• Teen Girls Charged with Cruelty for Vine of 8 month old Kitten Being Microwaved
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[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175684]If you put a cat on a stove and turned the stove on, there'd be burns on the cat! There's literally nothing to suggest that the cat was actually microwaved. This is like looking at a scene in a film where someone kicks the dog and calling for the actor to be arrested.[/QUOTE] Except for the fact that the cat was in the microwave and the microwave was on.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175684]If you put a cat on a stove and turned the stove on, there'd be burns on the cat! There's literally nothing to suggest that the cat was actually microwaved. This is like looking at a scene in a film where someone kicks the dog and calling for the actor to be arrested.[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean saying "it wouldn't have hurt the cat" is correct. If the cat was microwaved, it [b]would[/b] have been hurt. There's a reason we don't have microwaves instead of heaters and fireplaces. Tl;dr give up you can't win
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175684]If you put a cat on a stove and turned the stove on, there'd be burns on the cat! There's literally nothing to suggest that the cat was actually microwaved. This is like looking at a scene in a film where someone kicks the dog and calling for the actor to be arrested.[/QUOTE] Except you know the light being on while the door was closed and them opening and a fucking kitten coming out. The light in a microwave is generally only on when the door is open or the microwave is on FYI. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] Even if it wasn't, putting the kitten in that small ass box is cruel in itself.
Rate dumb if dumb, not positive how a microwave works, but I'm pretty sure its more to it then just heating up considering foil sparks. I would think any amount of exposure to 2.5 gigahertz of radio waves might cause harm to its small little brain, plus by the end of that video you can sort of tell the cat looks distressed. But again, I'm just guessing, I pulled the 2.5 gigahertz from my friend google and the rest is speculation, no idea if radiowaves actually harm a keitty that small in that short of a period.
These girls were dumbasses. They thought it was a [I]great[/I] idea to brag about it on Twitter, and they got what was coming for them. [quote=the article]The girls — who were not identified, because they are juveniles[/quote] [quote=Wikipedia]Population (2010 United States Census) • City 66,194[/quote] Still hmmm...
Having just rewatched the video in slow motion, yes, I see that the cat was in the microwave while it was on, with plate spinning and light one. However, I still maintain that because of the utter lack of injuries, the cat wasn't actually in it for long enough for it to be worthy of an arrest. Though obviously, there is the possibility that they actually did microwave it for a decent length of time. Which would be bad. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zaex;42175780]Rate dumb if dumb, not positive how a microwave works, but I'm pretty sure its more to it then just heating up considering foil sparks. I would think any amount of exposure to 2.5 gigahertz might cause harm to its small little brain, plus by the end of that video you can sort of tell the cat looks distressed. But again, I'm just guessing, I pulled the 2.5 gigahertz from my friend google and the rest is speculation, no idea if that actually harms a wittle brain that small.[/QUOTE] It looked like it was freaked out by being in a small box with a spinning floor.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175553]The microwaves boil the water inside the food (or kitten), resulting in a nice thorough cooking.[/QUOTE] Any polar compound experiences heating, not just water.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175786]Having just rewatched the video in slow motion, yes, I see that the cat was in the microwave while it was on, with plate spinning and light one. However, I still maintain that because of the utter lack of injuries, the cat wasn't actually in it for long enough for it to be worthy of an arrest. Though obviously, there is the possibility that they actually did microwave it for a decent length of time. Which would be bad. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] It looked like it was freaked out by being in a small box with a spinning floor.[/QUOTE] And where did you get your degree in radiography, genius?
[QUOTE=Flapadar;42175813]And where did you get your degree in radiography, genius?[/QUOTE] Except I flat out stated I wasn't an expert earlier in the thread. But by all means continue to fling shit at me.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175827]Except I flat out stated I wasn't an expert earlier in the thread. But by all means continue to fling shit at me.[/QUOTE] Then stop telling everyone they're wrong and that the cat wouldn't have felt pain from being microwaved.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175357]If the cat isn't hurt, it wasn't cruelty. [/QUOTE] Just the fact that they thought it would be really fucking funny to throw a kitten into a microwave is bad enough.
Oh fuck this. I'm not getting anywhere and I'm tired of reading the same rebuttals over and over again. You win.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175881]Oh fuck this. I'm not getting anywhere and I'm tired of reading the same rebuttals over and over again. You win.[/QUOTE] One more thing, you can see double digits when she puts it in, and when it cuts, its down to 3-2-1. It looked like it was set at 40 and went to 39 before it cut.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175615]They can tolerate temperatures of up to 56 degrees C. Okay. Given that it was not harmed, what makes you think it reached that temperature? Besides; [video=youtube;HCv2AGorRIk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCv2AGorRIk[/video] Watch that video. That is the least convincing thing I've ever seen, there's three jumpcuts, all at important moments. Just after the cat is put in, before the thing is turned on, and before she opens it. I don't believe that it was actually microwaved, because it's fine. If it was microwaved, then they both deserve a massive kick in the arse, but it isn't cruelty, because it wasn't hurt.[/QUOTE] You're a bad example of a British citizen.
Sgt-NiallR, you're a dipshit. Stop trying to justify their actions or make it seem less malicious than it was. If they didn't intend on harming the kitten, they never would've put it in the fucking microwave. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - GunFox))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42174574]Vine has videos of like 7 seconds. Even if the video had been nothing but the cat in the oven, with it on, it wouldn't have harmed the thing. This is fucking stupid, but it isn't cruelty.[/QUOTE] Can i microwave you?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175786]Having just rewatched the video in slow motion, yes, I see that the cat was in the microwave while it was on, with plate spinning and light one. However, I still maintain that because of the utter lack of injuries, the cat wasn't actually in it for long enough for it to be worthy of an arrest. Though obviously, there is the possibility that they actually did microwave it for a decent length of time. Which would be bad. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] It looked like it was freaked out by being in a small box with a spinning floor.[/QUOTE] So if I swing a knife at you but miss, do I get off scot free? After all you didn't get harmed, why should I be arrested?
This story reminds me of the episode of ATHF of when Master shake microwaved Meatwads kitten. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyHo5TYyiQc[/media]
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175881]Oh fuck this. I'm not getting anywhere and I'm tired of reading the same rebuttals over and over again. You win.[/QUOTE] You're not winning because you're not thinking. First of all the video wasn't 7 seconds. That's Vine's allotted time for uploads but you can cut videos. How do you know that cat wasn't in there longer? Secondly, microwaves send... well microwaves in order to get the molecules in food (in this case cat) to speed up and vibrate rapidly causing the water molecules in food to get hotter and cook. Microwave ovens have high levels of microwaves which, in humans, could lead to intense burning. It's especially sensitive on eyes. Do imagine a poor newborn kitten.
The cat is fine. It clearly wasn't in the microwave while it was on for very long, if at all. If they can prove actual damage to the cat, then convict. If there is no evidence of actual harm then you have to let them go. The thought of someone microwaving a cat makes me angry too, but we don't even have evidence that it actually happened. Cool your jets.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42177200] The thought of someone microwaving a cat makes me angry too, but we don't even have evidence that it actually happened. Cool your jets.[/QUOTE] Apart from the video we just saw?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175881]Oh fuck this. I'm not getting anywhere and I'm tired of reading the same rebuttals over and over again. You win.[/QUOTE] good. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;42177200]The cat is fine. It clearly wasn't in the microwave while it was on for very long, if at all. If they can prove actual damage to the cat, then convict. If there is no evidence of actual harm then you have to let them go. The thought of someone microwaving a cat makes me angry too, but we don't even have evidence that it actually happened. Cool your jets.[/QUOTE] the fact they shoved a fuckin cat in a microwave that could have been on even momentarily is beyond fucked up and they need mental help
Okay, so forgive the really stupid question, but I've been seeing this a lot recently. I know I can just search it, but I would rather hear from you guys. What the fuck is Vine? Seriously, I have never heard of it before, and then all of a sudden there's just a freaking crashing wall of "Vine this, Vine that" and it's just been pouring and pouring like a fucking dam broke or something. I've gathered it's a video website that (apparently) only allows for 7-seconds-max videos, but why is it so popular? And when did it come into being?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175652]My point was that if it takes 60 seconds to boil water in a cup using a microwave, how why would a kitten experience pain after being in there for about 7 seconds?[/QUOTE] With microwaves you get localised heating. So, the skin would get a lot hotter than tissues deeper inside. Heating tissue is in no way the same as heating water in a container; water in the tissue can start to boil a lot faster than a whole cup of water would. Also, you should have a read: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn[/url] [quote]A case of nerve damage by an exposure to radiation from a malfunctioning 600 watt microwave oven, operated for [B]five seconds[/B] with the door open, with both arms and hands exposed, was reported. During exposure, there was a pulsating, burning sensation in all fingers. Erythema appeared on the back sides of both hands and arms. Four years later, denervation of median nerve, ulnar nerve, and radial nerve in both arms was shown on an electromyography test.[/quote] [quote]On July 29, 1977, H.F., a 51-year-old teacher, was attempting to remove a casserole dish from her new 600-watt microwave oven. The oven signaled the end of the heating cycle, but the light and the cooking blower were on. During retrieval of the dish, she inserted two thirds of her bare forearms into the oven, for a [B]total time of about five seconds[/B]. The oven was still operating. She felt "hot pulsating sensation" and burning in fingers and fingernails and a sensation of "needles" over the exposed areas. Jabbing pain, swelling, and red-orange discoloration of dorsal sides of both hands and forearms appeared shortly afterwards. ... Electromyography discovered denervation in the median nerve, ulnar nerve, and radial nerve on both arms. Severe reduction of number of sweat glands in the finger pulps, in comparison with a random control, was also found.[/quote] tl;dr: microwaves will [I]fuck you up[/I] real fast when given the chance [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] also keep in mind that these cases are with the door open I suppose in terms of mass, a small kitten could be comparable to someone's forearms + hands, but if the door is closed it's a lot more likely that permanent damage would occur even faster than with the door open [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] so yeah even if the cat was in there for a few seconds, it probably felt a lot of pain, and there's a chance of various types of tissue damage, including permanent nerve damage
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;42177904]With microwaves you get localised heating. So, the skin would get a lot hotter than tissues deeper inside. Heating tissue is in no way the same as heating water in a container; water in the tissue can start to boil a lot faster than a whole cup of water would. Also, you should have a read: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn[/url] tl;dr: microwaves will [I]fuck you up[/I] real fast when given the chance [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] also keep in mind that these cases are with the door open I suppose in terms of mass, a small kitten could be comparable to someone's forearms + hands, but if the door is closed it's a lot more likely that permanent damage would occur even faster than with the door open [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] so yeah even if the cat was in there for a few seconds, it probably felt a lot of pain, and there's a chance of various types of tissue damage, including permanent nerve damage[/QUOTE] Well thank you very much for demonstrating I was wrong, rather than flinging shit at me.
So what its just a cat. lol all that happened was she was "charged"(GOOD) I am very glad most of you people do not have jurisdiction over animal abuse. I put cats in microwaves daily and no one ever cared. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Extended" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=flyhard;42180069]So what its just a cat. lol all that happened was she was "charged"(GOOD) I am very glad most of you people do not have jurisdiction over animal abuse. I put cats in microwaves daily and no one ever cared.[/QUOTE] Did you mean to spell "Tryhard" when typing out your username?
We should start charging bears with cruelty when they kill weaker creatures.
They didn't even slaughter and butcher the cat before they put it in From the looks of it they were just going to microwave it without eating it What a bunch of assholes
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42175786]Having just rewatched the video in slow motion, yes, I see that the cat was in the microwave while it was on, with plate spinning and light one. However, I still maintain that because of the utter lack of injuries, the cat wasn't actually in it for long enough for it to be worthy of an arrest. Though obviously, there is the possibility that they actually did microwave it for a decent length of time. Which would be bad. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] It looked like it was freaked out by being in a small box with a spinning floor.[/QUOTE] Christ, dude. Just because there weren't injuries doesn't mean that doing something to this animal that could [I]very easily[/I] cause injuries isn't cruel. By your logic I could do whatever fucking cruel thing I wanted to you without your consent and you wouldn't consider it cruel as long as I didn't actually cause any injury.
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