Horrifying Audio of Man Killing Unarmed Teens Released By Court
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I guess if 'normal' means 'not a criminal' yeah I agree. This guy is a murderer, his own tape proves it. He was in no danger. Not only that, his own words show maliciousness and clear knowledge of what is going on and what he intends.
It's bad enough to shoot without knowing who you're shooting at, like that guy in S Africa. This is on an even worse level.
That man is a murderer.
Oh man, that fucking creepy-ass whispered rant at the end.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44706109]They broke into his house over 30 times. Instead of calling the police he killed them one after the other in his basement. This wasn't self defense, it was pure and simple murder.[/QUOTE]
Over 30 times? What the shit are you exaggerating or it was actually that many times.
How dumb do they have to be to fuck with a clearly unstable dude [I]30 times[/I].
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;44706479]You don't suddenly go insane because of break-ins, you go insane from a fucking mental illness. PTSD from break-ins and psychotic actions are too different things.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're extremely level-headed when people break into your home with potential to harm you.
I think it's his little speech in the end that got me. No sane person does something like that after committing something so horrible.
Cant wait for the "based on a true story" horror movie except in this one the home invaders start fucking and the man has like zombie powers or something
and like there's a dog maybe?
This is a planned ambush, and as such is 1st Degree Murder. He went as far as to fucking execute them for god sake. If he was concerned with dealing with them, he could of put them at gun point, and did a citizen arrest, and called the cops. Their was absolutely no reason to kill the teens that broke in.
I think the problem is how the police let this happen 30 TIMES.
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;44707205]I think the problem is how the police let this happen 30 TIMES.[/QUOTE]
This brings up another interesting point by the way.
If the guy was setting an ambush, he could of called the Police, and got one or two officers to come into the building with him, and actually capture the teens in the act of breaking in, and had them arrested.
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;44707205]I think the problem is how the police let this happen 30 TIMES.[/QUOTE]
Not all of them were reported, not to mention the police cannot be there to watch over your home 24/7. This is why neighborhood watch groups are formed.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44707236]This brings up another interesting point by the way.
If the guy was setting an ambush, he could of called the Police, and got one or two officers to come into the building with him, and actually capture the teens in the act of breaking in, and had them arrested.[/QUOTE]
Pardon me if I am ill-informed, but is that even legal? I doubt many police departments would comply with such an act as it could possibly be a waste of time and resources.
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;44707205]I think the problem is how the police let this happen 30 TIMES.[/QUOTE]
The police aren't omnipresent. You can't stop a crime you don't know happened. Police reports exist for a reason.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44707236]This brings up another interesting point by the way.
If the guy was setting an ambush, he could of called the Police, and got one or two officers to come into the building with him, and actually capture the teens in the act of breaking in, and had them arrested.[/QUOTE]
-911, what's your emergency?
-Yeah, I'm expecting that my house will be broken in, can you send some officers to come and wait with me?
[QUOTE=seano12;44707242]Not all of them were reported, not to mention the police cannot be there to watch over your home 24/7. This is why neighborhood watch groups are formed.
Pardon me if I am ill-informed, but is that even legal?[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. It's offering bait and they took it, the same thing happens with undercover drug deals and such. Anyone that says it is entrapment is really ill informed because they didn't FORCE the person to commit the crime, they just set up a situation where they had the CHOICE to commit a crime. They would be committing the crime by their own power, thus, the cops can arrest them for it.
[QUOTE=seano12;44707242]
Pardon me if I am ill-informed, but is that even legal? I doubt many police departments would comply with such an act as it could possibly be a waste of time and resources.[/QUOTE]
If the man informs the local Department that this has occured roughly 30 times, and he has a plan to catch the culprits in the act, he can request for officers to either patrol or join him in the ambush to capture them.
Citizen's Arrest depend on local laws and statures, but for the most part it's legal. It's why you have "Bounty Hunters" and such doing non-deadly arrests on people commiting felonies.
[quote=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest_in_the_United_States]California Penal Code section 837 is a good example of this codification:
837. A private person may arrest another:
For a public offense committed or attempted in his/her presence.
When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence.
When a felony has been in fact committed, and he or she has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Stopper;44707282]-911, what's your emergency?
-Yeah, I'm expecting that my house will be broken in, can you send some officers to come and wait with me?[/QUOTE]
Obviously you would call a non-emergency number.
I forgot to mention the importance of cameras when it comes to catching burglar's in the act. There are many things people can do to thwart off criminals such as placing bars over your windows.
[QUOTE=Stopper;44707282]-911, what's your emergency?
-Yeah, I'm expecting that my house will be broken in, can you send some officers to come and wait with me?[/QUOTE]
It's legal and it's a request for officers to deal with illegal activity so...
[QUOTE=draugur;44707290]Yes it is. It's offering bait and they took it, the same thing happens with undercover drug deals and such. Anyone that says it is entrapment is really ill informed because they didn't FORCE the person to commit the crime, they just set up a situation where they had the CHOICE to commit a crime. They would be committing the crime by their own power, thus, the cops can arrest them for it.[/QUOTE]
yeah, 'entrapment' would be like if they set up a drug bust, and their planted dealer harasses a person into buying something, instead of just waiting for them to do it themselves.
however this is a different situation. his claim of self defense is a bit null if he blatantly set the situation up so nobody would know he was even there. Nobody was actively out to cause him physical harm, so besides ~castle law~ he was in in the wrong to take the first move, especially so due to it being an ambush
Ok, so they he shot them once, and then they were incapacitated.
And then he fucking killed them in cold blood.
Listening to the audio gave me chills.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;44706400]Probably because you're completely ignorant as to how the castle doctrine, and our criminal justice system in general, works.[/QUOTE]
Just one of thousands of issues with the U.S.
Teenagers get killed doing something stupid somewhere they know they shouldn't have been. Guess what? They'd be alive if they weren't breaking into people's houses. Their "youth" is not an excuse, they were 17 and 18 years old, which if you can vote and join the military, you know full well how fucking stupid it is to break into someone's house.
Doesn't matter to me that this guy waited for intruders he knew were coming, whether he's guilty or not of a crime, I feel no sympathy for these teenagers. I feel sorry for their families but the teens themselves died from the exact scenario that prevents anyone with any sense from breaking into another person's house.
Also... gunshots in the basement? I'm fucking out of there, I'm not checking on you when I know you didn't bring a gun. Where was any common sense, stop relying on the kindness of others because some people have none to give.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44707555]Teenagers get killed doing something stupid somewhere they know they shouldn't have been. Guess what? They'd be alive if they weren't breaking into people's houses. Their "youth" is not an excuse, they were 17 and 18 years old, which if you can vote and join the military, you know full well how fucking stupid it is to break into someone's house.
Doesn't matter to me that this guy waited for intruders he knew were coming, whether he's guilty or not of a crime, I feel no remorse for these teenagers. I feel sorry for their families but the teens themselves died from the exact scenario that prevents anyone with any sense from breaking into another person's house.
Also... gunshots in the basement? I'm fucking out of there, I'm not checking on you when I know you didn't bring a gun. Where was any common sense, stop relying on the kindness of others because some people have none to give.[/QUOTE]
So you're saying breaking into somebody's house warrants the death penalty?
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44707555]
Doesn't matter to me that this guy waited for intruders he knew were coming[/QUOTE]
Well thats not really whats so outrageous about these murders.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44706344]fp is hilarious honestly
constantly going off about how if you knock down my door and come in my house i won't hesitate to shoot you in the chest and kill you and i'd be morally and legally in the right to do so
this guy does the same thing, and somehow people are trying to justify castle doctrine whilst decrying someone who used it![/QUOTE]
You know the difference, dont act dumb.
[QUOTE=Scot;44707574]So you're saying breaking into somebody's house warrants the death penalty?[/QUOTE]
Lol! Is that what you think? No, but I know how strongly people in America feel about their property and guns, and I wouldn't dare break into someone's house knowing how many of my own neighbors own guns.
Teens died because of their own actions.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44707599]Lol! Is that what you think? No, but I know how strongly people in America feel about their property and guns, and I wouldn't dare break into someone's house knowing how many of my own neighbors own guns.
Teens died because of their own actions.[/QUOTE]
being murdered by a nutcase wasnt their own actions
"bitch"
[editline]2nd May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Scot;44707607]being murdered by a nutcase wasnt their own actions[/QUOTE]
breaking into a nutcase's house was lmao
[QUOTE=Scot;44707607]being murdered by a nutcase wasnt their own actions[/QUOTE]
Oh yes it was. They would not have died if they had not broken into his house.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44707620]Oh yes it was. They would not have died if they had not broken into his house.[/QUOTE]
Uhh, no, they would have not died had this fucking mentally ill person not owned guns and actually sought help through the PROPER channels of the justice system. Are you really this incompetent or playing devil's avocado?
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44707555]Teenagers get killed doing something stupid somewhere they know they shouldn't have been. Guess what? They'd be alive if they weren't breaking into people's houses. Their "youth" is not an excuse, they were 17 and 18 years old, which if you can vote and join the military, you know full well how fucking stupid it is to break into someone's house.
Doesn't matter to me that this guy waited for intruders he knew were coming, whether he's guilty or not of a crime, I feel no sympathy for these teenagers. I feel sorry for their families but the teens themselves died from the exact scenario that prevents anyone with any sense from breaking into another person's house.
Also... gunshots in the basement? I'm fucking out of there, I'm not checking on you when I know you didn't bring a gun. Where was any common sense, stop relying on the kindness of others because some people have none to give.[/QUOTE]
Yes because premeditated murder is a justified response to breaking and entering.
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