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[QUOTE=Rich209;26304972]Even if thats so, there still living a damn better life than you or me.[/QUOTE] I don't think Julian Assange actually owns a house, he stays in hotels and in friends houses. Or something like that, I can't exactly remember the interview.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;26305065]This file is way too large to be vague.[/QUOTE] It doesn't prove that it is real.
Maybe they "Slashdotted" themselves? Isn't it plausible that they created so much hype in such a short amount of time that so many people tried to download the file at the same time and overloaded the servers?
[QUOTE=Rich209;26304972]Even if thats so, there still living a damn better life than you or me.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because I can't travel to the US either. Oh wait.
That insurance file is months old anyway.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305095]It doesn't prove that it is real.[/QUOTE] Carbon Knight: Professional skeptic.
Most of the IP addresses I'm sending part of the insurance file to are in America, funnily enough. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26305105]Maybe they "Slashdotted" themselves? Isn't it plausible that they created so much hype in such a short amount of time that so many people tried to download the file at the same time and overloaded the servers?[/QUOTE] This isn't how P2P works, they're distributing it in a cloud of different people.
[QUOTE=Jsm;26304996]I assume you had never actually looked around wikileaks, there's tonnes of non US leaks, even non governmental leaks. They also apparently have [b]leaks from BP[/b], they really will be interesting when they are eventually put out into the open.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;26305119]Most of the IP addresses I'm sending part of the insurance file to are in America, funnily enough. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] This isn't how P2P works, they're distributing it in a cloud of different people.[/QUOTE] How is that funny? That's how it should be.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26305116]That insurance file is months old anyway.[/QUOTE] Nobody outside wikileaks has even seen it that we know of, that doesn't mean shit
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;26305117]Carbon Knight: Professional skeptic.[/QUOTE] Yes, because I take a moment and think instead of taking everything at 100% face value and blubbering into hysterics. I'll just shovel shit into my mouth and assume that it's cereal.
[QUOTE=Makuuta;26305130]How is that funny? That's how it should be.[/QUOTE] It's our(assuming you're in the US) government that's shitting itself over the file, so the fact that it's us Americans mostly downloading it just made me laugh a little.
This is great, Wikileaks is actually doing something productive by holding the password from us.. not.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305145]Yes, because I take a moment and think instead of taking everything at 100% face value and blubbering into hysterics. I'll just shovel shit into my mouth and assume that it's cereal.[/QUOTE] You're ignoring blatant facts because you think that the logical thing to do is assume that everyone is lying until they prove themselves.
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;26305160]It's our(assuming you're in the US) government that's shitting itself over the file, so the fact that it's us Americans mostly downloading it just made me laugh a little.[/QUOTE] I'm Canadian, now what. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=CjienX;26305173]You're ignoring blatant facts because you think that the logical thing to do is assume that everyone is lying until they prove themselves.[/QUOTE] Prove that theory wrong then report in.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26305173]You're ignoring blatant facts because you think that the logical thing to do is assume that everyone is lying until they prove themselves.[/QUOTE] What facts. We are talking about a bloody file that no one has even read yet. I am ignorant because I am skeptical that it is life-changing?
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26305180]I'm Canadian, now what. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] Prove that theory wrong then report in.[/QUOTE] He quoted me? And that's good. It means some Americans give a fuck about what happens in our country without us knowing.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305189]What facts. We are talking about a bloody file that no one has even read yet. I am ignorant because I am skeptical that it is life-changing?[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about the insurance file, you've pretty much been saying the whole thread that wikileaks isn't a reliable source
Well, I'm downloading that file. I'll post back in a few billion years when I crack it.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26304325]Do you really think a site as big as wikileaks wouldn't be prepared for heavy traffic?[/QUOTE] their servers are and always have been shit. Before the apache guncam video they used to have a true wiki with TONS of info. Now they host just US stuff and beg for money all day.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26305208]I'm not talking about the insurance file, you've pretty much been saying the whole thread that wikileaks isn't a reliable source[/QUOTE] I am saying that you shouldn't trust it as an infallible source of truth. I mean it is more trustworthy than FOX but you can't assume everything is the truth.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26305180]I'm Canadian, now what. [/QUOTE] I change my wording to say "It's my government" and finish the conversation.
Don't want to make a new thread, so I'm gonna just post this here and add it to the OP: [quote](Reuters) - The United States has briefed Britain, Australia, Canada, Denmark, Norway and Israel ahead of the expected new release of classified U.S. documents, WikiLeaks said on Thursday, citing local press reports. The whistle-blowing website said by Twitter that American diplomats briefed government officials of its six allies in advance of the release expected in the next few days. The next release is expected to include thousands of diplomatic cables reporting corruption allegations against politicians in Russia, Afghanistan and other Central Asian nations, sources familiar with the State Department cables held by WikiLeaks told Reuters on Wednesday. The allegations are major enough to cause serious embarrassment for foreign governments, the sources said. Some governments appear to be bracing for the impact of the revelations. According to the London-based daily al-Hayat, the WikiLeaks release includes documents that show Turkey has helped al-Qaeda in Iraq -- and that the United States has supported the PKK, a Kurdish rebel organization that has been waging a separatist war against Turkey since 1984, the Washington Post reported. The U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv warned the Israeli foreign ministry that some of the cables could concern U.S.-Israel relations, the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported, citing a senior Israeli official. r.reuters.com/cek37q WikiLeaks said on its Twitter feed earlier this week that its new release would be seven times larger than the nearly 400,000 Pentagon documents related to the Iraq war which it made public in October. Past releases by WikiLeaks, founded by Julian Assange, an Australian-born computer hacker, contained sensitive information about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which the U.S. government had said compromised national security and put some people at risk. A State Department spokesman said on Wednesday that Washington was notifying foreign governments about the possible release of documents.[/quote] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP06Z20101126[/url] [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305218]I am saying that you shouldn't trust it as an infallible source of truth. I mean it is more trustworthy than FOX but you can't assume everything is the truth.[/QUOTE] And what would you say they have to do to be trustworthy, prove that they're right? Because that isn't pretty much exactly what I said or anything
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305145]Yes, because I take a moment and think instead of taking everything at 100% face value and blubbering into hysterics. I'll just shovel shit into my mouth and assume that it's cereal.[/QUOTE] You have a really fucking huge ego, you know that?
[QUOTE=CjienX;26305237]And what would you say they have to do to be trustworthy, prove that they're right? Because that isn't pretty much exactly what I said or anything[/QUOTE] I am saying there is no such thing as an infallible source, [B]you must always take information with a grain of salt.[/B] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;26305258]You have a really fucking huge ego, you know that?[/QUOTE] No I didn't. I was just stating the obvious bolded above. ^
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305269]I am saying there is no such thing as an infallible source, you must always take information with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between taking it with a grain of salt and acting like a stubborn 3 year old that refuses to admit that they're wrong.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26305280]There's a difference between taking it with a grain of salt and acting like a stubborn 3 year old that refuses to admit that they're wrong.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry that my skepticism that Wikileaks isn't absolute truth bugs you but that is my opinion.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26305237]Don't want to make a new thread, so I'm gonna just post this here and add it to the OP: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP06Z20101126[/url] [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] And what would you say they have to do to be trustworthy, prove that they're right? Because that isn't pretty much exactly what I said or anything[/QUOTE] Hmmmmm... Interesting. This leak is going to be fascinating in the next coming days.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;26305269]I am saying there is no such thing as an infallible source, [B]you must always take information with a grain of salt.[/B] No I didn't. I was just stating the obvious bolded above. ^[/QUOTE] Yeah, we get it, we're not fucking stupid. Not one person has said that Wikileaks is infallible, yet all you've done this entire thread is shit about how everyone is gullible. How about you find someone who actually says something you disagree with first instead of just putting words in peoples mouths and whining about it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;26305313]Yeah, we get it, we're not fucking stupid. Not one person has said that Wikileaks is infallible, yet all you've done this entire thread is shit about how everyone is gullible. How about you find someone who actually says something you disagree with first instead of just putting words in peoples mouths and whining about it.[/QUOTE] The term "Huge Ego" made you seem like you disagreed with my post.
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