• North Korean satellite 'tumbling out of control'
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Can't they do anything right?
[QUOTE=Riller;38813762]Well, first off, it's not. Second, it probably wouldn't work, anyway. North Korean nuclear weapons are as reliable as the missiles they are launched on; IE, not very. And that's in ground-tests; having one go into space and back down wouldn't do good stuff for reliability.[/QUOTE] Ehhh, once you have the materials, a nuclear bomb isn't as complicated as you might imagine. Granted this is just a satellite and in no way actually a nuclear weapon. An unprovoked first strike with a single warhead would result in the almost immediate destruction of North Korea. They are insane, but not quite THAT insane.
How long has it been over Africa? [editline]13th December 2012[/editline] I-I think it just crashed.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;38813858]How long has it been over Africa? [editline]13th December 2012[/editline] I-I think it just crashed.[/QUOTE] I'm seeing it as moving across Japan right now, so probably still flying [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8676538/ShareX/2012-12/2012-12-13_12-30-28.png[/IMG]
What I expect [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZw2S8z22CI[/media]
[QUOTE=GunFox;38813828]Ehhh, once you have the materials, a nuclear bomb isn't as complicated as you might imagine.[/QUOTE] Oh I know how a nuke is made, I'm just saying, North Korean nuclear program has been a whole lot of fizzles and just a few bangs. How embarrasing would it be to nuke a country, only to have the bomb fizzle? Is that like, the international version of jizzing in your pants during attempted rape? :v:
[QUOTE=Riller;38813938]Oh I know how a nuke is made, I'm just saying, North Korean nuclear program has been a whole lot of fizzles and just a few bangs. How embarrasing would it be to nuke a country, only to have the bomb fizzle? Is that like, the international version of jizzing in your pants during attempted rape? :v:[/QUOTE] Welcome to Megaton!
You guy should stop worrying about it falling down / crashing into other satellites anytime soon. Space is big, and orbits don't just stop working as soon as it's out of control. Unless they actually control it to go back down, it's going to stay up there for a while, unless of course it hits another satellite, which again is [I]very[/I] unlikely to happen for a while. Loads of satellites in orbit that [I]are[/I] under control pose a very similar collision threat as this, unless NK is actually just making us think that it's out of control and they are really going to bring it down somewhere. Of course, many of you are probably joking, but I wanted to make my point anyways. Also, I do not think that North Korea's satellite is launched with entirely peaceful intent, probably it's to test the rocket or something like that, but this whole thing does remind me somewhat of Sputnik 1.
Eh, I'm really not worried about whatever NK might try to launch. They've got a relationship sort of going on with China, I don't think they have any beef with Japan, America has more than enough anti-missile weapons and South Korea, well, they've got their best on the defense: [img]http://i.imgur.com/RqvtX.jpg[/img]
North Korea is like a small, scary child with deluded parents and nuclear weapons. just the line that they have no idea what exactly it is makes me think of this heavy, lumpy papier mache rugby ball that Kim looked down upon with a mixture of humoured pride and subdued disgust and thought "Good job! This is going straight on the galactic equivilant of the fridge!"
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;38807839]"Dear leader what should I do with this one?" "Put it with the rest of the angry letters and bring me another traitor, that last fireworks show was wonderful"[/QUOTE] I've always wondered what the UN, or anyone would do if they kept "breaking their laws" (other than sending angry letters.) [editline]A little later than what I wrote first[/editline] I remember Andy Parsons saying "The biggest threat to North Korea, seems to be North Korea itself." Let's keep that in mind.
[QUOTE=nikomo;38814035]I don't think they have any beef with Japan, [/QUOTE] Japan is their most hated country. They hate them more than the US.
Some of the talk about satellites here.... Guys satellites don't just fall down. It's not like they fucked up the launch and it could fall down any second now. The satellite is in orbit, and will stay there unless acted on by another force. Right now, the only thing acting on it is the friction from the earth's atmosphere. I don't know what orbit it's in, but assuming it's in LEO, the satellite will eventually lose speed until it burns up in the atmosphere. But that really depends on multiple factors, and this thing will probably be up there for longer than NK remains a country.
[QUOTE=Riller;38814152]Japan is their most hated country. They hate them more than the US.[/QUOTE] IIRC there are North Korean school books with songs about killing Japanese soldiers
No, filthy foreingers, it is the universe that is tumbling. Glorious Korean satellite is so great it knocked the universe around.
They should have invested in an SAS module
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;38814451]I don't know what orbit it's in, but assuming it's in LEO, the satellite will eventually lose speed until it burns up in the atmosphere. But that really depends on multiple factors, and this thing will probably be up there for longer than NK remains a country.[/QUOTE] Nah, it' in ~400-500km, with the periapsis pretty close to 400 from what I remember, so I'd say a maximum ten years, minimum perhaps half a year, I'm not sure entirely how much atmosphere it feels up there, but the ISS at 400km does require a little help every now and then, to stay in orbit. It's not just gonna fall down, say on the 21st, though.
Did anyone notice the article says nothing about it losing control except in the title?
How do you tumble out of control in orbit.
[QUOTE=Garik;38815181]How do you tumble out of control in orbit.[/QUOTE] Very easily A slight push in one direction and you start to tumble. Not having any (significant) resistance makes it a bit annoying
It's an EMP
[QUOTE=Garik;38815181]How do you tumble out of control in orbit.[/QUOTE] all I can think of is the satellite broadcasting propaganda posts on tumblr so I did a little search on the tumbles and found this to be oddly relevant [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ekl6aLhJ1qafqc1o1_500.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;38810080]The orbit is an ellipse. Altitude decreases as it approaches the periapsis.[/QUOTE] Although looking at the tracking website, it looks like it's periapsis is falling as well - the site lists it as 505.5 Km, but it went down to 501 Km, so I'm guessing it might not stay up for a hugely long time.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;38815198]Very easily A slight push in one direction and you start to tumble. Not having any (significant) resistance makes it a bit annoying[/QUOTE] Yeah, but tumbling out of control as in losing altitude. How high do you have to go to be not affected by wind resistance?
rocket was made in china (assembled by uneducated communists) so nothing amusing. anyways LOL
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;38816294]rocket was made in china (assembled by uneducated communists) so nothing amusing. anyways LOL[/QUOTE] China isn't communist. And AFAIK it was made in North Korea.
[QUOTE=laserguided;38816368]China isn't communist. And AFAIK it was made in North Korea.[/QUOTE] despite its poor quality. i sometimes feel that the rocket was made in china (its a joke)
[QUOTE=Riller;38813762]Well, first off, it's not. Second, it probably wouldn't work, anyway. North Korean nuclear weapons are as reliable as the missiles they are launched on; IE, not very. And that's in ground-tests; having one go into space and back down wouldn't do good stuff for reliability.[/QUOTE] What if its disguised as a satellite
[QUOTE=shian;38820694]What if its disguised as a satellite[/QUOTE] if it's any help, this is what it looked like on the pad, seems to have been sitting there since at least april. [img]http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/featured-images/North-Korea-To-Launch-Locally-Made-Satellite-Kwangmyongsong-3-In-April.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=daijitsu;38820740]if it's any help, this is what it looked like on the pad, seems to have been sitting there since at least april. [img]http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/featured-images/North-Korea-To-Launch-Locally-Made-Satellite-Kwangmyongsong-3-In-April.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I don't believe that this is true. I would assess the main components aren't set up at the launch site for a while until a launch cycle has started to prevent weather damage. Otherwise news agencies would have pointed out the TD-2 a long time ago. [editline]13DEC12[/editline] And by launch cycle I mean C2 vans, and POL trucks making it's way to the launch site all at the same time.
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