• Health Canada orders Winnipeg Police to arrest owner of a medical marijuana shop and his wife
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-police-arrest-owner-and-patient-at-medical-marijuana-dispensary-1.3178901[/url] [quote=CBC]Glenn Price, the owner of a medical marijuana dispensary on Main Street, has been arrested, along with his wife and a patient who was using the dispensary. The trio were arrested Tuesday morning, according to a staff member at Your Medical Cannabis Headquarters. "[We were] sweeping, turning lights on, and all of a sudden we were bombarded with SWAT and cops," said Chantelle Barkley, an employee at the shop. "I got asked if I worked there, then I got told to sit down." William Bell, the caretaker for the business, was cleaning a bong when police came in. He said as Price was ushered to the back room and arrested he asked Bell to get in touch with the media.[/quote]
Same legal loopy shithole that the US has to deal with, I can garentee if the next president is red, they'll crack down hard on all the states that legalized the stuff here
[QUOTE=Sableye;48377524]Same legal loopy shithole that the US has to deal with, I can garentee if the next president is red, they'll crack down hard on all the states that legalized the stuff here[/QUOTE] Then the Supreme Court saves the day again?
[QUOTE=Sableye;48377524]Same legal loopy shithole that the US has to deal with, I can garentee if the next president is red, they'll crack down hard on all the states that legalized the stuff here[/QUOTE] BTW the red party is the Liberals in Canada. The Conservatives are blue.
[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48377545]BTW the red party is the Liberals in Canada. The Conservatives are blue.[/QUOTE] He's talking about the US election in 2016.
Get utterly fucked, Health Canada. How are you able to breathe with Harper's arm shoved up your ass to his kneecaps? Kittenphoto McSweater needs to get voted the fuck out of his riding.
why would you allow the establishment of a legal marijuana dispensary and then raid it with a swat team
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;48377838]why would you allow the establishment of a legal marijuana dispensary and then raid it with a swat team[/QUOTE] Alternate title: Health Canada swats a medical marijuana shop
I don't understand how constitutionally we have the right to have our medicine sold to us, and the Supreme Court even agrees that marijuana is medicine, so on what grounds are we still opposing this? My province is in the process of regulating illegal weed dispensaries because it's too much of a hassle to fight, costs too much money and does nothing, yet we have folks like Rona Ambrose being stalwart and stubborn in the face of the courts and reasoning.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48377706]Get utterly fucked, Health Canada. How are you able to breathe with Harper's arm shoved up your ass to his kneecaps? Kittenphoto McSweater needs to get voted the fuck out of his riding.[/QUOTE] remember that Rona 'I Wish I Was Che Guevara' Ambrose was [I]fucking pissed[/I] when that scientific paper came out and publicly stated that it meant nothing, her organization is the only entity that can green-light prescription cannabis and they'll keep turning it down every time it gets sent to them as long as she's in charge. then she bitched out every cop in B.C. for not doing anything about people who own legal shops, even though you can literally watch interviews where the merchants describe undercover police routinely driving up in their off-duty vehicles and pressuring them to sell them weed without a doctor's notice. she's insane.
So the police let them open and run an illegal dispensary and when health canada found out they pressured the cops to shut them down? I dont see a problem with that, its expected.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48384844]So the police let them open and run an illegal dispensary and when health canada found out they pressured the cops to shut them down? I dont see a problem with that, its expected.[/QUOTE] Except the supreme court rules that marijuana in whatever form the patient wants it in is their legal right unless we just don't care about the supreme court and we go by Kittensweater Harpers rule in this country now
[QUOTE=Sableye;48377524]Same legal loopy shithole that the US has to deal with, I can garentee if the next president is red, they'll crack down hard on all the states that legalized the stuff here[/QUOTE] Technically they have the right to because it is federal law. The DEA could bust a pot joint in Colorado at any time
But morally, they don't. The people decided to legalize it, and the DEA doing that would pretty much mean the government doesn't give a shit about it's people (not that they already don't).
[QUOTE=Megadave;48385095]But morally, they don't. The people decided to legalize it, and the DEA doing that would pretty much mean the government doesn't give a shit about it's people (not that they already don't).[/QUOTE] The DEA does do this though. Quite often actually
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48385058]Except the supreme court rules that marijuana in whatever form the patient wants it in is their legal right unless we just don't care about the supreme court and we go by Kittensweater Harpers rule in this country now[/QUOTE] Yes, they can get it the legal way through a licensed distributor. That doesn't mean anyone can open up a shop and start selling medical weed. It just means they can consume it and buy it in other edible forms other than smoking it, I don't really know what you're getting at.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48385171]Yes, they can get it the legal way through a licensed distributor. That doesn't mean anyone can open up a shop and start selling medical weed. It just means they can consume it and buy it in other edible forms other than smoking it, I don't really know what you're getting at.[/QUOTE] I'm getting at how this method isn't fucking working and persecuting these people and marijuana users all over our country is wasting our money and time and going against the clear political call for legalization in this country? I'm getting at how a drug is a medicine that we're allowed to have by the supreme court, but due to licensing issues, being a legal seller of weed in Harpers Canada is nearly impossible, so you're basically just reinforcing a backwards system. [editline]6th August 2015[/editline] I mean I don't think you even fucking get it really. Dispensaries are illegal in Canada. So, I am not able to buy from a "Licensed" seller, because it just simply exists in a legally and morally grey area in Harpers Canada, so the supreme court ruling that I'm entitled to medicine how I want it, is basically meaningless. Like I don't think you get it at all. Canadians are fucking tired of waiting for a really obvious, and really necessary step in this process. There's 100 illegal dispensaries in my city, and guess what? They're all working with the local government because the federal government in our country is wrong on this issue.
[QUOTE=Sableye;48377524]Same legal loopy shithole that the US has to deal with, I can garentee if the next president is red, they'll crack down hard on all the states that legalized the stuff here[/QUOTE] How come? It seems to me that typically the people who don't like medical marijuana don't care nearly as much as the people who do, and - often on libertarian grounds, or "awesome, they're taxing something I don't do!" - there's a significant fraction of Republicans that even supports it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48390336]I'm getting at how this method isn't fucking working and persecuting these people and marijuana users all over our country is wasting our money and time and going against the clear political call for legalization in this country? I'm getting at how a drug is a medicine that we're allowed to have by the supreme court, but due to licensing issues, being a legal seller of weed in Harpers Canada is nearly impossible, so you're basically just reinforcing a backwards system. [editline]6th August 2015[/editline] I mean I don't think you even fucking get it really. Dispensaries are illegal in Canada. So, I am not able to buy from a "Licensed" seller, because it just simply exists in a legally and morally grey area in Harpers Canada, so the supreme court ruling that I'm entitled to medicine how I want it, is basically meaningless. Like I don't think you get it at all. Canadians are fucking tired of waiting for a really obvious, and really necessary step in this process. There's 100 illegal dispensaries in my city, and guess what? They're all working with the local government because the federal government in our country is wrong on this issue.[/QUOTE] Exactly this. The Supreme Court is siding with the patients, aka the People. Opposing them is the Federal Government with its sock puppet, Health Canada and the Health Minister. I [I]really[/I] hope this shit kicks up a lot of support for Sensible BC, a referendum movement to decriminalize weed in BC (since only the Feds can legalize it) and direct the provincial government to put pressure on the Federal government to legalize it. The first time the petitions failed with only half the number of required signatures (10% of every riding). The Supreme Court says I'm allowed to use pot as a medicine in any form I like, but becoming licensed to possess it and finding a way to legally obtain it is practically impossible for a (relatively) healthy, ambulatory adult like me, never mind someone with a debilitating condition like multiple sclerosis. Health Canada was forced by a 2000 Supreme Court decision to allow medical marijuana, and rolled out a feeble program in 2001. Since then HC has lost eight Supreme Court cases over its program being broken and deficient. It's broken [I]by design[/I]. Health Canada is refusing and actively fighting all attempts to legitimize marijuana in any way despite being repeatedly ordered to by the highest court in the country.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48390336]I'm getting at how this method isn't fucking working and persecuting these people and marijuana users all over our country is wasting our money and time and going against the clear political call for legalization in this country? I'm getting at how a drug is a medicine that we're allowed to have by the supreme court, but due to licensing issues, being a legal seller of weed in Harpers Canada is nearly impossible, so you're basically just reinforcing a backwards system. [editline]6th August 2015[/editline] I mean I don't think you even fucking get it really. Dispensaries are illegal in Canada. So, I am not able to buy from a "Licensed" seller, because it just simply exists in a legally and morally grey area in Harpers Canada, so the supreme court ruling that I'm entitled to medicine how I want it, is basically meaningless. Like I don't think you get it at all. Canadians are fucking tired of waiting for a really obvious, and really necessary step in this process. There's 100 illegal dispensaries in my city, and guess what? They're all working with the local government because the federal government in our country is wrong on this issue.[/QUOTE] There are dispenaries that you can buy from online and have it shipped to your door with a prescription, my cousin has loads of medical weed shipped to him every week for his chrons disease. It's not like it isnt available through all the legal channels. I could even get a prescription for it if I wanted to and have it shipped to me by next week. You just seem to have a problem with it not being available in a brick and mortar establishment or something. If you want to sell legal weed then go through the proper legal channels to do it and stop complaining when illegal dispensaries get raided because they couldn't bother to do things the right way.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48406060]There are dispenaries that you can buy from online and have it shipped to your door with a prescription, my cousin has loads of medical weed shipped to him every week for his chrons disease. It's not like it isnt available through all the legal channels. I could even get a prescription for it if I wanted to and have it shipped to me by next week. You just seem to have a problem with it not being available in a brick and mortar establishment or something. If you want to sell legal weed then go through the proper legal channels to do it and stop complaining when illegal dispensaries get raided because they couldn't bother to do things the right way.[/QUOTE] Those are illegal services. Straight up, your buddy is using something the FEDERAL government considers illegal. There ARE NO PROPER LEGAL CHANNELS IN CANADA TO DO THIS UNDER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Stop being ridiculously obtuse and realize that medicinal marijuana in our country is a sham and is largely run without the permission of the federal government. My province, is literally breaking federal law right now by regulating federally illegal dispensaries that are provincially legal. You seem to have this very black and white view, and it also seems to be a very uninformed view. Our civil disobedience to these laws is the only reason you can walk down the street in Vancouver smoking a joint in front of a cop and not be afraid that you as a citizen will now be fucked by the country for a harmless recreational activity that we've been denied even though we have every right to it. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] My point, Ultra bright, is that there is no "RIGHT WAY" in Harpers Canada. You cannot sell weed under federal law as medicine or otherwise, even though the supreme court have said it is our right. Civil disobedience as well as continued protests 10,000 strong in Vancouver are the only way we've been able to make headway. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] And before you go jumping the gun and saying I'm wrong about it being federally illegal, please realize that there is no clear cut decision on this case yet. The federal laws and the clashes they're having in Vancouver are being fought out in trial currently so we don't know where the law will really go next. Though, in Harpers Canada, weed will never be legal. Period. Never. No matter if 100% of the population of Canada said "Yes", Harper would deny us that. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_for_Medical_Purposes_Regulations[/url] A public poll showed 59% of Canadians support marijuanan decriminalization. That's more than the electoral base that got Harper in power. There's a point where government forgets, and fails to serve it's people, stop fucking asking people to sit idly by, hands under their asses, sucking government dick waiting for the right moment. That. Does. Not. Fucking. Work.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48409334]Those are illegal services. Straight up, your buddy is using something the FEDERAL government considers illegal. There ARE NO PROPER LEGAL CHANNELS IN CANADA TO DO THIS UNDER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Stop being ridiculously obtuse and realize that medicinal marijuana in our country is a sham and is largely run without the permission of the federal government. My province, is literally breaking federal law right now by regulating federally illegal dispensaries that are provincially legal. You seem to have this very black and white view, and it also seems to be a very uninformed view. Our civil disobedience to these laws is the only reason you can walk down the street in Vancouver smoking a joint in front of a cop and not be afraid that you as a citizen will now be fucked by the country for a harmless recreational activity that we've been denied even though we have every right to it.[/QUOTE] No they are legal, this one is even traded on the TSX [url]http://www.tweed.com/pages/investor-relations[/url] and [url]http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/info/list-eng.php[/url] Don't really care what harper thinks, if he really disagrees with it he can just enact a law that prevents health Canada from authorizing production and sale of medical weed.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48409359]No they are legal, this one is even traded on the TSX [url]http://www.tweed.com/pages/investor-relations[/url] and [url]http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/info/list-eng.php[/url] Don't really care what harper thinks, if he really disagrees with it he can just enact a law that prevents health Canada from authorizing production and sale of medical weed.[/QUOTE] So it seems legal to produce but illegal to sell through a store front in Canada, as that's an impossible federal license to get. I'm sorry, but I'm still failing to see how just submitting to our governments non stop bullshit is going to help anything or anyone ever. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ultra_bright;48409359] Don't really care what harper thinks, if he really disagrees with it he can just enact a law that prevents health Canada from authorizing production and sale of medical weed.[/QUOTE] Which will likely happen if he gets reelected as he won't be fearing being deposed by young people anymore. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] And the whole concept of needing a doctors prescription is ridiculous as well. You basically need a doctor who is atypical, and who is actually properly informed about marijuana, which they don't seem to be very often. Not to mention, now health canada, is cracking down on doctors who do prescribe marijuana. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] Medical marijuana is just a dumb stop gap to real legalization. It needs to be regulated and sold like alcohol. Or, we will forever see civil disobedience as people continue to smoke it and grow it because they know better than the government on this issue and are chronically being misrepresented by the government in this country.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48409388]So it seems legal to produce but illegal to sell through a store front in Canada, as that's an impossible federal license to get. I'm sorry, but I'm still failing to see how just submitting to our governments non stop bullshit is going to help anything or anyone ever. And the whole concept of needing a doctors prescription is ridiculous as well. .[/QUOTE] The point is you can still buy it online and have it shipped to you like the amazon.ca of weed if you have a doctors note, it allows for stricter control and keeps people without medical needs from getting it since all the transactions are recorded. Also, that other statement is just dumb. Your doctor will know what medication you need the most for any particular illness, but if you just want to use him as an excuse to buy weed there are sites you can visit to pay doctors over skype to fax/mail/email you a prescription.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48409491]The point is you can still buy it online and have it shipped to you like the amazon.ca of weed if you have a doctors note, it allows for stricter control and keeps people without medical needs from getting it since all the transactions are recorded. Also, that other statement is just dumb. Your doctor will know what medication you need the most for any particular illness, but if you just want to use him as an excuse to buy weed there are sites you can visit to pay doctors over skype to fax/mail/email you a prescription.[/QUOTE] Why is it stupid to want this legalized for recreational purposes? Wouldn't that alleviate the strain on the medical system? And yes, finding a doctor who will properly prescribe marijuana is a rarity for a lot of people. I've taken 6 different anti depressants and had 3 suicide attempts between them and never felt any better. I smoked weed and I felt better. Yes, doctors know best to continue to prescribe me drugs that exacerbate my condition.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48409600]Why is it stupid to want this legalized for recreational purposes? Wouldn't that alleviate the strain on the medical system? [/QUOTE] There is no strain on the medical system, you just don't know how to find one or get a prescription so you blame the government.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;48410338]There is no strain on the medical system, you just don't know how to find one or get a prescription so you blame the government.[/QUOTE] Because health Canada is cracking down on doctors who prescribe it so less doctors are willing to? Yeah, you're right, I've been through 6 doctors and it's MY fault. No.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48410388]Because health Canada is cracking down on doctors who prescribe it so less doctors are willing to? Yeah, you're right, I've been through 6 doctors and it's MY fault. No.[/QUOTE] Can you even prove that? Also, if you've tried to kill yourself three times you don't need weed, you need serious help.
Yeah, because being on anti depressants was the help they offered. Those anti depressants caused the attempts. Weed helped more than those. So, stop.
Does weed help with depression?
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