• Some Experts Say: Obama Re-election Is Americans' Top Fear
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[QUOTE=Sanius;34155960]no president has ever been the best president[/QUOTE] Ahem. [IMG]http://i31.tinypic.com/5366o.jpg[/IMG] "To sit home, read one's favorite paper, and scoff at the misdeeds of the men who do things is easy, but it is markedly ineffective. It is what evil men count upon the good men's doing."
I am really astonished how much you guys still stand behind Obama after he signed NDAA when nobody was paying attention and how he is highly likely to sign SOPA into law when/if it passes.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;34161186]Are you THAT bad at reading?[/QUOTE] "But that isn't MY stereotype. I'm using what YOUR nation has been pushing the past 20 years. If anyone but Obama gets elected, you're headed that way... I conclude that by the other candidates PROMISING you that you will go that way. Controlling and regulating the liberties of non-christians is the same scenario as controlling and regulating the liberties of Non-muslims son." You implied it if nothing else.
I wonder if fear is really the right word to be using. People fear terrorists. People fear drowning. People fear death. People dislike presidents. People dislike policies. People dislike bad sex. Edit: See where I'm going with this trend?
I don't see any good candidates, to be honest. I feel as if the US is going to be fucked.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34169491]I don't see any good candidates, to be honest. I feel as if the US is going to be fucked.[/QUOTE] Not fucked; I doubt the US will collapse anytime soon. Nothing good will come of this upcoming election, though.
I'm more afraid of Paul or Un taking over the country than Obama remaining in power.
[QUOTE=Squad;34154910]Out of any of the republicans running right now the most sane is Ron Paul.[/QUOTE] I don't know, wanting to entirely secede from the world is [I]pretty batshit[/I]
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;34169669]I don't know, wanting to entirely secede from the world is [I]pretty batshit[/I][/QUOTE] Yup, we're not going to trade with the rest of the world with Paul as President. [img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-downs.gif[/img]
I wouldn't call Obama as one of the best. It's because you put him along with the retards like McCain is what makes him "the best thing ever". [QUOTE=Contag;34159092]Clinton was [B]not[/B] a good president[/QUOTE] Why not? He create surplus and reversed the debt increase that Reagan and Bush Sr. done in their administration.
Experts can say what they want. I'm personally voting Obama cause he black.
[QUOTE=Contag;34159092]Clinton was [B]not[/B] a good president[/QUOTE] No offense, but unless you were watching his moves as president (also as a US citizen), you'd think otherwise. He 1. balanced the budget for the first time in 32 years. 2. Renewed diplomatic relations with half the middle east 3. Never declared war on a major country.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;34169504]Not fucked; I doubt the US will collapse anytime soon. Nothing good will come of this upcoming election, though.[/QUOTE] Instead of focusing more on the presidential elections, people need to focus on the Congressional elections. It's not Obama that failed us, it's the entire system. Obama had his ups and downs, but without a shadow of a doubt, Congress has been the biggest failure that this country has ever seen.
[QUOTE=redhaven;34170453]Why not? He create surplus and reversed the debt increase that Reagan and Bush Sr. done in their administration.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ewitwins;34171024]1. balanced the budget for the first time in 32 years. [/QUOTE] does deficit = bad and surplus = good? if today's economy was as strong* as it was back then then Obama would have just as easy time in terms of budget management, not to mention I don't think simply looking at surplus/deficit figures gives you a big enough picture to rate how the president performed I put an asterisk there because the reason why the economy saw growth then a collapse later on with the Bush administration was because Clinton, along with Greenspan (ex-banker, chairman of the FED during 87-06) further contributed to the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm–Leach–Bliley_Act"]deregulation[/URL] of the banking system and basically fueled a massive bubble that in the short run, rapidly increased economic growth, but look what happened from there not saying the financial crisis was all Clinton's fault, by no means, I just think people give him too much credit
[QUOTE=I_Forgot;34152734]Well, regardless of what Fox News says, my greatest fear is having one of those loony GOP people become president. Obama seems like a much, much better choice.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I think the Republican candidates this time around have created an interesting case study on what not to do when running for president. All of them seem to be going on the logic of "More extremist = more votes from my party = better chance of nomination," which means cuddling up with the loonies who [i]define[/i] the term "extremist" and pledging to ban porn/bomb Iran/eat all the babies in order to sate them. This is fine. In the short term. When one of them finally beats down the others and starts going against Obama, though, they'll have pretty much all the Republican votes they've been vying for in their pocket from the get-go. But the undecided/middle ground is eventually going to walk up to him and go "Sooo... you want to ban porn/bomb Iran/eat all the babies, huh?" He'll either have to go the whole distance and reply with "Hell yeah!," which would be bad. Or he could say "I don't actually hold those beliefs; I just said whatever it took to get the nomination," which would be [i]worse[/i]. I, for one, am [i]incredibly[/i] interested in which route is eventually taken.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34171024]3. Never declared war on a major country.[/QUOTE] Setting the bar low are we?
[quote]I fear it!!! I want the old America...the one that lead the world and was strong, prosperous, thoughtful, proud, a nation of accomplishment, a nation where the government didn't hold citizens back from success, where laws were upheld and applied to everyone, where to president wasn't taking vacation after vacation, playing round of golf after round of golf, where the President took leadership roles in times of crisis, where laws were passed according to the constitution...not sneaking around the WH and Capitol during the night, etc. IT"S TIME FOR A TRUE LEADER NOW!!! [/quote] Thank you for the comment, Madbob.
[h2]A vote for Colbert is a vote for freedom.[/h2] [img]http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/2010/09/stephen_colbert.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Motherfuckers;34174324][h2]A vote for Colbert is a vote for freedom.[/h2] [img]http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/2010/09/stephen_colbert.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] If Colbert became president, i would move to America
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;34169669]I don't know, wanting to entirely secede from the world is [I]pretty batshit[/I][/QUOTE] As much as I disagree with Ron Paul, this is a pretty shit mischaracterization of his viewpoint.
I want Obama to win, but it seems that at this point any bill he'll try to pass will get filibustered by republicans. Look at one of his more recent bills, where he would tax the rich more without loopholes. They still filibustered it regardless of rational reasoning.
[QUOTE=Run&Gun12;34181559]I want Obama to win, but it seems that at this point any bill he'll try to pass will get filibustered by republicans. Look at one of his more recent bills, where he would tax the rich more without loopholes. They still filibustered it regardless of rational reasoning.[/QUOTE] Taxing the rich is irrational to republicans. And I believe that Ron Paul would be blocked even more than Obama, considering he has little support from either side of Congress.
"Many people say that vauge generalisations in some amount of possibly existent statements could possibly in some way have some general truth to them they say." Holy shit theres so much truth in this post
[QUOTE=Run&Gun12;34181559]I want Obama to win, but it seems that at this point any bill he'll try to pass will get filibustered by republicans. Look at one of his more recent bills, where he would tax the rich more without loopholes. They still filibustered it regardless of rational reasoning.[/QUOTE]Actually, the good thing is that, because he won't have to worry about reelection next term, he can basically be as brusk with Congress as he wants, and can push all day long to try and get bills through. And hopefully, the people won't be incompetent and will vote for something other than the conservatives. Fuck the GOP and Tea Party/other NeoCons.
Stay classy fox news.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34157220]In terms of the choice, it's basically like this: 1. Vote for Obama to go against the GOP candidate (who will probably be Mitt Romney) 2. Vote for the GOP to go against Obama (Unless you REALLY like Social Conservatism, bad option) 3. Vote for 3rd party you agree with the most in protest of the two-party system[/QUOTE] The way the system is set up, voting for a third party even to 'protest the two-party system' is only going to take away votes from Obama. This is a bad time to fight the system because it will only leave less votes for Obama. The GOP nominee has a better chance when the people who would normally support more of the ideas of the democrats are 'wasting' votes.
[QUOTE=Galago;34182682]The way the system is set up, voting for a third party even to 'protest the two-party system' is only going to take away votes from Obama. This is a bad time to fight the system because it will only leave less votes for Obama. The GOP nominee has a better chance when the people who would normally support more of the ideas of the democrats are 'wasting' votes.[/QUOTE] Well yes, many would say that a vote for the Green Party (as an example) is a vote taken from the Democrats.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;34173096]Setting the bar low are we?[/QUOTE] It's what we Americans do for a living.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;34158302]I don't know what you're talking about, the man had entire towns named after him![/QUOTE] And a dam And a suction device
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