• Trees cheer you up more than a million quid does
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Honestly, in my opinion the thick coniferous forest is the least beautiful thing of the swedish country-side but that's just me, I prefer lakes, open plains and deciduous forests.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;43544801]Any Sobotnik post: [I]"I am right and you are wrong."[/I] Ironically calls other people psychopaths.[/QUOTE] i don't really get how this makes me a psychopath but ok
[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;43546780]I completely agree with this. I've never felt at home where I am (I live in a city), when I went away for 3 weeks into rural areas of america and hawaii, I felt so, so happy. I know it was because of the natural land and its captivating beauty.[/QUOTE] well but you see [quote]3 weeks[/quote] that's the reason why rural areas are great places to visit, but living in them is just stressful unless you were born in a similar place
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43546985]well but you see that's the reason why rural areas are great places to visit, but living in them is just stressful unless you were born in a similar place[/QUOTE] Okay hold your phone, you're saying the country-side is stressful? Compared to what? [I]Cities[/I]?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43540431] Cosmopolitan best.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;43540411]But the countryside is so boring and shit. It's too quiet, the people are too homogeneous, internet is worse, you have to travel for ages to get to any shops or attractions.[/QUOTE] You and Geddy Lee seem to share similar sentiments. [video=youtube;Lu9Ycq64Gy4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9Ycq64Gy4[/video] [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] Terrific song btw, although I disagree with it vehemently.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43546999]Okay hold your phone, you're saying the country-side is stressful? Compared to what? [I]Cities[/I]?[/QUOTE] i'm saying living there is stressful. needing a car and not being able to walk anywhere is stressful. having to drive 25 mins just to get to the closest store is stressful. not having as many places to hang out at is stressful. living in a place that lacks any sort of entertainment is stressful. having shitty internet and no phone signal is stressful. like i said, great to visit, awful to live in.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43547040]i'm saying living there is stressful. needing a car and not being able to walk anywhere is stressful. having to drive 25 mins just to get to the closest store is stressful. not having as many places to hang out at is stressful. living in a place that lacks any sort of entertainment is stressful. having shitty internet and no phone signal is stressful. like i said, great to visit, awful to live in.[/QUOTE] That's not stressful, that's boring.
[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;43546780]I completely agree with this. I've never felt at home where I am (I live in a city), when I went away for 3 weeks into rural areas of america and hawaii, I felt so, so happy. I know it was because of the natural land and its captivating beauty.[/QUOTE] Its probably because it was novel. I live in the Midwest in a fairly small city, and thought the week visit to New York was one of the coolest things ever. Humans love novel things, and visiting a new environment is novel.
[QUOTE=Demache;43547575]Its probably because it was novel. I live in the Midwest in a fairly small city, and thought the week visit to New York was one of the coolest things ever. Humans love novel things, and visiting a new environment is novel.[/QUOTE] Maybe it's novelty but honestly it might just have been some really nice places or the country-side may just generally be nice - not everybody starts hating their places after they've lived there for a while. Just sayin', it might not be novelty.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43547040]i'm saying living there is stressful. needing a car and not being able to walk anywhere is stressful. having to drive 25 mins just to get to the closest store is stressful. not having as many places to hang out at is stressful. living in a place that lacks any sort of entertainment is stressful. having shitty internet and no phone signal is stressful. like i said, great to visit, awful to live in.[/QUOTE] You also need to be a bit more organized in your planning. Going to the city to get something that isn't available in a nearby town is not a trivial affair. Its a bit nicer now with online ordering for most non-essentials, but when it comes to groceries and such, you usually make sure you get EVERYTHING you need.
[QUOTE=Demache;43547614]You also need to be a bit more organized in your planning. Going to the city to get something that isn't available in a nearby town is not a trivial affair. Its a bit nicer now with online ordering for most non-essentials, but when it comes to groceries and such, you usually make sure you get EVERYTHING you need.[/QUOTE] Yeah might be true but not always, even on the country side people seem to live around stores, so it's not necessarily a part of the country-side.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43547607]Maybe it's novelty but honestly it might just have been some really nice places or the country-side may just generally be nice - not everybody starts hating their places after they've lived there for a while. Just sayin', it might not be novelty.[/QUOTE] Some places are genuinely great places to live. I doubt many people say they are glad they live in Detroit. And many are glad they live in the mountains. But you really can't truely say "X place is better than Y" until you actually live there permanently so you get to experience all the upsides and downsides and to make sure that novelty isn't a factor.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43547062]That's not stressful, that's boring.[/QUOTE] it's pretty damn stressful for me, not being able to go out with friends, knowing i could be doing so much more but realizing i'm just sitting there doing nothing simply because i can't, while i'd be doing a lot if i was in the same situation, but in the city. don't try to tell me that spending way more gas money for every little trip, that taking so much longer to get to anywhere interesting, and that being stuck in a fucking house and not doing shit with my life isn't stressful. just thinking about it makes me stressed out, i'm glad i don't live there anymore.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43547674]it's pretty damn stressful for me, not being able to go out with friends, [B]knowing i could be doing so much more but realizing i'm just sitting there doing nothing simply because i can't[/B], while i'd be doing a lot if i was in the same situation, but in the city. don't try to tell me that spending way more gas money for every little trip, that taking so much longer to get to anywhere interesting, and that being stuck in a fucking house and not doing shit with my life isn't stressful. just thinking about it makes me stressed out, i'm glad i don't live there anymore.[/QUOTE] Yeah that very part is a symptom of boredom, overwork or feeling overwhelmed is more about stress, you can suffer anxiety from both. But not everybody feels bored this easily - I can imagine if you have been living in the city for all your life and you're used to having so many things happening at once that you raise your resistance to and ability to deal with stress so that it does not bother you as much. Then going to live in the country-side might be incredibly boring to you. Just cause you're like that doesn't mean everybody's like that.
[QUOTE=Demache;43547614]You also need to be a bit more organized in your planning. Going to the city to get something that isn't available in a nearby town is not a trivial affair. Its a bit nicer now with online ordering for most non-essentials, but when it comes to groceries and such, you usually make sure you get EVERYTHING you need.[/QUOTE] well, everything that i ordered online took ages to get to where i lived so nah. also, even if you're organized you might just eat too much of this or that, and end up not having enough of something and then again, 30 mins just to get to a nearby store, whereas in the city it'd be literally down the street [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;43547703]Yeah that very part is a symptom of boredom, overwork or feeling overwhelmed is more about stress, you can suffer anxiety from both.[/QUOTE] you don't fucking understand, god. i'm talking about being physically unable to. when i lived in the countryside, i couldn't drive (i went to the US, i was old enough but exchange students are not allowed to drive). i made tons of new friends and lost contact with them in the same year because i couldn't fucking do anything. knowing that there were so many new experiences i missed, so many people i couldn't go out and have fun with, it just made me fucking depressed, seriously, fuck the countryside [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] at this point i'm just ranting about my own experience so my bad, i'll try to keep it on topic from now on
Well I don't even know why you argue the point then
Small towns and the everybody knows everybody mentality scares the shit out of me. I know, I grew up in a fairly small town. The space is really nice, for sure, and I miss being able to go out into it alone and feel connected to nature. But for me, the city is full of people, which have just as many stories as the birds and the trees do, and the buildings, all of which are testaments to human achievement. I like the noise and the constant motion. It means that I can go out, or even just look out at any time of night and there will be some kind of action.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43547774]Well I don't even know why you argue the point then[/QUOTE] my point is that i lived in the countryside and it was one of the worst experiences i've ever had there you go
This is part of the reason I love Portland [img]http://www.americanforests.org/wp-content/uploads/EasyRotatorStorage/user-content/erf_21_1359748082/erc_16_1359990671/content/assets/Portland,%20Oregon,%20with%20Mt.%20Hood%20in%20the%20distance.%20ThinHouse-0.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.denverinfill.com/images/blog/2007-09/2007-09-11_portland_trees2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.denverinfill.com/images/blog/2007-09/2007-09-11_portland_trees1.jpg[/img] Trees everywhere!
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43547819]my point is that i lived in the countryside and it was one of the worst experiences i've ever had there you go[/QUOTE] You should see finnish countryside. Atleast where I live, there are no fastfood places, no music stores, absolutely nothing. The only thing we really have is 1 hotel, 2 supermarkets and that's about it, really. The town itself is like what, 1km big? And everybody is old and racist, homophobic whatever, you name it. Also this "everybody knows everybody" thing is horrible. Man, Finland in it's entirety is dull. The landscape is just a huge bore and the fact that 90% of it is some forest with nobody in it. I'm moving to a different country that's for sure. Canada most likely, not Quebec though. As long as I get to speak english, finnish as a language is just depressing imo. Monotonous and ugly as hell.
I live in the rural town of Voss, Norway. Around 15k inhabitants. [img]http://justacro.com/files/spteasers/voss2003_22.jpg[/img] Those flying things are paragliders. I own one too.
[QUOTE=Petrussen;43549732]I live in the rural town of Voss, Norway. Around 15k inhabitants. [img]http://justacro.com/files/spteasers/voss2003_22.jpg[/img] Those flying things are paragliders. I own one too.[/QUOTE] i'm sorry could you repeat that i thought you said you lived in a miyazaki universe
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43547062]That's not stressful, that's boring.[/QUOTE] being bored creates anxiety which could be called stress. it's a horrible feeling, although it has its worth in small doses [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] i love living in a city. right now i'm in the fastest growing region of the 2nd biggest city in the country and i wouldnt trade it for anything. i've lived in the city centre for 2 years now but moving to this district was the best thing ever. there's new bars and stores like every single month, loads of pop-up places, everyone is always excited to try new things. it's excellent. i can walk out my door and within 50m there's around 8 bars (most of which serve great food), a barbers, a tattoo parlour, a pub, and an incredible coffee shop where my friendliness with most of the staff there means i get discount or free stuff all the time the only drawback for me is that the main shopping street, where i do my grocery shopping, is horrendously busy from november to the new year but i can put up with that. sometimes too you have to time things so you're not trying to shop at like 5-6pm because of rush-hour foot-traffic, but other than that i love it
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43542299]How about [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeable_paving"]permeable pavement of sort?[/URL] Something which lets rainwater go down into the sewers, and at the same time allows for some form of pavement. Actually... How about grass and concrete sidewalks? [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Rasenpflasterstein_1.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] but think how quickly it would be ruined by chewing gum, cigarette butts and puke from saturday nights :(
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43543989]No I just prefer attractions in the cities. They have pubs and cinemas, cultural events, etc. Countryside has them as well, but naturally it's always going to have less than the city, and on a smaller scale.[/quote] Bah. There's a drive-in not half an hour from my house. Fuck normal cinemas. [quote]no[/quote] Not my fault you're too lazy to entertain yourself. [quote]pig farms[/quote] lol [quote]k[/quote] I'm serious. Your eyes get adjusted to the constant light the city has in it. Spend more than a couple nights out in the countryside and your eyes will adapt just fine. [quote]we get it, you want to be a psychopath[/quote] Wrong. A psychopath wouldn't care about doing those things in the safety of rural fuckville. They'd do 'em in downtown. See, I can do those things in my back yard because I live somewhere where I'm not endangering anyone else in the process. If I lived in the city I'd have to go to a gun range every time I wanted to enjoy my plinking hobby. Which costs money, and burns gas. Also, real mature of you. Can't actually refute the point so you just resort to namecalling. Remind me again why I should give more than half of a fuck about what you have to say again? Because if that's as mature as you're gonna get I'm not even going to give that half. [quote] and blow up stuff in your back garden[/quote] Blowing shit up is fun. When done safely. Which is easy to do when you're dealing with consumer grade fireworks and have 40+ acres to yourself. [quote]the countryside isn't free to me.[/quote] That's because you have the "Society owes me entertainment" mindset. You expect someone else to provide you with something to do. Of course you're gonna be disappointed when you're faced with creating your own entertainment. [quote]if you don't have a car[/quote] If you don't have a car [i]anywhere[/i] in this country you're SOL. [quote], and the buses are shit,[/quote] I'd rather walk than ride a bus. Any bus. I had enough of that shit going to school. [quote] then the countryside is shit to live in[/quote] No. It's not 'shit to live in'. It's 'not somewhere Sobotnik would live.' Learn the difference. [quote] sorry.[/quote] You're not sorry so quit throwing out pleasantries. [quote] you can't fucking get anywhere without a car there[/quote] So? You can't hardly get anywhere without a car in the suburbs, either. You've got to remember that we're talking about America, here. Unless you're living in a high-rise public transit is most likely not an option. [quote] and the quality of country roads makes it a crapshoot anyways[/quote] That's why you drive something that rides more than two inches off the ground and has suspension arms made of something more substantial than the tin foil around a baked potato. Even in your land of exhorbitant, unfairly taxed gasoline you should see a clear trend in that direction the farther away from the city you go. 'Tis pretty much the only place you can go in Britian and find somewhere a Ford F150 would be right at home, mostly because of the very reason you said. It's also worth noting that the roads are actually worse in downtown Nashville than they are in front of my house. For some bizarre reason TDOT saw the need to completely repave every single inch of a road where rush hour is two cars in the span of an hour. Yet they ignore fuckhueg truck-eating potholes in the city. [quote]and bicycles are fun until you realize the weather is shit about 300 days of the year[/QUOTE] 1: Only for some people. I don't find them fun. Not anymore, anyway. I'll happily get around on two wheels but only if one of them is turned by an internal combustion engine producing at least, if not more than, 50HP. 2: When I was a kid using a mountain bike to get around I absolutely loved riding in the rain. Meant I didn't get hot, sweaty and tired.
I don't necessarily enjoy biking either but it's there as a perfectly valid way of transportation and it's very useful when living in the country.
I wish my city would have more variety in architecture. It's all the same greyish buildings everywhere. And trees don't really better the image in my opinion because one gets tired of the same green fast. It's really depressing. Call it the gras is greener on the other side but countries like Japan have much more exiting and colorful cities. Countrysides are nice if you are visiting someone for a few weeks but I can't imagine living in one. I would get too bored fast.
[QUOTE=TestECull;43550719]I'm serious. Your eyes get adjusted to the constant light the city has in it. Spend more than a couple nights out in the countryside and your eyes will adapt just fine.[/quote] there's places in the countryside with literally no lighting, your eyes don't simply "adapt just fine". even if they did, no fucking way i'm walking around in pitch black darkness [quote]That's because you have the "Society owes me entertainment" mindset. You expect someone else to provide you with something to do. Of course you're gonna be disappointed when you're faced with creating your own entertainment.[/quote] what the fuck does that even mean? are you actually dissing on all the entertainment cities offer with events, quality bars and restaurants or literally any other place you can hang out at? "creating your own entertainment" doesn't replace live music, museums or cinemas. [quote]If you don't have a car [i]anywhere[/i] in this country you're SOL. I'd rather walk than ride a bus. Any bus. I had enough of that shit going to school. You can't hardly get anywhere without a car in the suburbs, either. You've got to remember that we're talking about America, here. Unless you're living in a high-rise public transit is most likely not an option.[/quote] i'm sorry but what you're saying is just flat out wrong and no, that's not subjective. the US is like, the third biggest country in the world. there's a shitload of places and i'm 100% sure that plenty of them offer good public transport, and that's if you need it, because if you're living in a city like mine, for example, you have all the services you need within a 1.5km radius of you. where i lived in the states, the nearest wal-mart was 5.4 miles away from my house, there's no way in hell you're going to walk that far for groceries, or for anything, really.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43551336]there's places in the countryside with literally no lighting, your eyes don't simply "adapt just fine". even if they did, no fucking way i'm walking around in pitch black darkness[/quote] The lighting depends on location and season, for example during the middle of winter over here it's almost pitch-black during the night - it's not, but almost - during most of the year though it's light enough to see pretty good even in midnight. [quote]what the fuck does that even mean? are you actually dissing on all the entertainment cities offer with events, quality bars and restaurants or literally any other place you can hang out at? "creating your own entertainment" doesn't replace live music, museums or cinemas.[/quote] He's not dissing it, he's just saying that you're so used to be able to find something to entertain you any-time you want without you actually having to be involved or do anything to get it, so naturally you have a harder time finding entertainment when you're by yourself and you'll get bored.
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