Horrifying Audio of Man Killing Unarmed Teens Released By Court
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1. People keep pointing out that they're "kids" or "teens" like breaking into peoples houses is normal for youth. I don't see how their age makes a difference if they're realistically capable of physically harming someone.
2. NO SHIT, executing people is UNFORGIVABLE. But when you live where PEOPLE HAVE GUNS IN THEIR HOUSE, you shouldn't break into houses. Anyone with a fucking brain should understand, right?
Point is I cannot muster up any sympathy for anyone in this situation. People getting shot shouldn't have been out COMMITTING CRIME, and guy in the house shouldn't have been EXECUTING criminals.
That audio recording has to be one of the creepiest things I have heard in the longest time.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44706109]They broke into his house over 30 times. Instead of calling the police he killed them one after the other in his basement. This wasn't self defense, it was pure and simple murder.[/QUOTE]
No, they broke into his home, it doesn't matter if he knew they would do it, they still broke into his home. If he caught them the first time, they would still be dead. None the less, he still killed them needlessly. It would be better he had called the police, and not exicute them.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;44709683]No, they broke into his home, it doesn't matter if he knew they would do it, they still broke into his home. If he caught them the first time, they would still be dead.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, I'm not in support of the teens killed here. However, I find that the man that killed them is a far greater monster who [I]lured them to their deaths [/I]out of paranoia. He planned their murders. They were stupid for breaking into his house, but god damn he lured them in just so he could fucking murder them.
Here is how it is.
The kids are dumb for wanting to break into a house. That was their mistake. Had they not done that, they'd be alive today. Fact is, that is not the case.
This man however is a sadistic fuck. Whether he planned it or not, he definitely enjoyed it. He was clearly waiting for an excuse to do it and no one can deny that fact. There is just too much evidence that proves this man is clearly unstable. He didn't kill armed robbers, he executed thieving teenagers.
Both are in the wrong and now both have had their fates dealt.
as far as im concerned anyone whos saying the kids deserved what they got is as fucked in the head as this guy
It's okay to defend yourself from intruders with full force, and is expected, since you never know their intentions.
Luring them into a trap to make them suffer, then execute them like some angel of death, is simply murder.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;44709836]as far as im concerned anyone whos saying the kids deserved what they got is as fucked in the head as this guy[/QUOTE]
saying the kids deserved death is fucking stupid but acting like they didn't sort of have it coming by BREAKING INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE is just as stupid, especially in a country where weapon possession is legal
(pls don't crucify me for thinking that he overdid his vigilante bullshit, yet his reaction to being home invaded was okay in concept (defend himself, bait breaking-and-enteres) however executing them was obviously wrong and fucked)
Should be like this, first warning shots then incapacitation, if you sense that your life is still in danger after incapacitating him/her, then it's okay to shoot for the kill.
Killing should be avoided at all cost, they can be rehabilitated!
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44709881]Should be like this, first warning shots then incapacitation[/QUOTE]
"Warning shots" can go through a wall and kill an innocent person on the other side.
"Incapacitate" is impossible with a firearm. Shoot them in the legs, cut an artery. Shoot them in the lower body, rip their liver apart. Shoot them in the arms...how are you going to hit that?
"Use a taser!" People don't always get stopped by tasers. If someone's determined enough, they will continue after you.
If they have the gall to break into your home, it is within your best interest to deliver lethal force, however regrettable and last-ditch it may seem.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44709881]Should be like this, first warning shots then incapacitation, if you sense that your life is still in danger after incapacitating him/her, then it's okay to shoot for the kill.
Killing should be avoided at all cost, they can be rehabilitated![/QUOTE][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spvI-95Goe0[/media]
Never shoot someone unless you intend to kill them.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44709895]"Warning shots" can go through a wall and kill an innocent person on the other side.
"Incapacitate" is impossible with a firearm. Shoot them in the legs, cut an artery. Shoot them in the lower body, rip their liver apart. Shoot them in the arms...how are you going to hit that?
"Use a taser!" People don't always get stopped by tasers. If someone's determined enough, they will continue after you.
If they have the gall to break into your home, it is within your best interest to deliver lethal force, however regrettable and last-ditch it may seem.[/QUOTE]
Those are all excuses, the odds of you getting kills with warning shots are very low.
So it's far better than going for the kill right away.
Is it so hard to shoot yell "get the fuck out/down, or I will kill you"? this will likely deter the intruder
and avoid any unnecessary killing, the only 2 reasons for why you're justifying this are probably mostly because of your right to bear guns, and the other being your own safety.
Killing should be avoided at all cost.
this man deserves to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital in a padded cell where he can't hurt anyone
I'm totally for defending one's home and the Castle Doctrine but executing people when they're no longer a threat is really disgusting. This guy sounds like he's hunting animals or something, I hope he rots.
Also listening to that girl utter "I'm sorry" as she's being repeatedly shot and excuted is really heartbreaking. I'm physically disgusted.
Gotta love how people are so against the man, they literally ignore the kids. "THEY WERE KILLED, THEREFORE THEIR ROBBING WAS JUSTIFIED IN THEIR DEATH" Come on guys, they broke in 30 times. Why can't we just accept that both sides are bad. We can't just look at it like "oh well they're dead now, i don't care if they were robbers. The man is crazy yada yada yada" They're both bad. They don't deserve death but they took that risk breaking into someones house.
[QUOTE=Episode;44710023]Gotta love how people are so against the man, they literally ignore the kids. "THEY WERE KILLED, THEREFORE THEIR ROBBING WAS JUSTIFIED IN THEIR DEATH" Come on guys, they broke in 30 times. Why can't we just accept that both sides are bad. We can't just look at it like "oh well they're dead now, i don't care if they were robbers. The man is crazy yada yada yada" They're both bad. They don't deserve death but they took that risk breaking into someones house.[/QUOTE]
I think executing two people is a bit worse than breaking and entering. Call me crazy.
I know for a fact you can call the police when you have a problem with breaking and entering and they will literally stop at your house every few hours and sit in your driveway/road for a bit and make sure everthing is okay (atleast around where I live). That would have probably scared these kids off, if not he had more than enough time to call the police while his home was being broken into. But no, he sat in wait and straight up executed them for their crimes.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;44710052]I think executing two people is a bit worse than breaking and entering. Call me crazy.
I know for a fact you can call the police when you have a problem with breaking and entering and they will literally stop at your house every few hours and sit in your driveway/road for a bit and make sure everthing is okay (atleast around where I live). That would have probably scared these kids off, if not he had more than enough time to call the police while his home was being broken into. But no, he sat in wait and straight up executed them for their crimes.[/QUOTE] Well it is, but you can't use that as an excuse to ignore the crimes of the kids and act like they were two extremely innocent children. They're fully grown people who know right from wrong and they chose wrong.
[QUOTE=Episode;44710023]Gotta love how people are so against the man, they literally ignore the kids. "THEY WERE KILLED, THEREFORE THEIR ROBBING WAS JUSTIFIED IN THEIR DEATH"[/QUOTE]
who "literally" said that
who even said anything like that
nobody is who
The fact that he knew those kids personally and could have always called authorities on them completely nullifies the whole "They knew what they were getting into" nonsense. The fact that he could have just scared them off by even turning on lights when they came about, and even knew that they would be coming, is just terrifying and obvious proof of murder.
[editline]3rd May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Episode;44710106]Well it is, but you can't use that as an excuse to ignore the crimes of the kids and act like they were two extremely innocent children. They're fully grown people who know right from wrong and they chose wrong.[/QUOTE]
Breaking into someone's home should be a few months to few years of jail time depending on damage caused (especially with no intent to harm). Not an execution.
[QUOTE=Episode;44710106]Well it is, but you can't use that as an excuse to ignore the crimes of the kids and act like they were two extremely innocent children. They're fully grown people who know right from wrong and they chose wrong.[/QUOTE]
And I accept that but I don't think them being executed was justified even though they knew the danger they were taking.
Like if he had just shot them and then called the police I'd have no problem with this. I'm totally for just straight up shooting an intruder so that you can ensure your family's safety but executing people for [i]anything[/i] is a big no-no in my book.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44709920]Those are all excuses, the odds of you getting kills with warning shots are very low.
So it's far better than going for the kill right away.
Is it so hard to shoot yell "get the fuck out/down, or I will kill you"? this will likely deter the intruder
and avoid any unnecessary killing, the only 2 reasons for why you're justifying this are probably mostly because of your right to bear guns, and the other being your own safety.
Killing should be avoided at all cost.[/QUOTE]
Killing should be avoided at all cost. That's the 1st step you take.
If it comes to shooting though, you shoot to kill.
I tried to listen to it. That's just too much, I can't finish it. Serious question, what purpose does releasing the audio serve? It couldn't really shift the case one way or another, or could it?
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;44710273]I tried to listen to it. That's just too much, I can't finish it. Serious question, what purpose does releasing the audio serve? It couldn't really shift the case one way or another, or could it?[/QUOTE]
Not really since there's already been a verdict.
i can understand killing people needlessly, but dragging them off the carpet? why not let them leave blood stains to warn off any future trespassers?
[QUOTE=Falubii;44710301]Not really since there's already been a verdict.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, so I guess it's just a 'let the public know' sort of thing?
[editline]3rd May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=abcpea;44710328]i can understand killing people needlessly, but dragging them off the carpet? why not let them leave blood stains to warn off any future trespassers?[/QUOTE]
Hilarious, epic zinger.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44709920]Those are all excuses, the odds of you getting kills with warning shots are very low.
So it's far better than going for the kill right away.
Is it so hard to shoot yell "get the fuck out/down, or I will kill you"? this will likely deter the intruder
and avoid any unnecessary killing, the only 2 reasons for why you're justifying this are probably mostly because of your right to bear guns, and the other being your own safety.
Killing should be avoided at all cost.[/QUOTE]
How's the fact that warning shots are often illegal, and can land you in worse trouble than just shooting someone for an excuse?
One hand, I can totally justify shooting someone who breaks into my home. I have no idea what they want, or if they are going to hurt me or my family.
On the other hand, setting it up so that you can catch and kill them in the act is totally fucked up. They shouldn't have been breaking into his fucking home in the first place, but he shouldn't have executed them.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44710171]Killing should be avoided at all cost. That's the 1st step you take.
If it comes to shooting though, you shoot to kill.[/QUOTE]
Uh, that only applies if you're a police officer, and under enough of a potential threat.
Planned murder give him the chair.
[QUOTE=Episode;44710023]Gotta love how people are so against the man, they literally ignore the kids. "THEY WERE KILLED, THEREFORE THEIR ROBBING WAS JUSTIFIED IN THEIR DEATH" Come on guys, they broke in 30 times. Why can't we just accept that both sides are bad. We can't just look at it like "oh well they're dead now, i don't care if they were robbers. The man is crazy yada yada yada" They're both bad. They don't deserve death but they took that risk breaking into someones house.[/QUOTE]
Hell, they risked dieing first time when they broke in. Breaking 30 times? I think those kids just deserved what was coming at them.
It's like jumping in front of same car with same driver 30 times. He will eventually just press the gas and drive you over, it was your fault anyway for you being on a road.
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