• U.S. pledges full support towards the young nation of South Sudan
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[QUOTE=amute;31005768]I love how history has proven you denying it so wrong it hurts. [editline]9th July 2011[/editline] Except the US doesn't need more foreign oil or military bases, so your argument pretty much falls flat on its fucking face when faced with the fact the US institgats shit it shouldn't and can easily avoid.[/QUOTE] You use the most douchey language when arguing...christ youre a wanker.
[QUOTE=Ziron;31024314]so who's gonna support north sudan. i know i will, but we need a state or two to back them up.[/QUOTE] The Soviets will back them up.
[QUOTE=RBM11;31016751]East Timor[/QUOTE] I actually tought they were disputed by some countries. Turns out I was wrong.
[QUOTE=Pace.;31024356]You use the most douchey language when arguing...christ youre a wanker.[/QUOTE] And you're Australian. See I can make useless insults too.
The US has already been giving "full support" for the government of South Sudan ever since it began its war against Khartoum as the SPLA. Weaponry and other supplies were secured to SPLA via Kenya by the US and its independence is what Washington had desired. This was ramped up significantly under the Bush Administration and Obama carried it to completion. The US will naturally continue supporting it- it won't abandon its investment after all, considering how long it was ensuring the SPLA would be successful in its goal. To make sure that investment is not endangered though it needs to build up its infrastructure and public services where this money is being advertised as going to. However considering the way that these things worked- or at least how we saw it happen in Iraq- much of it might get squandered by corrupt officials and ultimately the "aid" will be focused more on delivery for the natural gas and oil that is still reliant on the existing pipelines that go through Sudan to Red Sea ports. The intent is to eventually make infrastructure that delivers the goods southwards through Kenya and ports over there. Long story short the people of South Sudan probably won't see any benefit from it.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Salva_Kiir_Mayardit.jpg/220px-Salva_Kiir_Mayardit.jpg[/img] all this guy needs is a cigar
This thread is getting boring, time to mix things up. [b][u]IN SUDAN, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa#Northern_Africa]HOMOSEXUALITY IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH[/url][/u][/b] Should do it
[QUOTE=smurfy;31027028]This thread is getting boring, time to mix things up. [B][U]IN SUDAN, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa#Northern_Africa"]HOMOSEXUALITY IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH[/URL][/U][/B] Should do it[/QUOTE] lol, welcome to Africa
[QUOTE=smurfy;31027028]This thread is getting boring, time to mix things up. [B][U]IN SUDAN, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa#Northern_Africa"]HOMOSEXUALITY IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH[/URL][/U][/B] Should do it[/QUOTE] It's an african country, ofcourse it's backwards.
Russia supports South Ossetia splitting off from Georgia = Ahh those Russkies are nice guys America supports South Sudan splitting off from Sudan = Hmm those damn Americans want oil! Ahh, Facepunch.
Who the fuck mentioned Ossetia? [editline]10th July 2011[/editline] Are you THAT much of a shithead?
I'm just pointing out how Facepunch seems to have no trust whatsoever for the entire country of America because they don't like some of it's politics.
That is an absolutely ridiculous comparison.
South Sudan has all the oil, of course it's in the US's interest (and that of other countries) to recognize them.
[QUOTE=Ridge;31029771]Russia supports South Ossetia splitting off from Georgia = Ahh those Russkies are nice guys America supports South Sudan splitting off from Sudan = Hmm those damn Americans want oil! Ahh, Facepunch.[/QUOTE] Diplomatic relations and military intervention are two wholly different things. Most of the people who are attacking the US in this thread just have some strange need to hate the US.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31031849]I disagree. And I dont think anyone "hates" the US the way you describe it. Because the US, like any other country has its flaws and its advantages, it contributed a lot in terms of scientific progress, technology, laws, philosophy, medicine, literature, entertainment, industrialism, etc since its foundation. But you mustn't forget its flaws, which include escalating several wars to epic proportions that otherwise could have been easily avoided by simply not interfering, military suppression of North American and African countries and self proclaiming themselves as world police, among alot of state issues like massive debts, arrogance of politicians and in some cases also corruption, shortage of experienced police forces personnel, massive murder rates, massive child pregnancy rates, pretty shitty distribution of wealth, and god knows the list goes on. These are not small flaws that can be overshadowed by America's good deeds. Naturally, there will be people who would be pissed off by all of these things. Not everyone hates the US for the sake of jumping on the bandwagon as you probably imagine.[/QUOTE] No I don't think like that. Its just that I've met a lot of people who jump on that bandwagon of hate, and it pisses me off. The reasons you listed to dislike the US are legitimate, but quite a few people don't mention those, nor do they mention the good things.
[QUOTE=Earthen;31051998]No I don't think like that. Its just that I've met a lot of people who jump on that bandwagon of hate, and it pisses me off. The reasons you listed to dislike the US are legitimate, but quite a few people don't mention those, nor do they mention the good things.[/QUOTE] It's not very tangible to go "I dislike American foreign policy, but me list every single good thing to ever come out of the country."
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