• [VIDEO] 'Israel rockets' hit Damascus military site
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40531163]Israel is worried rebel Islamists fighting Assad will siphon weapons off to Hizbullah in Lebanon. In order to prevent this, they have openly declared that they will obliterate any weapons being shipped to Lebanon from Syria.[/QUOTE] Let me add on that, that wasn't just Israel, the US and NATO were worried too. US could do something but it was worried to get into trouble at the Middle East again after the events at Iraq. Syria shares a border with Turkey which is a member of NATO, so NATO was afraid to do something too because Turkey could get counter attacked. So eventually Israel did the job ;)
[QUOTE=Glorbo;40534202]An Iron Dome battery was just transferred to Haifa.[/QUOTE] Basically they escalated the conflict by themselves and are now worried about the consequences. Sad.
[QUOTE=laserguided;40535847]Basically they escalated the conflict by themselves and are now worried about the consequences. Sad.[/QUOTE] Maybe they want Syria to retaliate so they can scream " TERRORISTS ATTACK THE JEWISH STATE BUHUUUU HELP AMERIKA "
[QUOTE=laserguided;40535847]Basically they escalated the conflict by themselves and are now worried about the consequences. Sad.[/QUOTE] Haifa is on the other side of Israel, I don't see how this transfer is relevant. [editline]5th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Dark RaveN;40534185]Why don't they deserve to be invaded now? This is an open war call.[/QUOTE] Syria hasn't the power to invade Israel when they have trouble with their own rebellion. The Israel-Syrian border is heavily fortified. Syria has a long history of not successfully invading Israel, along with just about every other Arab nation bordering it.
Airspace over northern Israel and Haifa area closed off to civilian flights.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;40536025]Airspace over northern Israel and Haifa area closed off to civilian flights.[/QUOTE] Always or is this just been established?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40536043]Always or is this just been established?[/QUOTE] This was currently established.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40535986]Haifa is on the other side of Israel, I don't see how this transfer is relevant. [editline]5th May 2013[/editline] Syria hasn't the power to invade Israel when they have trouble with their own rebellion. The Israel-Syrian border is heavily fortified. Syria has a long history of not successfully invading Israel, along with just about every other Arab nation bordering it.[/QUOTE] Because its a major city, its the same place Hezbollah showered with missiles in 2006.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40535986]Haifa is on the other side of Israel, I don't see how this transfer is relevant. [editline]5th May 2013[/editline] Syria hasn't the power to invade Israel when they have trouble with their own rebellion. [/QUOTE] You said it yourself, Syria isn't the one that Israel will be concerned by. Hizbullah are in a position of power at the moment and have likely been getting favourable arms deals from Syria while Damascus spends all its money on fighting its own war.
[QUOTE=laserguided;40535847]Basically they escalated the conflict by themselves and are now worried about the consequences. Sad.[/QUOTE] They aren't afraid of retaliation from Syria. They are afraid of attacks by Hizbollah, which is also why they attacked the Fateh-110 rockets in Syria that were on transit from Iran to Lebanon, probably on their way to Hizbollahs hands.
The whole situation reminds me of [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict:_Middle_East_Political_Simulator]Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator[/URL]. You play the Israeli PM roughly after the assasination of Yitzhak Rabin, and your goal is basically to destroy all neighbouring states. Egypt and Syria are the most serious threats, and will usually strike shortly after their first successful nuclear tests. The surest way to win was to build profitable relations with these two, while covertly supporting the rebels. Egypt usually went to war with Lybia, so early on it was wise to sabotage relations with Lybia while simultaneously supporting the rebels there. If Syria went to war with Lebanon, I followed to improve relations, but usually Syria took it. All the while building up a huge military force, of course. And, to ensure peace, I even voted for a Palestinian homeland. Eventually, Egypt would overrun Lybia, and Syria would collapse into civil war, at which point the IDF would either overrun Egypt, or the invasion would trigger civil war. Jordan was essentially a non-issue throughout the scenario. Then there was the issue of the second Iran-Iraq war, but all I had to do there was pick whatever side Syria was on.
[QUOTE=mac338;40536531]They aren't afraid of retaliation from Syria. They are afraid of attacks by Hizbollah, which is also why they attacked the Fateh-110 rockets in Syria that were on transit from Iran to Lebanon, probably on their way to Hizbollahs hands.[/QUOTE] They already hit the missiles heading for Hezbollah, they just blew up a research facility which likely staffed civilians.
[QUOTE=Retardation;40537452]yeah i'm sure it had absolutely zero militaristic threat and they just blew it up because it was filled with civilians you guys are just hilarious. you actually think israel bombs civilians on purpose because worsening international relations is politically smart, and the shitstorm that everyone throws when civilians die especially by israeli hand is in [i]anyway[/i] beneficial to the state of israel.[/QUOTE] Do you think Israel violating another countries sovereignty is justified?
[QUOTE=MIPS;40531132]Can someone bring me up to speed on why the fuck Israel has decided it wants to jump into the pool too?[/QUOTE] Hezbollah, being fed by Iran and being a decently veteran and well funded force has been assisting Assad's forces in a multitude of means. Hezbollah has at least a couple thousand guys in Syria ferrying in and out of Lebanon. Israel has its past issues with Hezbollah and seems to be taking any chance they can to strike at them directly or indirectly. Israel's rational was that weapons from the plant were ending up in Hezbollah hands and they didn't want that but who really knows if that is the fullest story.
Israel is just trying to secure its best interests for its people through (sometimes questionable) force. It's what they do.
I doubt Syria would do anything since they have a civil war on their hands. But it could happen (and speed up the overthrow of the government.)
Egypt condemns Israel for the attacks [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-egypt-idUSBRE94407N20130505[/url] [QUOTE](Reuters) - Egypt condemned an Israeli attack on Syria on Sunday, saying it complicated a crisis that Cairo was trying to help resolve. Israel carried out its second air strike in days on Syria, targeting Iranian-supplied missiles headed for Lebanon's Hezbollah, a Western intelligence source said. In a statement, Egypt's presidency said the attack was a violation of international law and a threat to regional security and stability that "made the situation more complicated". [/QUOTE]
I still say that Israel is doing this to gain more occupied land. They've had bordering Syrian land occupied for decades and gradually expand each year.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;40536819]The whole situation reminds me of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict:_Middle_East_Political_Simulator"]Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator[/URL]. You play the Israeli PM roughly after the assasination of Yitzhak Rabin, and your goal is basically to destroy all neighbouring states. Egypt and Syria are the most serious threats, and will usually strike shortly after their first successful nuclear tests. The surest way to win was to build profitable relations with these two, while covertly supporting the rebels. Egypt usually went to war with Lybia, so early on it was wise to sabotage relations with Lybia while simultaneously supporting the rebels there. If Syria went to war with Lebanon, I followed to improve relations, but usually Syria took it. All the while building up a huge military force, of course. And, to ensure peace, I even voted for a Palestinian homeland. Eventually, Egypt would overrun Lybia, and Syria would collapse into civil war, at which point the IDF would either overrun Egypt, or the invasion would trigger civil war. Jordan was essentially a non-issue throughout the scenario. Then there was the issue of the second Iran-Iraq war, but all I had to do there was pick whatever side Syria was on.[/QUOTE] Because you mentioned this I [B]had[/B] to play it, so many people have recommended it before. Pretty good game, managed to "win" on my third attempt by inciting rebellions across the entire region. Would recommend it to anyone who has a slight interest in politics. It has got me wondering if Israel is playing this game IRL now.
my trip to israel that was supposed to happen tomorrow just got cancelled fuck fucking fuckers [quote]Dear IP students & emergency contacts: Due to escalating military actions and tensions between Israel and Syria, the FSU Israel Program has been cancelled. We regret the last minute nature of the cancellation and the disappointment it will cause, but the safety of our students and faculty members is paramount. We will do everything we can to facilitate transfers to other FSU International Programs, for any student who wishes to do so. Some programs have visa restrictions and/or space limitations, but we will do our best to accommodate your request.[/quote]
Well, I guess I'm not going to a Kibbutz this summer :/
[QUOTE=ewitwins;40539352]Well, I guess I'm not going to a Kibbutz this summer :/[/QUOTE] i was gonna be in the kibbutz tzuba. only the dead know peace from these feelings
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;40538975]my trip to israel that was supposed to happen tomorrow just got cancelled fuck fucking fuckers[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ewitwins;40539352]Well, I guess I'm not going to a Kibbutz this summer :/[/QUOTE] lol You guys are taking this way too fucking seriously This will blow over in a week [editline]5th May 2013[/editline] Seriously, it's worth coming here during wartime just to see Iron Dome making an interception live
[QUOTE=Retardation;40537706]if it's for the sake of preventing its weapons falling into the wrong hands yes. syria is a smoldering mess, it doesn't really have 'sovereignty' anymore but lets assume it does. still doesn't invalidate my point. any country would do the exact same thing. you think the US would just sit quietly while south america was pumping quantities of weaponry over to mexico for the express purpose of being used against the US?[/QUOTE] Hurr durr lets just support Israel killing 2000 people because hurr durr its Israel and they're the glorious jewish masterrace who can never do wrong.
[QUOTE=Miskav;40539817]glorious jewish masterrace[/QUOTE] lmao what
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