Debt would swell under Republican candidates' tax plans: study
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[QUOTE=The Baconator;34851405]Here's a video of his two days ago on the Daily show with Jon Stewart, he doesn't bring up the Bush part but makes some really good points:
[url]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-22-2012/bruce-bartlett?xrs=share_copy[/url]
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The book is brought up if anyone is interested[/QUOTE]
OH. GOD. YES.
Head to 6:40 of the video. Jon Stewart outlines what I've been hoping will happen for a [B]long[/B] time now. The two parties will splinter and their monopoly on power will topple. My only hope is that if this does happen then rational Independents will leap at the chance to take back the gov't. I know I'm being optimistic as hell but I can't help it. The mere thought of it is awesome, in the true definition of the word.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34841951]This study doesn't take into account the effects tax cuts have on economic behavior, so this is pretty much invalid[/QUOTE]
You have proof analogous cuts have actually positively impacted a nation's GDP in similar circumstances? You'd be the first, I'd love to see it.
My first thought upon seeing the thread title was "NO SHIT."
I'm less convinced that they actually think their policies will work and thinking that they're just trying to suck whatever they can out of the country for wealthy middle aged Americans.
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;34840741]Ron Paul doesn't want to go to war. Ron Paul makes a lot of sense.
The only thing I disagree with him is his views on creationism and that controversy with him about gays going back to being a closet homosexual.[/QUOTE]
I can't let comments like this stand. Here's a quote from his book:
[quote]"No one person has perfect knowledge as to man's emergence on this earth. Yet almost everyone has a strong religious, scientific, or emotional opinion he or she considers gospel. The creationists frown on the evolutionists, and the evolutionists dismiss the creationists as kooky and unscientific. Lost in this struggle are those who look objectively at the scientific evidence for evolution without feeling any need to reject the notion of an all-powerful, all-knowing Creator. My personal view is that recognizing the validity of the evolutionary process does not support atheism nor should it diminish one's view about God and the universe.
This is a debate about science and religion...and should not involve politicians at all."
"As Thomas Jefferson said: "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or nor God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."[/quote]
[url]http://libertydefined.org/issue/17[/url]
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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34846264]So basically, if you want the debt reduced, you could either vote for the lunatic who wants to raze the country to the ground or you could vote for Obama.[/QUOTE]
Obama who's more than happy to raze other countries in the Middle East(without congressional approval or a declaration of war).
And these assholes say that Obama spent too much and that he should be ashamed, then they do this instead of trying to decrease debt.
[QUOTE=riceninja;34847481]ok so all people eat slices of pie to live and all people work hard in order to bake fatter pies. pie is made through a oven (business) . there are also many different types of pies that vary in nutrition and flavor. everyone works for a nice huge stack of pies so they and their family can get fat and happy.
the majority of people specialize in the production of an ingredient. ingredients are not nutritious enough to sate hunger. they contribute to the creation of pie in return for a piece of the pie proportional to the value of the ingredient. higher value ingredients are hard to understand how to be extracted and require years and years to study of pie making and/or experience in extracting ingredients. lower valuable ingredients are easier to understand how to be extracted and require little to no years of study and experience to be retrieved. People also trade their pie stacks for their preferred type of pie
pie bakers own ovens. the oven collect ingredients and produces a unique pie. the pie baker risks his stack of pies on a oven he thinks will produce a good pie. he hires people for their ingredient's and pays them by splitting the baked pie. in order to feed himself he takes whats left. the ratio of the produced pie compared to pies spent is the profit or loss margin. if he profits he is able to take in more pie, rewards his workers, and make his oven bigger. if at a loss, the baker must choose to reduce his pay, his workers pay, or simply fire them.
a group of people can risk their pie stacks to own their own part of a oven proportional to the amount payed (stock holder). the more invested in a oven, the more they risk losing pies or gaining pies.
everyone gets to vote on government which decides how much they get to tax to and how its spent for things like pie crust (military, police), pie taste and toxicity (regulations), pie crumbs (welfare, pensions), pie recipes (research), bill-pye-the-science-guy (education) and pie-on-the-fly (transportation, roads). most recently added piaed (healthcare). every one pays a percentage of their pie stacks for the same amount of services.
Now on the pielitical spectrum, most people to the left want more taxes on the fattest pieacieans because they feel the skinnier pieatites aren't fed enough and starving. they also feel that too many fatties are payed too much and are exploiting them. so they want public ovens to protect their interests and increase the wage they are payed. they want to make it easier for people to have the opportunity to study different recipes, ingredients, or start their own oven. many think the right are just piecists and pietards.
Now to the right of the spectrum, pieriades feel like they are taxed too damn much. they claim that fatties hard earned pies are being stolen and they pay a lot more in taxes for the same amount of services. they also feel that taxes take away from upper pieple who make good pie stacks from investing in, or running successful ovens, which then in turn hurts the ovens ability to hire works and loses competition to other pielands. they call this crumble-down economics. they would also prefer government be ran more by private ovens, because public ovens are inefficient because they don't have to compete. many think the left are just socialists and they are enpietled to too much.[/QUOTE]
The pieple must seize the means of pieduction
[QUOTE=snuwoods;34855290]Obama who's more than happy to raze other countries in the Middle East(without congressional approval or a declaration of war).[/QUOTE]Uhh, what? You talking about Libya, where it was a NATO operation carried out on the basis of a UN Security Council Declaration?
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