• Boris Johnson vows UK ties with EU will be strengthened after referendum result
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[QUOTE=Superkilll307;50604840]EU have told Boris to fuck right off. [url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/brussels-rejects-boris-johnson-pipe-dream-over-single-market-access[/url][/QUOTE] does this fucking nitwit know a single worthwhile thing about his job [QUOTE]The Brexit leader, who is the favourite to succeed David Cameron as prime minister, claimed that Britain would remain a member of the EU’s single market while introducing a points-based immigration system to limit the right of EU citizens to work in Britain. British people would still be able to live, travel, study and buy homes on the continent but the same rights would not be automatically extended to EU citizens in the UK, he wrote.[/QUOTE] "okay how about you just give me everything i want with nothing in exchange does that sound okay 2 u? man im the best at negotimatating"
Because all of the things Boris Johnson has said so far have come true...
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;50604840]EU have told Boris to fuck right off. [url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/brussels-rejects-boris-johnson-pipe-dream-over-single-market-access[/url][/QUOTE] Seriously, this could be the blunder of the century and we're not even a quarter of the way through it. Unless Trump takes that title, that is ..
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50604458]so they needed to control the damage caused by the decision they've been promoting for months? kinda suggests that maybe that decision wasn't a good one in the first place.[/QUOTE] Na, the damage control speeches were basically waiting. There was going to be an immediate negative impact because of speculation, that's what happens when there is uncertainty ahead, so it was to reaffirm to the traders that normal life is carrying on and that it is business per usual.
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;50604987]Seriously, this could be the blunder of the century and we're not even a quarter of the way through it. Unless Trump takes that title, that is ..[/QUOTE] Don't try to pass the Blunder buck to the US, you guys really fucked up
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605007]Na, the damage control speeches were basically waiting. There was going to be an immediate negative impact because of speculation, that's what happens when there is uncertainty ahead, so it was to reaffirm to the traders that normal life is carrying on and that it is business per usual.[/QUOTE] Except it's only getting worse.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50605044]Except it's only getting worse.[/QUOTE] Somehow people think the market is going to magically fix itself in 2 working days. It's been clear there will be destabilization for period.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605062]Somehow people think the market is going to magically fix itself in 2 working days. It's been clear there will be destabilization for period.[/QUOTE] Its going to be a long period of destabilization. There Economy is essentially useless if they leave the EU and EEA and until either the UK can start shitting money or get back into the EEA/EU there fucked.
Here may come a silly question but so if the market stabilizes, does that mean the UK makes up for the money they've lost so far?
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;50605087]Its going to be a long period of destabilization. There Economy is essentially useless if they leave the EU and EEA and until either the UK can start shitting money or get back into the EEA/EU there fucked.[/QUOTE] Short term destabilization, long term uncertainty, as said by Cameron. Until Article 50 is invoked, its business as usual, so it will be still quite a while away, which means no immediate changes which does mean short term destabilization. [QUOTE=MrJazzy;50605101]Here may come a silly question but so if the market stabilizes, does that mean the UK makes up for the money they've lost so far?[/QUOTE] Overtime they will get back what they lost, the currency will probably heal faster than the companies.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605062]Somehow people think the market is going to magically fix itself in 2 working days. It's been clear there will be destabilization for period.[/QUOTE] Calling it a "destabilizaiton" is an understatement, the damage done has ruined decades of work and it's still going to be another few before it's normalized but it's not just the economy, the EU has the upper hand over the UK, english politicians are either resigning, against each other or don't know what to do and Scotland is pushing for a referendum of their own to leave the UK. This isn't a roller coaster ride, this is a HUGE earthquake that completely changes the landscape of Europe and the world.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605062]Somehow people think the market is going to magically fix itself in 2 working days. It's been clear there will be destabilization for period.[/QUOTE] You've heard the economic expert guys, in fact he is the first to apply for this: [url]http://newsthump.com/2016/06/20/experts-to-be-replaced-with-angry-man-from-down-the-pub/[/url]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50605113]Calling it a "destabilizaiton" is an understatement, the damage done has ruined decades of work and it's still going to be another few before it's normalized but it's not just the economy, the EU has the upper hand over the UK, english politicians are either resigning, against each other or don't know what to do and Scotland is pushing for a referendum of their own to leave the UK. This isn't a roller coaster ride, this is a HUGE earthquake that completely changes the landscape of Europe and the world.[/QUOTE] Destabilization, in a good sense is like when you see an earthquake happen, and the lines go up and down really fast, that is what this is, basically up and down and eventually leveling out(not fully, due to how the market works, with daily trades etc). While the EU have the upper hand, they have taken a massive hit themselves with one of their main banks taking a massive hit that some are thinking a bailout might be coming if it crashes soon. On both sides, there is pressure to stabilize the markets overall. This doesn't solely affect the UK, the EU is massively affected, its not a one sided thing. The politicians are trying to reassign themselves as suddenly the two main parties just found themselves voted against in a referendum meaning half the electorate does not agree with them. Scotland probably won't get a referendum, if they did, and they left, theres no actual proof that the EU would even pick them up because overall they can seen as just another country to be deadweight to the EU. Without the UK attached, I don't see what they even bring to the table. But you are right, this isn't a roller coaster ride, but yes, there will be changes, and the UK will be leaving the EU. But we aren't finished, Article 50 will be an interesting time for the market when it comes around.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605103]Overtime they will get back what they lost, the currency will probably heal faster than the companies.[/QUOTE] How will they get it back? I don't really know much about how international economy works.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605165]Destabilization, in a good sense is like when you see an earthquake happen, and the lines go up and down really fast, that is what this is, basically up and down and eventually leveling out(not fully, due to how the market works, with daily trades etc). [/QUOTE] Are you shitting me you just compared this to a massive natural disaster to illustrate that everything will be fine [editline]27th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Boilrig;50605165] Scotland probably won't get a referendum, if they did, and they left, theres no actual proof that the EU would even pick them up because overall they can seen as just another country to be deadweight to the EU. Without the UK attached, I don't see what they even bring to the table. [/QUOTE] god you are so uninformed about basically everything that you don't even know that Scottland has 90% of britains oil reserves maaaaaan you are annoying
“You cannot have your cake and eat it,” that is becoming the unofficial slogan of everyone who is telling leave to fuck off
[QUOTE=Killuah;50605188]Are you shitting me you just compared this to a massive natural disaster to illustrate that everything will be fine[/QUOTE] You do know an earthquake actually stops right? [QUOTE=Killuah;50605188]god you are so uninformed about basically everything that you don't even know that Scottland has 90% of britains oil reserves maaaaaan you are annoying[/QUOTE] I mean, thats if oil was actually worth something. It is lucky tbh, but overall meh.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605198]I mean, thats if oil was actually worth something.[/QUOTE] To be this ignorant must be a blessing, it's useless arguing with you.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605198]You do know an earthquake actually stops right? [/QUOTE] How are you not getting this
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662030/Cognac-breakfast-Nazi-father-law-secret-dark-discussions-Europe-s-leaders-Meet-Jean-Claude-Juncker-Eurocrat-blamed-Brexit-trying-force-Britain-out.html[/url] if you want to have a laugh, here's an article about the daily mail suddenly getting cold feet over brexit "juncker is forcing us out too early ;_; HE'S A SECRET NAZI!!!"
[QUOTE=Killuah;50605218]How are you not getting this[/QUOTE] I don't even know what you are on about half of the time tbh, you have been like this for most threads and watching you is pure entertainment. Your post up there was just great.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605244]I don't even know what you are on about half of the time tbh[/QUOTE] Probably because you aren't very knowledgeable of it.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605198]You do know an earthquake actually stops right?[/QUOTE] yeah man didn't you know after an earthquake everything just goes back to the way it was lol
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;50605249]yeah man didn't you know after an earthquake everything just goes back to the way it was lol[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Boilrig;50605103]Overtime they will get back what they lost, the currency will probably heal faster than the companies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50601474]Boris Johnson kinda did admitted this was a PR stunt, they were never supposed to leave, and it Backfired on him horribly.[/QUOTE] Source?
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605198]You do know an earthquake actually stops right?[/QUOTE] To be fair the International community usually sends aid afterwards and the area takes years to recover but in this earthquake scenario the UK Lynched the aid workers and put up a big sign saying "Aid workers out".
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605244]I don't even know what you are on about half of the time tbh, you have been like this for most threads and watching you is pure entertainment. Your post up there was just great.[/QUOTE] The only entertainment here is you, considering you've been told that pretty much every academic and scholarly source possible says that Brexit will have very long term GDP and UK quality of living consequences. Not this "they let it stabilize for a few months then invoke article 50" No, dude, even if that happens ([B]​it won't) [/B]they're now negotiating for trade deals from a [B]worse[/B] position than the UK was in before. There is [B]NOTHING[/B] good about Brexit, how many times do I have to prove this to you (only for you to completely ignore everything of course)
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605258][/QUOTE] But all the buildings have collapsed and people are dead. That's what he's getting at. Sure, the ground is in the same place but everything on top of it is fucked.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50605258]Overtime they will get back what they lost[/QUOTE] And how long is that gunna take? 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? [B]100 years?[/B] Am I gunna be retired by the time this country finally picks itself out of the sewage, having worked back-breaking hours for meagre money? Because if history has taught us anything, economic crashes rarely work out well for the common people.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;50605291]The only entertainment here is you, [/QUOTE] RIP. [QUOTE=EcksDee;50605291] considering you've been told that pretty much every academic and scholarly source possible says that Brexit will have very long term GDP and UK quality of living consequences. [/QUOTE] I don't think I've denied long term GDP damage. And haven't made a comment on quality of living. Halp ??? [QUOTE=EcksDee;50605291] Not this "they let it stabilize for a few months then invoke article 50" [/QUOTE] Jumping ahead with that now would only make thing worse. When Article 50 is invoked, that itself will also cause another hit to the market. The more time until Article 50, the better for the market overall. [QUOTE=EcksDee;50605291] No, dude, even if they do that they're now negotiating for trade deals from a [B]worse[/B] position than the UK was in before. [/QUOTE] Yep, though mostly just for the EU. [QUOTE=EcksDee;50605291] There is [B]NOTHING[/B] good about Brexit, how many times do I have to prove this to you (only for you to completely ignore everything of course)[/QUOTE] [B]OK[/B], but here we are, regardless of how bad or good this is.
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