• HazteOir.org begins new anti-lgbtq campaign with the message "boys have penises" "girls have vulvas"
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that whole 'I swear I don't care what other people do to make themselves be happy but I'm real mad at people choosing to be the opposite gender' is just a nice way to pretend you're not actually transphobic. it's also embarrassing and transparent as fuck, no one is falling for your shit.
[QUOTE=KingofBeast;51886975]but can you prove to me that someone (short of being a deformity) developed female reproductive organs and no male reproductive organs while having an XY configuration? And I never said people couldn't identify better [i]with[/i] the gender they weren't born as, in fsaid I didn't even care about that. My argument is that even if you are a feminine enough male to fit in better with females, you can't change that your DNA dictates that you're a male. Even if you modify your body and take pills. Identifying [i]as[/i] something that you aren't is my problem.[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome[/url] Ughhh
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;51887120]Because that's technically not correct, by what they're referring to. I mean, yeah, people [I]are[/I] born with vaginas, but when looking at the groin of an AFAB person, you're seeing a vulva. People just call that a vagina, anyway. It's just like AMAB people have testicles, a prostate, and other bits, but it's just said "they have a penis."[/QUOTE] True, it's just odd hearing a broader term paired with one that's medically accurate. Usually with trans people, I hear "you either have a penis or a vagina!" so I'm not used to hearing something else said. My apologies, I should have made my point clearer.
[QUOTE=KingofBeast;51886916]I'm sorry, you lost me when you implied that the X and Y chromosomes that determine biological sex don't actually determine biological sex. Zillamaster is the perfect example of me saying people get triggered when they read something they don't like. Can't you just debate and not get into the character assessments and assumptions about me personally?[/QUOTE] Some times chromosomes don't match up to sex. There are people who despite being male or female have the wrong chromosomes. 2 examples: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis[/url] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome#Signs_and_symptoms[/url] (some images on this article are mildly nsfw)
To add to this discussion with a language perspective: Afaik, sex and gender both translate to the same word in Norwegian, which is sort of annoying. It's a bit difficult to adopt this idea of there being a difference between "kjønn" and "kjønn" if both words are the same thing anyways. I actually wonder what people do about that here. Maybe I've missed something, maybe it's a problem that exists in several languages.
I like the tagline [I]"boys have penises"[/I] and [I]"girls have vulvas"[/I]. It perfectly captures that being anti-lgbt requires you to insist on defining people by their genitals. Personally I feel iffy about the whole concept of gender because I don't like how certain behavior and traits being assigned to a gender when really we could live in a society where you just behave how you want and look like you want, and not have to worry about what you [I]are[/I] because the trait is owned by a gender. But at least defining it by how someone feels makes more sense than defining it by their genitals. Determining sex may be more simple in most cases, but it's pointless. Same goes for defining it by genetics, what is the point? It's simple and straight forward [I](most of the time)[/I], but is it useful?
[QUOTE=paul simon;51887599]To add to this discussion with a language perspective: Afaik, sex and gender both translate to the same word in Norwegian, which is sort of annoying. It's a bit difficult to adopt this idea of there being a difference between "kjønn" and "kjønn" if both words are the same thing anyways. I actually wonder what people do about that here. Maybe I've missed something, maybe it's a problem that exists in several languages.[/QUOTE] same thing with finnish and finnish also has no gender pronouns so idk
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51884762][QUOTE=riki2cool;51884690]Would be a shame if someone torched it[/QUOTE] That would actually be a shame because it sends a message that if you don't agree with something it's okay to destroy it. The bus needs to be made fun of, not vandalized.[/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/La_Vasallo/status/836506534364479489[/media] Too late. Her tweet reads "can someone brighten us our day and confirm that the crazies (referring to women) have returned the fire to the chariots?" [url=http://www.diariorepublica.com/sucesos/quemaron-un-bus-entre-5-de-julio-y-bella-vista-transito-restringido#]More on the incident (in Spanish)[/url]. [QUOTE=eirexe;51885553]Tell that to good old franco [t]https://i.imgur.com/FnUCc3Ch.jpg[/t] It's a joke of course, but you get the idea, I don't think bunch of paint on the bus would be too bad.[/QUOTE] I piggyback what Jimbob said earlier. Fucking shit up because one doesn't agree with something serves no purpose whatsoever and you know it.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51891824]Loading Tweet... [URL]https://twitter.com/La_Vasallo/status/836506534364479489[/URL] Too late. Her tweet reads "can someone brighten us our day and confirm that the crazies (referring to women) have returned the fire to the chariots?" [URL="http://www.diariorepublica.com/sucesos/quemaron-un-bus-entre-5-de-julio-y-bella-vista-transito-restringido#"]More on the incident (in Spanish)[/URL]. I piggyback what Jimbob said earlier. Fucking shit up because one doesn't agree with something serves no purpose whatsoever and you know it.[/QUOTE] The tweet is fake though: [URL]http://www.diariorepublica.com/sucesos/quemaron-un-bus-entre-5-de-julio-y-bella-vista-transito-restringido#[/URL] The bus was stopped by the police of madrid, and I believe it's still in custody, since it's basically hate speech and it could be illegal. [URL="http://www.lavanguardia.com/vida/20170228/42392323515/el-autobus-de-hazteoir-inmovilizado-por-la-policia-municipal-en-madrid.html"]El autobús de HazteOir, inmovilizado por la Policía Municipal en Madrid[/URL] Here's a source, the city of madrid stated that in spite of being violent and offensive, it violated municipal ordinances and could also be hate speech.
[QUOTE=kariko;51884437]I don't understand how they get "wants to control the world" from "could we have the same rights as everyone else?" It's so silly.[/QUOTE] They find it very scary when people stop taking their religious ideals seriously, means they have less influence
[QUOTE=FeartheMango;51885168]Somebody will have to let the Jews know they've got competition now[/QUOTE] The homosexual Jews will come out on top, just you wait and see [QUOTE=KingofBeast;51886882]No, my experience is just that people in SH get incredibly triggered when they hear something they don't like. My point is just like everyone else's here: throw the opinion out there.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://i.imgur.com/upbX7qu.jpg"]for you blue members, lets see how embarrassing he sounds[/URL] Gosh this guy is salty
[QUOTE=GreySky;51887084]It's incredibly sad to see people willingly ignoring established science and invalidating others' identities just so they can "trigger" them. We're a rather vulnerable minority, how can anyone be scared of us gaining acceptance other than the fact it might throw off their comfortable status quo of sex equaling gender?[/QUOTE] It's really dumb that "triggered" is even a thing anymore when it's become pretty obvious that trump and other conservatives are the most triggered of them all
[QUOTE=dark_vivec;51905243]It's really dumb that "triggered" is even a thing anymore when it's become pretty obvious that trump and other conservatives are the most triggered of them all[/QUOTE] And the winner of the Term of the Year award is: Horseshoe Theory!
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