• Florida Republican leaders drawing up Arizona-styled anti-immigrant legislation
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[QUOTE=The golden;22913277]You support a racist law, thus it is logical to assume that you are also racist. If you were not a racist, you would not support racist things.[/QUOTE] It's merely an opinion that it is racist. You guys think it's racist because it affects illegal people, who just so happen to not be white more often than not.
[QUOTE=Swilly;22913312]BAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hold on...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's like saying you're racist against apples because you like Grannysmith apples but hate Macintosh apples.[/QUOTE] At first I didn't understand what this post was trying to say, but he's right. Being for a law that would only hurt illegal immigrants doesn't make you racist just because they could be hispanic. [editline]07:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=The golden;22913327]I don't think you do, actually.[/QUOTE] Where in the bill does it say "Hispanics can be pulled over at random and be asked for citizenship" Because I don't think it says that at all.
[QUOTE=The golden;22913355]Mmm no actually, I don't. You've missed the point almost entirely.[/QUOTE] Then it's racist because...? [editline]07:21PM[/editline] Oh yeah, because it somehow allows racial profiling, even though it doesn't.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22913368]Then it's racist because...? [editline]07:21PM[/editline] Oh yeah, because it somehow allows racial profiling, even though it doesn't.[/QUOTE] Because white people are always racist...or at least thats what I was taught in school.
No Swilly, it's because whenever one tries to keep Illegal Mexicans out of their country it's racist because they're Mexican
Dear god what has this world come to. When [b]anyone[/b] gets pulled over, they are asked for proof of citizenship. Why shouldn't anyone not have proof of citizenship unless they're illegals.
[QUOTE=Ragy;22913405]Dear god what has this world come to. When [B]anyone[/B] gets pulled over, they are asked for proof of citizenship. Why shouldn't anyone not have proof of citizenship unless they're illegals.[/QUOTE] Because illegals should get special privileges, because they're a minority and all
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22913330]Where in the bill does it say "Hispanics can be pulled over at random and be asked for citizenship" Because I don't think it says that at all.[/QUOTE] lol, yeah because it has to say that verbatim how is a police officer going to know that the person is an illegal? what gives them probable cause to ask for documents other than that they're brown? do you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their papers
[QUOTE=The golden;22913424]You have serious issues if you fail to see [I]any[/I] way in which this law can be used against non-white Americans. It's so blately obvious you would have to be ignorant not to see it. Oh wait.[/QUOTE] Oh I can see how it can be used against people, too bad the bill doesn't support it at all. And yet here you guys are somehow saying the BILL is racist, no, that is the fault of the police that are racist.
[QUOTE=Ragy;22913405]When [b]anyone[/b] gets pulled over, they are asked for proof of citizenship.[/QUOTE] no they aren't
[QUOTE=The golden;22913424]You have serious issues if you fail to see [I]any[/I] way in which this law can be used against non-white Americans. It's so blately obvious you would have to be ignorant not to see it. Oh wait.[/QUOTE] This law does not target one minority group. It targets all illegals.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22913448]Oh I can see how it can be used against people, too bad the bill doesn't support it at all. And yet here you guys are somehow saying the BILL is racist, no, that is the fault of the police that are racist.[/QUOTE] the arizona law basically legalises racial profiling
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913437]lol, yeah because it has to say that verbatim how is a police officer going to know that the person is an illegal? what gives them probable cause to ask for documents other than that they're brown? do you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their papers[/QUOTE] Probably not, but so what? It isn't a problem to them "Hey man, you were speeding, I need license and citizenship papers" Do you know why people think Hispanics and Latinos are more likely to be illegal than ALL OTHER ethnicities? Probably not.
[QUOTE=Ragy;22913470]This law does not target one minority group. It targets all illegals.[/QUOTE] lol and you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their citizenship papers
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913452]no they aren't[/QUOTE] Are you joking or are you a complete retard?
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913486]lol and you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their citizenship papers[/QUOTE] You're completely retarded if you really think that Latinos and Hispanics on a borderstate are just as often illegal as a white man
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913486]lol and you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their citizenship papers[/QUOTE] A license is proof of citizenship. An electric bill is proof of citizenship. Etc...
[QUOTE=Ragy;22913514]A license is proof of citizenship. An electric bill is proof of citizenship. Etc...[/QUOTE] Technically yes
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913437]lol, yeah because it has to say that verbatim how is a police officer going to know that the person is an illegal? what gives them probable cause to ask for documents other than that they're brown? do you really think an officer is going to ask a white person for their papers[/QUOTE] Driver's License...proof of insurance...he goes back to check and see if everything is correct...TADA. That is standard procedure FOR ANYONE getting pulled over.
[QUOTE=The golden;22913521]That would make you extremely ignorant, which you are.[/QUOTE] Ignorant of what? I seem to be one of the few people here who actually understand what the law does and not going around calling everyone a racist.
[QUOTE=Ragy;22913514]A license is proof of citizenship. An electric bill is proof of citizenship. Etc...[/QUOTE] lol no Documents Serving as Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship In most cases, documents serving as “primary” proof or evidence of citizenship are required. Documents serving as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship are: * Previously issued, undamaged US passport * Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth * Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth * Naturalization Certificate * Certificate of Citizenship
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913589]that's not what the arizona bill says they must show[/QUOTE] What do they have to show, proof of citizenship? A license...is that
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913589]that's not what the arizona bill says they must show[/QUOTE] But thats what any frickin' officer asks for first, "Can I see your driver's license and proof of insurance?"
[QUOTE=Swilly;22913556]Driver's License...proof of insurance...he goes back to check and see if everything is correct...TADA. That is standard procedure FOR ANYONE getting pulled over.[/QUOTE] those aren't proof of citizenship broslice
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913589]that's not what the arizona bill says they must show[/QUOTE] They have to show proof of citizenship buddy.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913589]lol no Documents Serving as Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship In most cases, documents serving as “primary” proof or evidence of citizenship are required. Documents serving as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship are: * Previously issued, undamaged US passport * Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth * Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth * Naturalization Certificate * Certificate of Citizenship[/QUOTE] You'd think an immigrant would keep their passport with them anyway
[QUOTE=Swilly;22913609]But thats what any frickin' officer asks for first, "Can I see your driver's license and proof of insurance."[/QUOTE] Documents Serving as Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship In most cases, documents serving as “primary” proof or evidence of citizenship are required. Documents serving as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship are: * Previously issued, undamaged US passport * Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth * Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth * Naturalization Certificate * Certificate of Citizenship
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913589]lol no Documents Serving as Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship In most cases, documents serving as “primary” proof or evidence of citizenship are required. Documents serving as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship are: * Previously issued, undamaged US passport * Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth * Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth * Naturalization Certificate * Certificate of Citizenship[/QUOTE] Thats only if the driver's license doesn't check out AND they have no proof of insurance.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22913615]those aren't proof of citizenship broslice[/QUOTE] Yes it is, it shows that they live there in that state. If you legally live there, that is proof of citizenship. What do you not understand?
[QUOTE=Swilly;22913642]Thats only if the driver's license doesn't check out AND they have no proof of insurance.[/QUOTE] citation needed [editline]07:35PM[/editline] [QUOTE=The golden;22913647]I'm totally blown away that you and others are completley blind to what this law is saying as a whole. Seriously take a step back and look at the big picture of what it's going to be doing. Don't give me that bullshit saying it's going to be cleaning up the state, beacuse it's not. I also find it rather funny that the only people [I]don't[/I] find this law racist are Americans.[/QUOTE] You'd think the people who are affected, and understand the situation in the states have a more worthy and educated opinion than YOU
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