• Trump Acknowledges He Is Under Investigation while attacking integrity of Rosenstein
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[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367307]You know Someone has a theory out there that this is a massive deception operation by Trump to push out the leakers, That he's going to come out of this fine. I'd kinda want this to be true, Just so we could stop attacking each other's throats. But I also agree sometimes Trump needs to keep his mouth shut. I do wan't Trump to be a good president, but his mouth (and twitter) may be hindering that.[/QUOTE] Trump will go down in history as the worst president of all time, unless somebody else manages to turn America into a de facto dictatorship. He had his chance, and I was willing to give him one myself to see if he'd do a decent job after his election. That's now gone out the window thanks to his actions and his childish behavior.
Rosenstein is the better 3d chess player.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52366927]Not even that. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tup3UpGAOF4"]He said he made his mind up before Rosenstein even told him to do anything.[/URL][/QUOTE] I'm sure he made his mind up before Rosenstein told him to do anything because at the time it seemed like a great idea, but now that he's catching all sorts of flak for it it has to be Rosenstein's fault, because it was a terrible idea, and Trump can't possibly have a terrible idea.
Trump's personal attorney just lawyered up. Lordy.
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;52367091]if trump just fires every government & security official, there won't be anyone left to investigate him! case closed, trumps wins again liberals![/QUOTE] What do you mean I can't fire Congress!!!!????
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367307]You know Someone has a theory out there that this is a massive deception operation by Trump to push out the leakers, That he's going to come out of this fine. I'd kinda want this to be true, Just so we could stop attacking each other's throats. But I also agree sometimes Trump needs to keep his mouth shut. I do wan't Trump to be a good president, but his mouth (and twitter) may be hindering that.[/QUOTE] Why would it be a good thing to "push out" leakers in the first place? What is positive about baiting people into whistleblowing what they perceive to be a massive conspiracy and threat to national security, only to expel those most virtuous and dedicated members of government as punishment for them having morals?
[QUOTE=srobins;52367568]Why would it be a good thing to "push out" leakers in the first place? What is positive about baiting people into whistleblowing what they perceive to be a massive conspiracy and threat to national security, only to expel those most virtuous and dedicated members of government as punishment for them having morals?[/QUOTE] Because People think these are political leakers put in by Obama to sabotage trump. Obama was Hardly a saint though. I wish it was true not because of the leakers, but because People Pushing at each others throats
Witch-Hunt you say? [thumb]https://img6.newspapers.com/img/img?id=166226886&width=557&height=2320&crop=0_114_832_3530&rotation=0&brightness=0&contrast=0&invert=0&ts=1497636774&h=b02dd6971a521df7a27a96b50727b110[/thumb]
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367307]You know Someone has a theory out there that this is a massive deception operation by Trump to push out the leakers, That he's going to come out of this fine. I'd kinda want this to be true, Just so we could stop attacking each other's throats. But I also agree sometimes Trump needs to keep his mouth shut. I do wan't Trump to be a good president, but his mouth (and twitter) may be hindering that.[/QUOTE] All I can do is laugh loudly, and unashamedly at the pure stupidity of these "Trump really is just the smartest guy ever playing 23954028348723947Dimensional chess."
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367579]Because People think these are political leakers put in by Obama to sabotage trump. Obama was Hardly a saint though. I wish it was true not because of the leakers, but because People Pushing at each others throats[/QUOTE] Even if they were, if they're leaking things that indicate wrong doing on behalf of the administration, they're entirely justified.
[QUOTE=srobins;52367627]Even if they were, if they're leaking things that indicate wrong doing on behalf of the administration, they're entirely justified.[/QUOTE] And then they are saying they are selectively leaking and making shit up.
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;52367091]if trump just fires every government & security official, there won't be anyone left to investigate him! case closed, trumps wins again liberals![/QUOTE] start w/ himself
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Trump allies/supporters: "He didn't do it. He didn't do it." Trump: "I did it" Trump allies/supporters: "So what if he did it, Hillary's emails" rinse and repeat ad nauseam
I have to wonder if this is related to the weird memo that rosenstein sent out
[QUOTE=Tigster;52367771]Trump allies/supporters: "He didn't do it. He didn't do it." Trump: "I did it" Trump allies/supporters: [del]"So what if he did it, Hillary's emails"[/del] "Doesn't matter, it was cool anyway." rinse and repeat ad nauseam[/QUOTE] fixed
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52367260]is there ever going to be a time where you just accept that reality isn't favouring your candidate[/QUOTE] "Where are they getting this 'impeachment' thing from? Trump didn't get impeached. There's nothing in there that says he's impeached." Trump supporter, upon reading the article about Trump being successfully impeached and nothing else
[QUOTE=srobins;52367627]Even if they were, if they're leaking things that indicate wrong doing on behalf of the administration, they're entirely justified.[/QUOTE] It's almost as if they set up a social experiment to see if anyone would rat someone out for a crime, only to arrest them for snitching. It makes no moral sense what so ever.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52368006]"Where are they getting this 'impeachment' thing from? Trump didn't get impeached. There's nothing in there that says he's impeached." Trump supporter, upon reading the article about Trump being successfully impeached and nothing else[/QUOTE] i think about that tweet that said trump will one day look a reporter in the eye and say "i never ran for president." a lot
It is a bit absurd, now that he mentions it.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52368463]It is a bit absurd, now that he mentions it.[/QUOTE] No. You have to be fucking trolling at this point pal. Trump himself, in his own [B]god damn words[/B] said that he made the decision to fire Comey on his own without Rosenstein. Him now turning around and blaming Rosenstein for that is a pure fabrication. And you are the type of person to buy into a total and utter fabrication as it would turn out.
[QUOTE=Tigster;52367771]Trump allies/supporters: "He didn't do it. He didn't do it." Trump: "I did it" Trump allies/supporters: "So what if he did it, Hillary's emails" rinse and repeat ad nauseam[/QUOTE] "its not illegal"
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52368492]No. You have to be fucking trolling at this point pal. Trump himself, in his own [B]god damn words[/B] said that he made the decision to fire Comey on his own without Rosenstein. Him now turning around and blaming Rosenstein for that is a pure fabrication. And you are the type of person to buy into a total and utter fabrication as it would turn out.[/QUOTE] Not Joking had a law scholar said that Trump was able to do the things he did, but his twitter account ruined it, and in fact he may now be in trouble. And this was a CONSERVATIVE Law scholar. [URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448715/donald-trump-obstruction-justice-robert-mueller-investigation-risk"]http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448715/donald-trump-obstruction-justice-robert-mueller-investigation-risk[/URL] He'd better hope if we find the leaks fraudulent
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367579]Because People think these are political leakers put in by Obama to sabotage trump. Obama was Hardly a saint though. I wish it was true not because of the leakers, but because People Pushing at each others throats[/QUOTE] Some "throats" are well overdue for a damn good "pushing."
[QUOTE=lxmach1;52368530]"its not illegal"[/QUOTE] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiHN3IJ_j8A]Someone else had a similar explanation[/url]
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52367646]And then they are saying they are selectively leaking and making shit up.[/QUOTE] Making shit up is one thing, selectively leaking because they disagree with certain policies seems fine to me.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52368661]Not Joking had a law scholar said that Trump was able to do the things he did, but his twitter account ruined it, and in fact he may now be in trouble. And this was a CONSERVATIVE Law scholar. [URL]http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448715/donald-trump-obstruction-justice-robert-mueller-investigation-risk[/URL] He'd better hope if we find the leaks fraudulent[/QUOTE] One could say that things were going fairly well for the President until very recently. The guy was under no investigation and the Russian farce was starting to sputter out from lack of evidence -- then he makes that fatal tweet about "the tapes." Immediately there's Congressional subpoenas on his ass hard, hearings televised on the national news, and now he's even got Mueller sniffing him up like no other. I think without Twitter, the President would almost assuredly have made it through this whole debacle relatively unscathed. Now this whole obstruction of justice fiasco is throwing his messages off and presenting a real threat of impeachment. [editline]16th June 2017[/editline] Offtopic; that's a righteous Dave French article. The guy's solidly in the top echelon of writers on NR and always has a great position to argue.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52369112]One could say that things were going fairly well for the President until very recently. The guy was under no investigation and the Russian farce was starting to sputter out from lack of evidence -- then he makes that fatal tweet about "the tapes." Immediately there's Congressional subpoenas on his ass hard, hearings televised on the national news, and now he's even got Mueller sniffing him up like no other. I think without Twitter, the President would almost assuredly have made it through this whole debacle relatively unscathed. Now this whole obstruction of justice fiasco is throwing his messages off and presenting a real threat of impeachment. [editline]16th June 2017[/editline] Offtopic; that's a righteous Dave French article. The guy's solidly in the top echelon of writers on NR and always has a great position to argue.[/QUOTE] Yeah, running a one party government does go pretty well. It does take a magnificent moron to muck that up and somehow you people still can't drop your support for the fucking guy. He acts outwardly incompotent. Trump isn't the end of America. But he's a god damn good warning sign that the next guy will be so fucking devious, so skilled at the partisan language that if Trump was capable of, would allow him to dance around investigations and the like. Now there's no filibuster power left, there's a lot of things that have changed, and you cheer now, but we'll see where it goes now that your team opened up the gates to one party rules.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52369112]One could say that things were going fairly well for the President until very recently. [B]The guy was under no investigation and the Russian farce was starting to sputter out from lack of evidence[/B] -- then he makes that fatal tweet about "the tapes." Immediately there's Congressional subpoenas on his ass hard, hearings televised on the national news, and now he's even got Mueller sniffing him up like no other. I think without Twitter, the President would almost assuredly have made it through this whole debacle relatively unscathed. Now this whole obstruction of justice fiasco is throwing his messages off and presenting a real threat of impeachment. [editline]16th June 2017[/editline] Offtopic; that's a righteous Dave French article. The guy's solidly in the top echelon of writers on NR and always has a great position to argue.[/QUOTE] Erm, no? The Russia investigation has been going on for like a year and was, according to Trump, the entire reason for the Comey incident. I don't know where you're getting the idea that the Russia thing was sputtering out, let alone a farce lol
[QUOTE=Chonch;52369112]One could say that things were going fairly well for the President until very recently. The guy was under no investigation and the Russian farce was starting to sputter out from lack of evidence -- then he makes that fatal tweet about "the tapes." Immediately there's Congressional subpoenas on his ass hard, hearings televised on the national news, and now he's even got Mueller sniffing him up like no other. I think without Twitter, the President would almost assuredly have made it through this whole debacle relatively unscathed. Now this whole obstruction of justice fiasco is throwing his messages off and presenting a real threat of impeachment. [editline]16th June 2017[/editline] Offtopic; that's a righteous Dave French article. The guy's solidly in the top echelon of writers on NR and always has a great position to argue.[/QUOTE] PSA: Chonch apparently now has access to the inner workings of the Russian investigation and knows from first hand experience that due to a lack of evidence it was sputtering out
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