachusetts is solidly Democratic, and has been for years, they were one of the first to recognize it. That's all the states who've fully recognized same-sex marriage as legitimate so far. Notice a pattern?[/QUOTE] I meant at a federal level but yeah that's a good point. ... so anyway, that video. heh.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32517093]I meant at a federal level but yeah that's a good point.[/QUOTE] At least you kept your dignity about it.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32507256]He responded quite well I must say. Also is it just me or is Obama's hair seriously going gray[/QUOTE] happens to all the presidents. it's a stressful job. in '92 Clinton had dark hair, in 2000 Bush had dark hair.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32517093]I meant at a federal level but yeah that's a good point.[/QUOTE] it will probably never be legalized at a federal level thanks to republicans
also Obama hater here, that heckler was a fucktard
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32516844]And again, this is what is so fustrating about attempting to argue things here. I do not have ANY opinions on Mitt Romeny. JDK said all republicans were homophobic. I posted one what wasn't. He refused to say anything more than "trying way too hard." Let me repeat myself, as I've said this before: [b]I DO NOT BELIEVE MITT ROMNEY IS A GOOD CANDIDATE JUST BECAUSE HE DID NOT VETO A GAY MARRIAGE BILL.[/b][/QUOTE] No, he didn't, he said the Republican party platform endorses homophobia Do you not fucking pay attention, I JUST went over this and quoted what he said.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32517388]No, he didn't, he said the Republican party platform endorses homophobia Do you not fucking pay attention, I JUST went over this and quoted what he said.[/QUOTE] Evidently, you don't pay attention very well. This debate is pointless, and I quite long ago. Take it for what you want. Pat yourself on the back kuz you won. There'sno point arguing anythign with people like this.
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