Father vows revenge on murderer who killed his son in 1975
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[QUOTE=Contag;28538700]That said, if I was the father I'd want to torture the fucking cunt for months on end.
Which is why I said the victim shouldn't be responsible for the punishment.[/QUOTE]
Then every rape/murder/kidnapping victim would want the punishment to be execution. It's human nature.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;28538733]I can agree with trying to rehabilitate anyone who didn't murder and eat a child instead of executing them, but when someone does do that things get a little bit harder to decide on.
Oh well nothing I can do about it, bedtime.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it gets much harder, but you still have to do it.
What's the point in imprisoning someone for life if they're not rational and capable of fully understanding why they're being punished? It's just a waste of money then.
[editline]11th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=supersnail11;28538738]Then every rape/murder/kidnapping victim would want the punishment to be execution. It's human nature.[/QUOTE]
Precisely.
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[editline]10th March 2011[/editline]
i'm no law expert but i'm pretty sure murder is murder regardless of who you kill.
[editline]10th March 2011[/editline]
well first i'd be luck "fuck i want to kill guy"
then after my emotions calmed down i would realize i'm not a person who's capable of murder unlike yourself.[/QUOTE]
Good job assuming I'd be "able to murder this guy".
I didn't say anything about murdering him, I was quoting Zeke who was bashing him for making the claim of killing him, saying that he's a dumbass.
You also just "don't get over" your son dying, that shit stays with you for life.
[QUOTE=Explosions;28538616]Stop using ad hominem arguments.[/QUOTE]
He's obviously trollin'.
[editline]10th March 2011[/editline]
Some people can be rehabilitated, and some people can't be fixed. Someone who murdered and then ate a kid is, I think it's safe to say, too far gone for help. A bullet costs less than a dollar.
i saw this on the news
apparently he kept the kids bones as a necklace or something, he's fucking whack and needs to get killed
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[QUOTE=Psychokitten;28536136]The law is there to be upheld.
It may not be convenient, it may not be pleasant, but it must be upheld.
If you think "but my case is special, I have the right to break it!", then, by your logic, so does everyone else.
Obey the law. We may not like it, but we have to do it.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes a "crime" is worth the time.
I support this guy and I hope he finds and brutally murders this guy. Maybe eat him. With BBQ sauce.
Eye for an eye, simple as that.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;28521434]Thing is, would killing his son's murderer really take away the pain?[/QUOTE]
one way to find out :v:
I absolutely HATE the fact that murderers never get punished properly. If I had my way, I would let the victim's family decide what to do with the criminal, even if it meant they got to torture them.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;28544973]I absolutely HATE the fact that murderers never get punished properly. If I had my way, I would let the victim's family decide what to do with the criminal, even if it meant they got to torture them.[/QUOTE]
What happens if they're innocent?
[QUOTE=Contag;28544983]What happens if they're innocent?[/QUOTE]
Well obviously they make 100% sure they are not with evidence and a thorough investigation.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;28545034]Well obviously they make 100% sure they are not with evidence and a thorough investigation.[/QUOTE]
It's still not 100%.
That's why the death penalty takes decades. And even then, it's not flawless.
Fighting fire with fire, I see. How barbaric.
[QUOTE=Contag;28545049]It's still not 100%.
That's why the death penalty takes decades. And even then, it's not flawless.
Fighting fire with fire, I see. How barbaric.[/QUOTE]
So we should just sentence them to 50 years but let them out in 5 if they are good so they can rape/murder/etc again?
Yeah, clever.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;28545067]So we should just sentence them to 50 years but let them out in 5 if they are good so they can rape/murder/etc again?
Yeah, clever.[/QUOTE]
No, we send them to Australia!
[QUOTE=Contag;28545111]No, we send them to Australia![/QUOTE]
In the past, in case you missed it, Oz is a flourishing country now...
:doh:
[QUOTE=archangel125;28538985]He's obviously trollin'.
[editline]10th March 2011[/editline]
Some people can be rehabilitated, and some people can't be fixed. Someone who murdered and then ate a kid is, I think it's safe to say, too far gone for help. A bullet costs less than a dollar.[/QUOTE]
did all of facepunch get downs or something. we've already gone over this whole "bullets are cheap" argument is fucking terrible because the execution itself is not what's expensive, it's the court proceedings.
[editline]11th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;28538955]Good job assuming I'd be "able to murder this guy".
I didn't say anything about murdering him, I was quoting Zeke who was bashing him for making the claim of killing him, saying that he's a dumbass.
You also just "don't get over" your son dying, that shit stays with you for life.[/QUOTE]
by "get over" i meant "coming down from the adrenaline high" that one would get with such news. i for one acknowledge the justice system.
once again you were appealing to emotions, i'm sure he understands the man's anger, as do i, but making threats to kill someone is still kinda bad.
To be 100% honest, I don't think anyone should be here to criticize him for what he's saying though.
No one can understand what he's going through, and I think he needs to let those emotions out he has obviously bottled up.
It's not "an adrenaline high" when your son dies. My grandma died and I still miss her and it's been eight years, but she wasn't murdered/eaten/hidden for seven years.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;28521601]'Cus it's draconian to pre-emptively arrest and charge without any real evidence they are going to commit a crime.[/QUOTE]
so if a kid says to 5 different people "i'm gonna go shoot up this school" and then proceeds to acquire a gun, should he not be investigated and arrested?
Columbine coulda been stopped had the threats been taken seriously
[QUOTE=JerryK;28551473]so if a kid says to 5 different people "i'm gonna go shoot up this school" and then proceeds to acquire a gun, should he not be investigated and arrested?
Columbine coulda been stopped had the threats been taken seriously[/QUOTE]
No that's exactly what should happen and exactly what he's arguing for you moron. You investigate, see if there's any actual evidence, and if there is, then you do something. Hell, it's a crime as it is to make threats like that, or at least something that would deserve looking into.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;28551093]To be 100% honest, I don't think anyone should be here to criticize him for what he's saying though.
No one can understand what he's going through, and I think he needs to let those emotions out he has obviously bottled up.
It's not "an adrenaline high" when your son dies. My grandma died and I still miss her and it's been eight years, but she wasn't murdered/eaten/hidden for seven years.[/QUOTE]
i'm not criticizing him, i'm saying that making death threats, especially making them public to the news, is a bad idea no matter who it's targeting.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;28521406]A smart man with any intention to actually go through with his plans wouldn't publicly announce them.[/QUOTE]
or he's just that baddass he'd do it anyway and with style.
[QUOTE=MrParalegal;28544555]Eye for an eye, simple as that.[/QUOTE]
i was under the impression that first world countries were above that kind of petty shit
I'd feel the same way if it was my child. That would be true with 95% of you here.
[QUOTE=Last or First;28521839]I don't support killing the guy, but, for the sake of it:
The neighbor killed (and possibly [i]ate[/i]) a five year old child.
The father would be killing someone who killed his five year old child.
He would not be stooping as low as the murderer by killing him.
Still wrong? Yes.
But as bad as the murderer? Fuck no.[/QUOTE]
I find it perfectly justified.
after all the guy killed (and possibly [i]ate[/i]) a five year old child, amirite? Yeah, [B][I][U]KILL[/U][/I][/B] the bastard.
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;28554990]I'd feel the same way if it was my child. That would be true with 95% of you here.[/QUOTE]
If you choose to live in a society where the laws are legislated by a governing body of elected representatives and justice is maintained through these laws, then you don't step outside of them to gain gratification. If he feels society isn't doing a good enough job with criminals then he shouldn't be part of that society.
Obviously it's an absolutely horrible case, but really you can't go exacting revenge thinking your case is special or the rule of law wouldn't be able to be maintained.
I don't see how anybody short of Jesus II would be able to keep themselves from fantasizing about murdering the guy that kidnapped, maybe raped, and probably ate your five-year-old son. It's a little sick that people say it's a bad thing that you've got a strong sense of justice when you think like that.
[QUOTE=Android phone;28556561]I don't see how anybody short of Jesus II would be able to keep themselves from fantasizing about murdering the guy that kidnapped, maybe raped, and probably ate your five-year-old son. It's a little sick that people say it's a bad thing that you've got a strong sense of justice when you think like that.[/QUOTE]
Because our societies are run on the laws that we've been dealt by those we've elected. If everyone was to step outside the law to suit their own moral compass then we'd be in a pretty fucked society. This is a shocking event but why should he get special treatment?
[QUOTE=Android phone;28556561]I don't see how anybody short of Jesus II would be able to keep themselves from fantasizing about murdering the guy that kidnapped, maybe raped, and probably ate your five-year-old son. It's a little sick that people say it's a bad thing that you've got a strong sense of justice when you think like that.[/QUOTE]
Having those feelings are fine, in fact I'd be concerned about his mental health if he didn't have them. But acting on those emotions are not OK and only causes more suffering to everyone related to him.
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;28554990]I'd feel the same way if it was my child. That would be true with 95% of you here.[/QUOTE]
well yeah that pretty much goes without saying, but that's the reason we don't let the victims decide the punishments.
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