Final Destination Mk.II; Woman fatally shot by .22 hidden in sock at thrift store
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[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44235531]I thought he found something in the sock and let it drop into his hand thinking it would like a rock or something and it went off when it landed in his hand so how do you have gun safety for that?[/QUOTE]
Any competently designed firearm would not go off from just dropping into someone's hands. It would need to hit something with sufficient force to jar the insides and prompt an AD. Or the trigger would need to be pulled.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;44235591]Any competently designed firearm would not go off from just dropping into someone's hands. It would need to hit something with sufficient force to jar the insides and prompt an AD. Or the trigger would need to be pulled.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps it was a slamfire?
[quote]As dirt and fouling accumulate in the firing pin channel, the pin may begin to protrude from the bolt face, and the risk of slamfire increases. If the firing pin is stuck forward the round will fire every time the bolt closes.
Also, any rifle with a free-floating firing pin will have the firing pin lightly strike the primer when the bolt closes as it chambers in a fresh round. This is perfectly normal, but trouble arises when the gun is loaded with ammo containing primers that are much more sensitive than the ones in the ammo the gun was designed for.
Recognizing the obvious need to minimize the chance of this happening, there are two simple methods commonly employed. One is to use ammunition with harder primers, which require a more significant strike from the firing pin and are thus unlikely to go off with a comparatively light inertial strike. Most military ammunition makes use of hard primers for this reason.[2][3] The second method of minimizing the risk of slamfire is in the design of the firearm itself. Spring-loaded firing pins prevent slamfires because the pin cannot easily move inside the bolt. A proper strike from the firearm's hammer will overcome the resistance of the spring, but ordinary inertia will not. A simple solution in free-floating pin designs is to make the firing pin itself very lightweight, which reduces its inertia and lessens the risk of slamfire.
In properly maintained firearms using appropriate ammunition, slamfires are very rare.
Pump action shotguns lacking a trigger disconnector can be slamfired, on purpose or otherwise, if the trigger is kept depressed whilst cycling the action.[/quote]
I'd imagine it was a very old .22 and had design flaws if it did cause it to slamfire; because that is VERY rare with current age gun technology
What kind of sock is big enough to put a gun in and not have it extremely noticeable?
[QUOTE=kiloy;44236073]What kind of sock is big enough to put a gun in and not have it extremely noticeable?[/QUOTE]
.22s can be small
[img]http://www.genitron.com/Reviews/rev-taurus-pt-22-1.jpg[/img]
still weird he didn't notice the shape of it in a sock
Could've been a [url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derringer]Derringer.[/url]. I've shot these before, they're incredibly small (smaller than the phone I'm browsing on) and modern ones sometimes don't have trigger guards to save space. It still takes a lot of force to pull the trigger though, but one of those would fit in a sock, and could probably get it's trigger stuck on a loop of thread or accidentally be discharged by someone fiddling with the sock. It'd have to be cocked though, which would be strange and INCREDIBLY irresponsible.
I apologize if the gun was pictured in the article, reading this right before work on my phone.
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;44236230']Could've been a [url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derringer]Derringer.[/url]. I've shot these before, they're incredibly small (smaller than the phone I'm browsing on) and modern ones sometimes don't have trigger guards to save space. It still takes a lot of force to pull the trigger though, but one of those would fit in a sock, and could probably get it's trigger stuck on a loop of thread or accidentally be discharged by someone fiddling with the sock. It'd have to be cocked though, which would be strange and INCREDIBLY irresponsible.
I apologize if the gun was pictured in the article, reading this right before work on my phone.[/QUOTE]
No pictures of it in the source so you might be right
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;44236230']strange and INCREDIBLY irresponsible.[/QUOTE]
we're probably talking about the thing being intentionally ditched by someone who wasn't thinking about any sort of long-term procedures above "don't get caught with gun"
[QUOTE=dai;44236325]we're probably talking about the thing being intentionally ditched by someone who wasn't thinking about any sort of long-term procedures above "don't get caught with gun"[/QUOTE]
Or it was in someone's sock drawer, they died, and the people responsible for clearing their shit out just donated everything in bulk. I worked at a Goodwill. This is what happens when you die.
This is why I carry a .22 for protection.
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