• Samus Aran isn't Trans. Deal with it.
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Unless she was trans from a very very young age, this is incorrect. There are a few childhood flashbacks in Zero Mission and Fusion has additional art that shows a young, female Samus. To me it seems like Wu is just a very unstable human in general who is desperately seeking representation in her favorite form of media, and rather than seeking out well-written trans characters (which do exist but are harder to find), she's slapping the label on random characters from well-known games and demanding that everyone else recognize her headcanon as well. I feel sorry for her to a certain extent, at least in this regard. We wouldn't be having this problem if people were writing popular trans characters to begin with. It also doesn't help that video games are fundamentally different from movies in that companies have been using the same series and characters with only minor universe expansion since the mid 80's, it's not like the movie industry where there's only a few sequels before they drop the series for a couple of decades. In video games there's hardly any new iconic characters, so she's relying on the beloved characters of yesteryear, which is obviously going to upset a lot of people.
[QUOTE=mn_chaos;48633773]How did Samus Aran being trans start as a thing anyway? Doesn't it make jack shit difference in the end anyway? As a character she's meant to be a battle hardened bounty hunter.[/QUOTE] In the manga she is half chozo but they call her a newhalf, which in Japanese I think someone said its the same term used to describe trans people. But the manga is way old and has no context to the trans movement.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;48632048]so...they are because she says and that's that? fuckin lol[/QUOTE] Peter Pan is a homosexual because i said so
Literally the only character on her list that is, at some point, transgender, is Poison. And even then in SF4 (don't know much about the other fighting games she has appeared in since) they completely removed that concept, at least in the West they did. Also, the Vivian thing was removed in the Western release as well if I recall correctly. What I find amusing is how says she "doesn't want the only trans character treated with dignity is Vivian" but how exactly is Poison treated with dignity? Literally the only reason for her being trans in the beginning is because "hitting women is rude" which is ignorant inequality in itself, something trans people fight against.
Can we start using archive links when linking to The Mary Sue and things of the sort? The whole reason things like this blew up in the first place is because shitty clickbait is profitable.
This whole business is one huge joke, better yet are when people use sexist arguments like "shes too tall or too strong! She must be trans!" Radicals that spout this nonsense always have this ironic sort of sexism that this whole charade has exposed in some.
[QUOTE=dvc;48634005]the thing is, if someone does try to make a game with relatable trans characters, they are going to get backlash from the GG crowd no matter what because they're 'pandering to sjws'.[/QUOTE]Where'd this delusion come from?
[QUOTE=dvc;48634005]the thing is, if someone does try to make a game with relatable trans characters, they are going to get backlash from the GG crowd no matter what because they're 'pandering to sjws'.[/QUOTE] Well really they're going to get hate from both sides, because if game creators put in actually well thought out trans characters, not only they might get hate from the GG crowd as you suggest, they'd get hate from the SJW crowd because the fact that they are transsexual isn't the main thing about their character.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48635067]Where'd this delusion come from?[/QUOTE] It's based on the assumption that any trans character will be overly sympathetic and/or the trans part of their character will be shoehorned in for social justice points. Any well-rounded, three-dimensional character will stand on its own and not be transparently pandering to any group of people.
[QUOTE=dvc;48634005]the thing is, if someone does try to make a game with relatable trans characters, they are going to get backlash from the GG crowd no matter what because they're 'pandering to sjws'.[/QUOTE] Hardly, there is a difference between having a trans-gendered character for an improved story and having a trans-gendered character so you can meet some arbitrary standard of progressiveness. Creating fundamentally badly designed characters to sate that progressive narrative is indeed a good way to garner the ire of GG, or really anyone who plays video games.
[QUOTE=J!NX;48634316]Peter Pan is a homosexual because i said so[/QUOTE] Those tights are glittery and pretty tight, and he does have excessive hip rhythm for a white boy
[QUOTE=Lolkork;48633104]Isn't poison trans just because the the developers thought it would be less controversial if the players beat up a 'man' instead of a woman.[/QUOTE] This probably wouldn't have stopped feminist groups from suing the developers or whatever back then, but it probably would have made more sense if they had made Poison as beefy as some of the other enemies in the game so that she at least wouldn't appear as vulnerable (Not that I think that she's vulnerable as she is. I just figured that it may or may not be less of a problem to said feminists if her strength was made more obvious). Although, I guess the developers wanted to keep her design the way it was, so I don't know. I guess they could have also included some skinny male enemies and bulky female enemies to balance it out or some shit.
So, the reason Samus is a strong, capable character is that she was born a man? I find that demeaning towards women :v:
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