Toonami partnering with Production IG to produce sequel to Fooly Cooly
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The Pillows was the best.
[video=youtube;h9COHyaFMU8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9COHyaFMU8[/video]
[QUOTE=27X;50000566]Which is exactly why Cartoon Network made a sequel.
Finish Metalocalypse? Nah.
Let's have flcl sequel with none of the cast and add a talking robot.[/QUOTE]
Don't you even remind me of how AS shafted Brendon Small and Metalocalypse...
Seriously AS/Toonami, I love you and all, but instead of making additions no one wants to a much beloved series (FLCL), why not put more effort into a beloved series that everyone wants a great end to (Metalocalypse).
Kinda sad to see the new season probably wont have much of Naota in it. I've always been curious to see how the character progressed years after all that crazy shit.
If I.G. even remotely understand the original FLCL, then the standard anime style factors are probably a cover for a batshit insane plot that will deconstruct and perhaps reconstruct modern anime tropes left and right viciously with a shit-eating grin.
Then again I have no idea what I.G.'s been up to lately to judge.
Who knows? Maybe it's another mini like the original? Maybe it'll be good. Like what Mister Sandman said, it's not like it's gonna ruin FLCL forever if it does turn out bad. Don't be like the Transformers fandom and be pessimistic on every single little change.
Wow I literally just got done watching FLCL, then I come onto SH to find this.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fygutp-zA4E[/media]
Cannot fucking wait. FLCL was a fantastic anime, with such great humor.
ehhh I'm a huge huge fan of FLCL, but it was such a high point in the history of anime, I'm afraid of what they're gonna do. Anime and Manga has such a tendency to beat an IP into the ground, just because merch sells so well for those series. I'm of the mindset that you can get too much of a good thing, and I personally think FLCL would be better off left exactly where it is.
Plus, the story line is so incoherent that it's not really something that warrants a sequel; I'm similarly afraid that because of the tendency of anime producers to over-produce their shows that they're going to fundamentally change the nature of the show to be something more linear. It would be as if they took excel saga and made it into a multi-season decade-long franchise, when it was meant to be a bit artsy and an examination of the different genres of anime. I think FLCL, similarly, is meant to be exactly what it is; no more, no less.
But I can't pass judgment before I know anything about it, I just know that 90% of the anime industry is terrible and tasteless, and when they finally do something right, they're very eager to ruin it with frivolous marketing.
I think the same way about Ghost in the Shell. I personally think that the 1st volume and the 1st movie was enough, and they should have moved on to more original pursuits.
I guess the best way to sum it up would be: imagine if they decided that blade runner, a masterpiece film, would be better off as a long-running IP with several movies, merchandising, a comic book, a tv show, etc., but they didn't spend quite a lot of money on actual storytelling. The goal for the anime industry is often not to write a good story, but to write a story that never ends, like in Dragon Ball, where they spend several episodes talking shit to the bad guy and going into flash backs and side stories without actually ever fighting the enemy. Similar thing for Naruto and One Piece. The "this isn't even my final form" trope was deliberately constructed as a way to make a franchise span a decade worth of merchandising.
I think, overall, media should be more like Pixar; they mostly prefer to make original IPs rather than sequels to older ones. There are, of course, exceptions, like Toy Story or Finding Nemo, but in every case with Pixar, it always feels like the story came first, and the merchandising came second (and boy does it!)
Anyways, that about sums up my thoughts on it. I like Anime as a medium, but like all mediums, most material produced in it is a fast, stupid, vapid cash grab. Unfortunately, those cash grabs are often what gets picked up for more and more seasons.
[editline]24th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=27X;50000566]Which is exactly why Cartoon Network made a sequel.
Finish Metalocalypse? Nah.
Let's have flcl sequel with none of the cast and add a talking robot.[/QUOTE]
Metalocalypse is Adult Swim, not CN
The story to FLCL wasn't as confusing as everyone makes it out to be. There's a lot of nonsensical and batshit stuff, and that's just the nature of the beast considering it was literally made 'for fun' after End of Evangelion burnt the crew out, but the entire story was a coming of age kind of thing. It was only slightly deeper than the surface, but all things considered it didn't really set out to be some ultra deep "analyze every single thing" kind of plot like Evangelion, that's for sure.
I don't mind a sequel, especially since I.G. has ties to the original production of FLCL and helped animate it. The big question is how much of the original staff they can get back alongside whether or not Gainax (or Studio Trigger, i'm not sure where all the original staff went honestly) would lend a hand again, and whether it'd be a worthy sequel or not. But i'll give it a chance out of interest.
I mean, there's no way in hell this could be as utterly atrocious an attempted series continuation as something like Eureka Seven Ao was, hopefully.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;50001307]The story to FLCL wasn't as confusing as everyone makes it out to be. There's a lot of nonsensical and batshit stuff, and that's just the nature of the beast considering it was literally made 'for fun' after End of Evangelion burnt the crew out, but the entire story was a coming of age kind of thing. It was only slightly deeper than the surface, but all things considered it didn't really set out to be some ultra deep "analyze every single thing" kind of plot like Evangelion, that's for sure.
I don't mind a sequel, especially since I.G. has ties to the original production of FLCL and helped animate it. The big question is how much of the original staff they can get back alongside whether or not Gainax (or Studio Trigger, i'm not sure where all the original staff went honestly) would lend a hand again, and whether it'd be a worthy sequel or not. But i'll give it a chance out of interest.
I mean, there's no way in hell this could be as utterly atrocious an attempted series continuation as something like Eureka Seven Ao was, hopefully.[/QUOTE]
I think that FLCL is like a more subtle version of Excel Saga, where each episode plays on anime tropes, to the point of one scene in I think the first or second episode that has the characters sitting in some room talking about the "filming" of the scene that was playing at the time, breaking the 4th wall as if they were voice actors. Because of that, I don't think that the overall plot of the anime was as important as the framing of each smaller and smaller segment of the anime, like the scene or each individual episode. There was not really an underlying narrative that helped you understand the progression of events, though they do make one up as they go along. By the last episode, you sort of think "ok so I think I get it", but in reality there's nothing to get. It's got some beautiful scenes in it like the last fight scene in the series where Naota tells Haruko he loves her. The anime is more artistic than anything else, and each piece of it has a unique flavor such that it's a very hard to describe Anime.
The manga takes a similar direction, but feels a lot more melancholy. All the characters are depressing, there's little excitement, and the art style is course and black. It's far more disjointed than the Anime, and you can go from one page to another without understanding the connection between the two frames. Artistically (and by that I mean the visuals), it's very appealing, but it's not the same level of art as the Anime, I think.
I swear to God, if this gonna get ruined by 'acceptable humor' and political correctness I will flip out
[QUOTE=maniacykt;50001416]I swear to God, if this gonna get ruined by 'acceptable humor' and political correctness I will flip out[/QUOTE]
Well that's another thing. This is being sponsored by toonami, the anime section of cartoon network, a children's network. I watched flcl for the first time on adult swim, and it had lots of overly sexual tones, upskirts, etc. I know that CN is a lot more adult nowadays, but I can't imagine it's THAT adult
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50001478]Well that's another thing. This is being sponsored by toonami, the anime section of cartoon network, a children's network. I watched flcl for the first time on adult swim, and it had lots of overly sexual tones, upskirts, etc. I know that CN is a lot more adult nowadays, but I can't imagine it's THAT adult[/QUOTE]
Toonami is part of Adult Swim right now, airing on Saturdays like they used to. This means they can show uncensored Dragon Ball Z Kai, among other series. Infact they're nearing the end of Parasyte, which has lots of violence like impalement, ripping a heart out, decapitation, and other factors, not to mention [sp]last weekend ended on a not-outright-explicit-but-still-blatant sex scene.[/sp] And they're currently airing Dimension W, which has metric tons of fanservice for the female lead, [i]and[/i] airing Kill la Kill for the second time too, albeit near the end of that one as well.
So you shouldn't really worry about that part at least.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50001478]Well that's another thing. This is being sponsored by toonami, the anime section of cartoon network, a children's network. I watched flcl for the first time on adult swim, and it had lots of overly sexual tones, upskirts, etc. I know that CN is a lot more adult nowadays, but I can't imagine it's THAT adult[/QUOTE]
Toonami now is not the same Toonami 10 years ago, at least during daylight hours. It's wrapped under adult swim, so it shows plenty of MA content (just like it did 10 years ago at night, when it would show uncensored versions of gundam wing and such).
I don't think is a good idea. Although the staff working on it have made some pretty good shit. It gives me a little hope at least.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50001281]ehhh I'm a huge huge fan of FLCL, but it was such a high point in the history of anime, I'm afraid of what they're gonna do. Anime and Manga has such a tendency to beat an IP into the ground, just because merch sells so well for those series. I'm of the mindset that you can get too much of a good thing, and I personally think FLCL would be better off left exactly where it is.
Plus, the story line is so incoherent that it's not really something that warrants a sequel; I'm similarly afraid that because of the tendency of anime producers to over-produce their shows that they're going to fundamentally change the nature of the show to be something more linear. It would be as if they took excel saga and made it into a multi-season decade-long franchise, when it was meant to be a bit artsy and an examination of the different genres of anime. I think FLCL, similarly, is meant to be exactly what it is; no more, no less.
But I can't pass judgment before I know anything about it, I just know that 90% of the anime industry is terrible and tasteless, and when they finally do something right, they're very eager to ruin it with frivolous marketing.
I think the same way about Ghost in the Shell. I personally think that the 1st volume and the 1st movie was enough, and they should have moved on to more original pursuits.
I guess the best way to sum it up would be: imagine if they decided that blade runner, a masterpiece film, would be better off as a long-running IP with several movies, merchandising, a comic book, a tv show, etc., but they didn't spend quite a lot of money on actual storytelling. The goal for the anime industry is often not to write a good story, but to write a story that never ends, like in Dragon Ball, where they spend several episodes talking shit to the bad guy and going into flash backs and side stories without actually ever fighting the enemy. Similar thing for Naruto and One Piece. The "this isn't even my final form" trope was deliberately constructed as a way to make a franchise span a decade worth of merchandising.
I think, overall, media should be more like Pixar; they mostly prefer to make original IPs rather than sequels to older ones. There are, of course, exceptions, like Toy Story or Finding Nemo, but in every case with Pixar, it always feels like the story came first, and the merchandising came second (and boy does it!)
Anyways, that about sums up my thoughts on it. I like Anime as a medium, but like all mediums, most material produced in it is a fast, stupid, vapid cash grab. Unfortunately, those cash grabs are often what gets picked up for more and more seasons.
[editline]24th March 2016[/editline]
Metalocalypse is Adult Swim, not CN[/QUOTE]
Parent company. Adult Swim isn't some kind of mystery arm of CN, they literally work in the same building. Regardless, they've canned at least three popular series with solid ratings and instead decided to bring back a cult series which didn't need a sequel. Not much sense being made.
I.G. has done Dead Leaves which surprised me when I found it was not by Gainax(It was still done by a guy who worked a ton with Gainax though)
[QUOTE=Tureis;50000447]I don't have high hopes for this. All I can remember is how disappointing Big O season 2 was.[/QUOTE]
Was thinking the same thing
But here's hoping it turns out somewhat decent
[QUOTE=Matrix374;50002176]I.G. has done Dead Leaves which surprised me when I found it was not by Gainax(It was still done by a guy who worked a ton with Gainax though)[/QUOTE]
Gainax mained FLCL but I.G. was involved and helped animate too, apparently. The question is how much of the team has experience with or know FLCL.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;50002645]Gainax mained FLCL but I.G. was involved and helped animate too, apparently. The question is how much of the team has experience with or know FLCL.[/QUOTE]
It isn't about how good they are at animating, it's about whether or not they understand the material.
Gainax was such a fucking crazy group of ridiculously talented people. FLCL was a reflection of that.
Even if the team at I.G. is ridiculously talented, I don't think they can emulate the craziness of Gainax. It'd be like James Cameron trying to make a sequel to Videodrome.
I mean, they could just bring on all the crazy motherfuckers who made FLCL and let them go hog wild. I don't think it's likely, but maybe it's possible.
So
Season 1: Adjusting to boyhood
Season 2: Adjusting to manhood
Season 3: Adjusting to dDDEEEEAAAATH
why are people complaining it doesn't need more content because it was somehow perfect and wrapped up
the raw randomness and billions of loose ends lend very well to more content, but hopefully [beyond "understanding the content"] they make sure it hits good notes with how FLCL has aged. Don't forget that part of the reason people loved FLCL back in the day was because that was literally the internet/anime culture of the time, random XD nonsense. Sure it takes a special kinda team to make *does backflip off a robot into sick guitar solo and gets a home run, revealing me to be king of the universe* into a legitimate action sequence, but how well would that have translated if released exactly that way right now?
I'm hopeful but I know it's going to be a disappointment explicitly due to the layers of nostalgia goggles people are strapping on in anticipation to critique the ever living hell out of why it isn't the original.
[QUOTE=dai;50004556]why are people complaining it doesn't need more content because it was somehow perfect and wrapped up
the raw randomness and billions of loose ends lend very well to more content, but hopefully [beyond "understanding the content"] they make sure it hits good notes with how FLCL has aged. Don't forget that part of the reason people loved FLCL back in the day was because that was literally the internet/anime culture of the time, random XD nonsense. Sure it takes a special kinda team to make *does backflip off a robot into sick guitar solo and gets a home run, revealing me to be king of the universe* into a legitimate action sequence, but how well would that have translated if released exactly that way right now?
I'm hopeful but I know it's going to be a disappointment explicitly due to the layers of nostalgia goggles people are strapping on in anticipation to critique the ever living hell out of why it isn't the original.[/QUOTE]
I really, really disagree that FLCL was just a product of it's time. I think it's very clearly the product of the people who made it.
Trigger is as close as you get to what Gainax was in terms of both staff and mentality and they still make the same kind of fun crazy shit. The only difference is that they don't have infinite Evangelion money.
Maybe the new FLCL will be good, but I doubt it will be anything like the original. It's just leeching off the brand at that point.
I have mixed feelings about this. FLCL is amazing, but I can only hope that this new season is at least half as good as the original.
Also it kinda amazes me that after all these years they're making a sequel instead of just doing their own take of the original 6 episodes story. That would have neat to see.
[I]nothing ever happens here[/I]
Interesting, but I've never really heard much demand for a FLCL sequel or continuation. Seemed to be one of those trips you enjoy a couple times and you're cool with how weird it was. Takes a few times to get the story together, but still. Ah well. Maybe it's a preemptive April Fools?
still think this is an april fools joke
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