UK - Muslims severely beat two men for being black & not Muslim
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[QUOTE=Mabus;45295017]Actually some of the more hardline elements of religious groups prefer the woman to have as many children as they can and not have much of a independent life outside of caring for the children, this can be a cultural thing too and not exclusive to the Islamic faith.[/QUOTE]
Well, there is the cultural thing in many undeveloped countries of having lots of children, but a large of chunk of that is because they are seen as a way of helping provide for the family as a whole and as security in your old age.
Not to say that some of it isn't because of religion as well, because it certainly is, but there are other causes as well. Which also makes me question how long Islamic people in the UK would have a higher birthrate anyway - as they achieve a better level of education, wealth and become more culturally assimilated than their parents and grandparents, their perceived need or want for larger families is going to be greatly reduced.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;45294912]How is having 4+ children a sign of poverty or poor social standing or that they're a thread to your day-to-day life or anything like that
A lot of muslim couples are like a lot of christian couples, they don't use contraception at all but they still bang just as much as any other couple so they just produce a ton of babies
It's not like they're hardwired to take over your precious serbian values. They're muslims not terminators.[/QUOTE]
What else do poor and uneducated people do except breed like hell? At least that's how things go around here, it's not same having a lot of children in a first world country and having a lot of children in developing or poor country.
Oh and shit will hit the fan soon enough here. Just as I said several times before that next stop for shitstorm is western Macedonia, there have been massive protests and ethnic violence in Macedonia in these past few days, tho I can't be bothered to discuss this with FP so we'll not go there. I'll just say that anything more than moderate and secular Islam is not suitable and cannot adapt into western world, regardless of you liking that fact or not. There are few exceptions, but the point still stands. Most of the muslims that immigrate just make ghettos instead of adapting.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;45295120]What else do poor and uneducated people do except breed like hell? At least that's how things go around here, it's not same having a lot of children in a first world country and having a lot of children in developing or poor country.
Oh and shit will hit the fan soon enough here. Just as I said several times before that next stop for shitstorm is western Macedonia, there have been massive protests and ethnic violence in Macedonia in these past few days, tho I can't be bothered to discuss this with FP so we'll not go there. I'll just say that anything more than moderate and secular Islam is not suitable and cannot adapt into western world, regardless of you liking that fact or not. There are few exceptions, but the point still stands. Most of the muslims that immigrate just make ghettos instead of adapting.[/QUOTE]
Because poor people tend to have a lot of kids doesn't mean everyone who has a lot of kids is poor.
"Secular islam" is an oxymoron and it also makes no sense from any perspective because "Islam" is not a government, so it can't even be secular to begin with.
"Anything more than moderate [INSERT IDEOLOGY HERE] is not suitable" can work with literally everything.
So you're either making shortcuts or you're considering general issues as being exclusive to a certain minority, both of which are terrible opinions to have.
[QUOTE=Mabus;45295107]It's not in the slightest, I think the point is you shouldn't be an apologist for these men simply because they are a minority. Weather you choose to see it or not men like these exist and are becoming worryingly more vocal and visible.[/QUOTE]
who is being an apologist for them? cairn tremor was literally saying muslims are going to overpopulate the UK and vote in an extremist government. that's just ignorant paranoia and you're a moron if you think that.
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DAE SAME PERSON?
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DAE SAME PERSON?[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, is that Aziz Ansari?
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DAE SAME PERSON?[/QUOTE]
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How can he be muslim if beards aren't real?
The UK's official response, "We totally do not like what you guys are doing but since we're a bunch of ball-less bitches to act accordingly, we'll say, 'so sorry about this'"
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How can he be muslim if beards aren't real?[/QUOTE]
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Holy shit, it's Jimi Hendrix!
[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;45294553]Oh no, most of them are not a threat. However, it won't stop them from over-populating the UK and becoming the mass majority of citizens living here. That's a threat to our culture and people if you ask me, regardless of extremists or not.[/QUOTE]
i really don't understand the mindset where you're afraid that your culture is "in danger."
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45295855]i really don't understand the mindset where you're afraid that your culture is "in danger."[/QUOTE]
Those in a privileged majority tend to cling tightly to the status quo when it is threatened.
[QUOTE=Levithan;45295897]Those in a privileged majority tend to cling tightly to the status quo when it is threatened.[/QUOTE]As if unprivileged minority doesn't? Not sure what you're trying to say.
[QUOTE=Noss;45294718]Arguing with a racist is like arguing with a brick wall - except you'd probably get better results from the brick wall.
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muslims aren't the fucking borg[/QUOTE]
We are the Kebabs. Lower your borders and surrender your rights. We will add our religious and cultural distinctiveness to your own. Your country will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;45294981]People who are on lower incomes do tend to have more children, but that's a side effect of having poor access to education as a result of lacking wealth, and it's not something you can pin on any particular racial or religious group.[/QUOTE]
This is the irony for racists. If the mainstream would accept, and integrate, the minority communities as soon as possible, the minority community would quickly become assimilated= no problem with cultural clashes.
Instead, racists do their best to keep the minorities separate, excluding them at every opportunity. All this does is create subcultures of the excluded minority groups, subcultures that may be at odds with the mainstream. Thus the racists are the ones creating the problem.
Things change, including populations. Just because some race has been a majority for a thousand years does not guarantee they will continue to be a majority. Planning for change is more productive than fighting against change in my experience.
[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;45294553]That's a threat to our culture and people if you ask me, regardless of extremists or not.[/QUOTE]
oh no our culture of european beer and shit turkish and asian food is under threat from arab people wow what a travesty
[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;45294553]Oh no, most of them are not a threat. However, it won't stop them from over-populating the UK and becoming the mass majority of citizens living here. That's a threat to our culture and people if you ask me, regardless of extremists or not.[/QUOTE]
I say this very hesitantly, mostly because I'm afraid someone will show me something much worse, however..
I feel like this is the most racist post of the year. Congrats, really.
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there's a reason a lot of people pride fist world countries, especially America, in being a melting pot of cultures and backgrounds.
lol if you seriously believe ~5% of the population is threatening British culture.
[QUOTE=Paige;45296329]I feel like this is the most racist post of the year. Congrats, really[/QUOTE]
it's that scary type of racism where people try to hide their bigotry under some sort of logic and appeasement
like "oh no i don't hate ALL muslims. i know MOST muslims are really nice but i still feel we should be legitimately scared of their plans to breed and take over the world"
it's like people apply an insectoid hivemind mentality to, you know, humans
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;45293801]Pictured: not Muslims.
e: I don't really see how this is dumb. If you call yourself a Muslim then beat people to death for not being Muslims you aren't really a Muslim.[/QUOTE]
No true Scotsman etc. etc.
[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;45294507]The UK will, if not stopped, be a big part of Islam and possibly one day in the far future use Sharia law.[/QUOTE]
This is literally the same mindset racist Australians use when a new fucking mosque wants to be built
Literally the most stupidest mindset in history, wake up.
How far British culture has fallen
There was a time when you guys subjugated indigenous peoples all around the world, now your culture will shrivel up and die because brown people got too close. Vote BNP, bubblewrap Britain for a secure future
Why the hell is it that there's all this Muslim stuff going on in the UK in the past year?
[QUOTE=BlueAndGray;45296686]Why the hell is it that there's all this Muslim stuff going on in the UK in the past year?[/QUOTE]
Know how violent crimes in the US have increased lately?
Wait, they haven't, the media reports on it more.
The OP's source is the Daily Mail. They do this exact shit, just only with minorities committing crimes instead of crimes in general.
That's odd, if these men are from the middle east then they are technically closer to being considered "black" in terms of genetics than any other ethnicity. And yet they beat up someone for being black? That's like beating up a fellow neighbor just because he is my neighbor.
[QUOTE=Nigel_Farage;45294365]Shaving is forbidden for Muslims so if they're the type to beat people for not being Muslim they're probably the type to get pissed off when their beards are forcibly removed by infidel white people[/QUOTE]
Where the heck did you hear that crock of shit?
[QUOTE=ExplosiveCheese;45296734]That's odd, if these men are from the middle east then they are technically closer to being considered "black" in terms of genetics than any other ethnicity. And yet they beat up someone for being black? That's like beating up a fellow neighbor just because he is my neighbor.[/QUOTE]
that sounds like their motivation
i.e. white people have an excuse for not being muslim
[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;45294507]The UK will, if not stopped, be a big part of Islam and possibly one day in the far future use Sharia law.[/QUOTE]
If you halt immigration, the seeds have been sowed anyway. You'd have to kick current citizens out, which is an inhumane thing to do.
I'd be more worried about the totalitarian police state that your country is becoming. It's far more likely for the UK to go like Orwell's book instead of Mohammed's.
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[QUOTE=ExplosiveCheese;45296734]That's like beating up a fellow neighbor just because he is my neighbor.[/QUOTE]
Like it should matter how far away a human lives from you. Should treat them just as well no matter.
I'm using your geographic distance instead of genetic distance analogy...
And another thing, almost all races have a history of racism. Including the massive Arab enslavement of Negros over the last few centuries.
[QUOTE=Matrix374;45297198]Where the heck did you hear that crock of shit?[/QUOTE]
He's probably thinking of Sikhs, who are obligated not to cut their hair.
[QUOTE=Matrix374;45297198]Where the heck did you hear that crock of shit?[/QUOTE]
There are a number of Hadiths that report Muhammed as saying things such as:
[QUOTE](4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow)."
- Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498[/QUOTE]
Which is exactly what those guys have done - it isn't just a Sikh thing
[QUOTE=butt2089;45297726]There are a number of Hadiths that report Muhammed as saying things such as:
Which is exactly what those guys have done - it isn't just a Sikh thing[/QUOTE]
I just meant that Sikhs are obligated to do it, some Muslims still choose to. Because this was in response to someone claiming that shaving is 'forbidden' for Muslims.
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